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LeoRavus posted...

This has to be the most overrated game of all time.

No that would be BotW.

LeoRavus posted...

This has to be the most overrated game of all time.

That's every From Software game ever created tho

It's actually The Last of Us, but you didn't hear that from me.

LeoRavus posted...

This has to be the most overrated game of all time. I did play all the way through, but had to use youtube videos a few times because the game tells you nothing. Even using video guides if you don't do everything perfectly in a quest you're on the road to failure.

Overrated literally just means you like it less than most others. Such a dumb term

Also, git gud

The only quest I'd call easy to screw up is Yura's since you need to spot a fairly out of the way summoning sign near Raya Lucaria and you fail it once you reach the mountaintops. Most important quests have a few failsafes where you can skip parts of them without doing any harm.

Yazarogi posted...

and yet I beat every boss solo and without summons. What a shit take

bruuuuuuh you're so gooood broooo. wooooow. I didn't think anyone had done it since the game came out. please have sex with me elden ring master.

just because something doesn't apply to you doesn't make it not true ya fuckin dolt.

When you boot up

ffx has held the most overrated crown for 20 years.

TC, While you can follow where the sites of Grace lead you, I strongly suggest heading south to Weeping Penninsula, it's more level appropriate than Castle Stormveil at early levels.

LeoRavus posted...

This has to be the most overrated game of all time. I did play all the way through, but had to use youtube videos a few times because the game tells you nothing. Even using video guides if you don't do everything perfectly in a quest you're on the road to failure.

Working as planned, glad to hear it.

If you're into soulslike games or love adventuring it's pretty good from the get-go

If you prefer the traditional souls game level design, need extreme signposting, or aren't used to open world style "you shouldn't be here yet" style, it can be a bit of a turn off

Me, I'm over here with my flame art caestus punching some random dragon to death because it got in the way while I was looking for landmarks to loot. It's a good time.

The primary thing, I think, is that actually levelling vigor, levelling in general, substantially changes the game with how stat weights and damage mitigation works. It is an actual noticable difference that people overlook because they lock in to a specific stat load out they might not actually need or they're saving runes for other uses that aren't as effective

LeoRavus posted...

This has to be the most overrated game of all time. I did play all the way through, but had to use youtube videos a few times because the game tells you nothing.

Nothing? Are we playing the same game? The only game easier to navigate is DS3, and that's because it's linear AF rather than conveyance to the player. ER has the graces guide you to the major bosses and milestones and has several characters point you in the right way. Varre straight up tells you to go to Stormveil the moment you leave the tutorial area, although it's literally the first point of interest you see. Once you either beat Margit or simply visit Liurnia/Caelid, you'll get taken to Roundtable Hold where you're straight up told to kill one of the shardbearers, which will be the final boss of that very first castle you see. After that, Gideon straight up tells you where you can find the other shardbearers.

Even if you don't do that, the main bosses are in giant areas that are impossible to miss. Godrick is in a giant castle that you can't miss, Rennala is at Hogwarts that's impossible to miss, Rykard is in a giant volcano, Radahn is in a giant castle that's at the end of a road and Morgott is in a giant castle city. You're handheld through the second half of the game and, once again, explicitly told where to go.

If you don't know where to go, it's because you're simply not paying a tiny amount of attention. The only way things could be easier would be to have a giant arrow at the top of the UI.

Even using video guides if you don't do everything perfectly in a quest you're on the road to failure.

Very few of them are actually missable forever. Even then, most of them are the starts to the quests. Once you're on them, most are pretty hard to fail.

reincarnator07 posted...

Rennala is at Hogwarts that's impossible to miss

I laughed

Yeah, a lot of the major NPC quests have multiple steps that can be missed/skipped without consequence. Most of them also have relatively straightforward instructions (for a FromSoft Souls game).

Edit: I do agree that the open world is questionable. I much prefer the structure of branching paths, which I think Sekiro has executed the best.

Gets good the moment you open the door to Limgrave. Quality dips in the late game with the snowy continent but Haligtree and Farum Azula help make up for it.

KajeI posted...

Unironically, when you git gud.

This for me

I thought some bosses and areas were bs on my first run until I got gud. Malenia is still bs to me because I can't solo her yet. But on playthroughs 2-4 on new characters, I actively hunt Crucible Knights, Bell Bearing Hunters, and Night's Calvary from the start to parry them into oblivion

I like Elden Ring. :D

SicSlayer posted...

bruuuuuuh you're so gooood broooo. wooooow. I didn't think anyone had done it since the game came out. please have sex with me elden ring master.

just because something doesn't apply to you doesn't make it not true ya fuckin dolt.

to you and the others saying the bosses are designed for co-op, I think it proves yall just suck really. Be wrong all you want about the design of the game.

the fact that every boss is soloable flat out ends your arguments.

