Poll of the Day > Uh... I guess youtube figured out how to force ads through?

(+) Yeah! (+)

And they're running ads for World of Warcraft private servers, which are illegal to run.

ya, youtube is always giving me adult content ads... which I report, to youtube :p

I have been getting a lot of SNHU ads recently for some reason, also been getting a lot of temu for well over a year

I figured out how to avoid the ads, but I'm scared to share my secrets in case YouTube catches on.

I haven't seen any yet, but they tend to roll these measures out to only a small group of people to delay the development of countermeasures.

I dont understand why they try to fight people who know how to use adblockers, it must cost a lot in money and resources and is a losing battle

They should stick to giving ads to normie users

Damn_Underscore posted...

I dont understand why they try to fight people who know how to use adblockers, it must cost a lot in money and resources and is a losing battle

They should stick to giving ads to normie users

I expect most of it is just showing off to shareholders, making a pretense of doing something about all of this hypothetical money that's being left on the table if they don't fight back (never mind that if they do succeed, users that are currently blocking will almost never click ads and they'll therefore be tanking their click-through rate) so they can blame that "loss" on somebody else instead of eroding shareholder faith in them.

My number of youtube ads have exploded recently. Did they change something with their advertisements?

They got a lot more aggressive with their ads around the time they started fighting back against adblocking, which also corresponded with pushing Premium a lot more aggressively. I expect it's mostly just them trying to push Premium by offering it as a solution to a problem they created.

It's buried, and apparently not many people are getting it since it's really hard to find info about it but it seems like Youtube has started putting ads directly into videos which is why they're not getting blocked and why there is such a long delay. And they are blasting me with stuff about youtube premium which is now seeming like a good idea because 2+ minutes of ads every few minutes is getting rough to handle.

Literally just dropped an unskippable 5 minute ad on me wtf.

I expect some sort of countermeasure will be developed within a day or two. Short of actually baking the ad directly into the video so it's completely indistinguishable from the content you're looking for, there's going to be *some* extra reference that a blocker can target and intercept, and while that's an option, it's not an option that lets them run multiple different ads on the same video or target ads to the user, and both of those are a much greater loss of potential revenue than adblocking.

BlackScythe0 posted...

And they're running ads for World of Warcraft private servers, which are illegal to run.

Since when has anybody been arrested for running a private server?

Do you really think that's a hill worth dying on?

adjl posted...

Do you really think that's a hill worth dying on?

Yes.

Revelation34 posted...

Since when has anybody been arrested for running a private server?

do you think private servers like nostalrus respond to cease and desist orders by shutting down the servers out of the goodness of their hearts

Revelation34 posted...

Yes.

It's not, it's ignorant and you know it is because all you do is make nonsense posts. They're a violation of copyrights but hard to enforce since many of the servers are kept out of countries where Blizzard can do anything about it. You surely must know this, and you must also surely know I'm more shocked that google is hosting advertisements for blatant violations of copyright law and not whether or not they "should" be illegal or not

bUt ThAt'S nOt A cRiMiNaL cHaRgE!

BlackScythe0 posted...

It's not, it's ignorant and you know it is because all you do is make nonsense posts. They're a violation of copyrights but hard to enforce since many of the servers are kept out of countries where Blizzard can do anything about it. You surely must know this, and you must also surely know I'm more shocked that google is hosting advertisements for blatant violations of copyright law and not whether or not they "should" be illegal or not

No they're not unless the people are also running pirated copies of the games. Servers themselves are not illegal.

Revelation34 posted...

No they're not unless the people are also running pirated copies of the games. Servers themselves are not illegal.

I don't know whats wrong with you. They're not allowed to use Blizzard IP for commercial purposes. There is not catch or tricks to it. Why are you arguing nonsense in a thread about ads?

They keep giving me French ads.
I don't understand how the company that knows literally everything about me doesn't know I don't speak French?

I don't want to report the ad to Google, I want to report to the advertiser so they know how Google is robbing them of their money and showing their ad to people that don't even speak the language.
This is basic stuff and Google can't figure it out? Why are advertisers giving YouTube any money at all?

BlackScythe0 posted...

And they are blasting me with stuff about youtube premium which is now seeming like a good idea because 2+ minutes of ads every few minutes is getting rough to handle.

Don't reward their shitty practices. Buying premium only tells them to keep doing this, and eventually Premium gets nerfed to only block some ads, with Premium Plus being the new (and more expensive) option being the no ad choice.

Out of curiosity, what browser and adblocker are you using?

adjl posted...

Short of actually baking the ad directly into the video so it's completely indistinguishable from the content you're looking for

I honestly doubt they would ever do that because people would just fast forward past the ad. That is usually what I do with sponsorship spots.

Dikitain posted...

I honestly doubt they would ever do that because people would just fast forward past the ad. That is usually what I do with sponsorship spots.

Unless they update their player to allow them to disable video controls between certain timestamps, which is not outside the realm of possibility. But yeah, I doubt they'd do that because customizing ads and showing a greater variety is so much more valuable than just making sure that each viewer sees an ad no matter what.

no ads for me yet with ublock

My share of YouTube premium is under $4 a month and covers all my music streaming and YouTube watching needs, on both my phone and my tv via Chromecast

life is good

ReturnOfFa posted...

no ads for me yet with ublock

Same.

Clench281 posted...

My share of YouTube premium is under $4 a month and covers all my music streaming and YouTube watching needs, on both my phone and my tv via Chromecast

life is good

My share of ad-free Youtube is $0 per month because Google can go fellate a cactus.

i still have not gotten youtube ads, on brave browser on pc, or smarttube on tv.

Umbreon posted...

Don't reward their shitty practices. Buying premium only tells them to keep doing this, and eventually Premium gets nerfed to only block some ads, with Premium Plus being the new (and more expensive) option being the no ad choice.

Out of curiosity, what browser and adblocker are you using?

Firefox and uBlock Origin.

None for me yet, fingers crossed

BlackScythe0 posted...

Firefox and uBlock Origin.

Oh.

Well fuck. And apparently they're "injecting" ads into the video or something that bypasses that.

Hmm, I don't really have any advice outside of hope the Ublock people find a way around it. This is an arms race.

I pay for YT Premium. It's a sad existence.

Ublock Origins does a great job blocking ads, unless I pause the video for a significant amount of time and come back. Somehow when I do that, Youtube is able to slip in some Ads.

Does Youtube have any actual competitors? Because I don't know that I can do this anymore. Things were "ok" for the last few days but now Youtube is only serving 3:30 or 4:30 minute ads and I'm about to lose my fucking mind. I've refreshed like 20 times now.

have noscript keep doubleclick.net and jnn-pa.googleapis banned

While we're discussing YouTube being shitters, it looks like Speedo's second episode of Punch Punch Forever doesn't show up in search results (just like what happened with the first episode).

Here's the second episode for anyone interested:

https://youtu.be/f5DkKJdJs9Q?si=q0P5sIAMb2kBIctO

Along with the pilot:

https://youtu.be/8ndBoc6R8_A?si=qD_Z4fvC9T3JpdOT

BlackScythe0 posted...

Does Youtube have any actual competitors?

Vimeo and Dailymotion are the only ones I know of off-hand, but calling those "actual competitors" is a bit of a stretch. Youtube's stranglehold on the video hosting market isn't likely to be broken any time soon, unless there's a mass exodus of creators (and even then, the existing content that will remain will keep them going for a long time).

Some of the youtubers I watch have extra stuff on nebula, a paid streaming service.

I haven't heard anything good/bad about it just yet, but, it's got a handful of content every time I look into it, which is nice.

dragon504 posted...

Same.

I haven't had a single ad for the past however many months people have been complaining about it, I don't get it lol.

I think uBlock Origin just figured out how to deal with it. Kinda scary that it took 4 days.

SinisterSlay posted...

They keep giving me French ads.
I don't understand how the company that knows literally everything about me doesn't know I don't speak French?

At work, I get a bunch of ads in Spanish. And I dont speak any. I dont even think I watch videos with Spanish in them. So, not really sure why I keep getting them

BlackScythe0 posted...

I think uBlock Origin just figured out how to deal with it. Kinda scary that it took 4 days.

It likely took Youtube several months to come up with the bypass, and uBlock taking a few days to fix it is mostly just because Youtube only rolled out the change to a small subset of users. In the long run, this is not a fight Youtube can win. The adblocking community is just too strong and dedicated to blocking ads for any one company to be able to defeat them without investing far, far more resources than it's worth (particularly where those trying to block ads are less likely to click them or buy the products even if they are forced to see them). Short of successfully lobbying to make adblocking illegal (which is unlikely to see much success given that the FBI recommends that everybody use an adblocker for security reasons), any gains they see are going to be short-lived.

ReturnOfFa posted...

I haven't had a single ad for the past however many months people have been complaining about it, I don't get it lol.

ublock origin is the hero of the internet