The only boss I broke down and resorted to summons for was Malenia, but that was partly because she hardcounters shield builds, which I was running.

the fact that every boss is soloable flat out ends your arguments.

so i mean, it doesn't. you can beat every boss at rl1, that doesn't mean they were designed for you to do that.

that said, i think the proof is in how the game handles multiple targets with its bosses. it can't. it gets stuck in uhhhh who do i target mode too often and for too long.

Yazarogi posted...

to you and the others saying the bosses are designed for co-op, I think it proves yall just suck really. Be wrong all you want about the design of the game.

the fact that every boss is soloable flat out ends your arguments.

jfc dude. how dense are you? you're the only one wrong about the design of the game lmfao. they were very obviously built around coop but your only argument is "y'all suck".

I know we're not drowning in pussy like you but facts are facts dawg, still designed around coop.

congrats homie, you solo'd them. let me worship the ground you walk upon. still doesn't magically make them not coop bosses.

how many duo/multi enemy bosses are there in ER? too many.

"they're designed for coop"

90% of the bosses ai bugs out if more than one target

The other 10% die instantly to sufficiently powerful aoe

Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...

Having a debate with myself whether or not to grab the Meteorite Staff and rock sling from Caelid

Rennala will laugh at you if you do not have Rock Sling. She has extremely high magic resistance which Rick Sling gets around by dealing physical damage.

SicSlayer posted...

jfc dude. how dense are you? you're the only one wrong about the design of the game lmfao. they were very obviously built around coop but your only argument is "y'all suck".

I know we're not drowning in pussy like you but facts are facts dawg, still designed around coop.

congrats homie, you solo'd them. let me worship the ground you walk upon. still doesn't magically make them not coop bosses.

how many duo/multi enemy bosses are there in ER? too many.

While I don't disagree that several encounters were designed around spirit ashes, merely having multiple opponents doesn't make it a coop boss. The real issue on most of them imo is that the arenas don't often give you a way to separate them and the bosses generally don't compliment each other very well. Godskin duo would be way better if the pillars simply didn't get destroyed, for example.

Spirit ashes absolutely trivialise many of the bosses though, which is unfortunate. I'm fine with them making it easier, but the better ashes can literally solo bosses for you.

I got fooled into buying bloodborne, never again

UndefeatedGOAT posted...

I got fooled into buying bloodborne, never again

I don't mean to diminish anyone's experience, but if you dislike Bloodborne, you are the problem.

This is a joke but seriously it's amazing

Godskin duo is solved by sleep pots. Of course that requires you to know that for some reason Godskins have insanely long sleep animations and sleep durations, which, why would you? But when you know that every fight against them becomes a formality as long as your damage is alright.

It's a lot like how Sekiro was where things were challenging if you took them head on, or made miles easier if you happened to know the trick for them. I'm not a fan of that kind of design in most cases, but I don't think ER's boss design ever crosses the line either way (except for exclusively Waterfowl Dance, which shouldn't exist the way it does and makes an otherwise great fight into a slog if you don't abuse her).

Cemith posted...

I don't mean to diminish anyone's experience, but if you dislike Bloodborne, you are the problem.

This is a joke but seriously it's amazing

its fine you can criticize my tastes, I thi m these are very bad games though

UndefeatedGOAT posted...

its fine you can criticize my tastes, I thi m these are very bad games though

People throw around "bad game" way too much. If it's not your kind of game, that's fine. It's not for everyone. But to call it a bad game is wrong.

Cemith posted...

People throw around "bad game" way too much. If it's not your kind of game, that's fine. It's not for everyone. But to call it a bad game is wrong.

moral relativism is wrong, im a truthseeker

For people that talk about open world being a waste of their time, I kinda get it tbh. I think FromSoft actually did it quite well. There was a lot to discover, and sometimes discovery itself is the point.

However, I'm seeing Wilds be mostly cinematic and walking around everywhere, and I'm like ok they can't keep up the intrigue, then it's just a waste of my time. I want to fight monsters, not play a required 5 minute mini game just to start the fight

SicSlayer posted...

jfc dude. how dense are you? you're the only one wrong about the design of the game lmfao. they were very obviously built around coop but your only argument is "y'all suck".

I know we're not drowning in pussy like you but facts are facts dawg, still designed around coop.

congrats homie, you solo'd them. let me worship the ground you walk upon. still doesn't magically make them not coop bosses.

how many duo/multi enemy bosses are there in ER? too many.

If they were designed for co-op, they wouldnt be soloable, they wouldnt be balanced to be able to be solod which they can.

What? People think the bosses in Elden Ring are designed for co-op? That's news to me. I soloed the whole game. That isn't some brag, as I thought that was the intention. My friends played solo only well.

bsp77 posted...

What? People think the bosses in Elden Ring are designed for co-op? That's news to me. I soloed the whole game. That isn't some brag, as I thought that was the intention. My friends played solo only well.

Yeah I've played every From game solo first. I'd always help friends with bosses only after I beat them myself.

Cemith posted...

Yeah I've played every From game solo first. I'd always help friends with bosses only after I beat them myself.

This is the way.

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God, I hate Runebears.