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FunWithAFryPan posted...

Its simply a mental state. It can be caused by an illness, but feeling depressed is a normal state of being in many cases.

Dont be snarky with me if youre going to get the basics wrong.

You're getting real uppity for someone arguing against Psychology 101.

DrizztLink posted...

You're getting real uppity for someone arguing against Psychology 101.

You always do this no u bit with me. You should know by now that I know what Im talking about.

Depression is not a disease. I implore you to check the psych 101 textbook if you disagree.

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So many people so confident in their ignorance. I shouldnt be so surprised.

FunWithAFryPan posted...

You always do this no u bit with me. You should know by now that I know what Im talking about.

Depression is not a disease. I implore you to check the psych 101 textbook if you disagree.

Hmm.

So far the WHO, SAMSA, the National Institute of Mental Health, and the DSM-V disagree with you.

All of them classify it as a major mental disorder.

Unless you're trying to pull the whole "lolol disease not disorder" schtick despite being the only person in the entire topic who used the word disease.

DrizztLink posted...

Hmm.

So far the WHO, SAMSA, the National Institute of Mental Health, and the DSM-V disagree with you.

All of them classify it as a major mental disorder.

Unless you're trying to pull the whole "lolol disease not disorder" schtick despite being the only person in the entire topic who used the word disease.

I havent used the word disease at all. Depression is a mental state. Thats it. There are depressive disorders that are defined by prolonged periods recurring depression, but thats not the same thing, is it?

My girlfriend breaks up with me, my dog dies, I lose my job. Im depressed. Am I mentally ill for being depressed? No, depression is a perfectly reasonable, perfectly normal way to be in that situation. The damn DSM-V isnt going to diagnose that Im mentally ill.

Depression can present in a number of different disorders. What youre doing is seeing someone cough and saying looks like hes got the coughs. It sounds dumb to anyone who actually knows anything.

FunWithAFryPan posted...

I havent used the word disease at all.

FunWithAFryPan posted...

Depression is not a disease.

Is there anything other easily verifiable thing you'd like to be wrong about?

We're at 2 for 2.

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When did I say anything about major depression? Youre not reading my posts.

DrizztLink posted...

Is there anything other easily verifiable thing you'd like to be wrong about?

We're at 2 for 2.

Would you like to actually respond to my points or is that just going to be too difficult? A symptom is not a disease.

Nobody other than you mentioned disease, excepting the part where I explained that to you already.

What it is is a mental disorder.

It is not "feeling sad" or whatever, it is a notable imbalance in the brain with its own specific diagnostic criteria.

FunWithAFryPan posted...

I havent used the word disease at all. Depression is a mental state. Thats it. There are depressive disorders that are defined by prolonged periods recurring depression, but thats not the same thing, is it?

My girlfriend breaks up with me, my dog dies, I lose my job. Im depressed. Am I mentally ill for being depressed? No, depression is a perfectly reasonable, perfectly normal way to be in that situation. The damn DSM-V isnt going to diagnose that Im mentally ill.

Depression can present in a number of different disorders. What youre doing is seeing someone cough and saying looks like hes got the coughs. It sounds dumb to anyone who actually knows anything.

Thank you for demonstrating that you have no idea what clinical depression is.

Hope he can never practice medicine ever again.

FunWithAFryPan posted...

I havent used the word disease at all. Depression is a mental state. Thats it. There are depressive disorders that are defined by prolonged periods recurring depression, but thats not the same thing, is it?

My girlfriend breaks up with me, my dog dies, I lose my job. Im depressed. Am I mentally ill for being depressed? No, depression is a perfectly reasonable, perfectly normal way to be in that situation. The damn DSM-V isnt going to diagnose that Im mentally ill.

Depression can present in a number of different disorders. What youre doing is seeing someone cough and saying looks like hes got the coughs. It sounds dumb to anyone who actually knows anything.

There is a staunch difference between clinical depression and a guy losing his job and his wife divorcing him over a short period of time.

With real depression it doesn't matter how well your life is going you might off yourself, Kurt Cobain and Chester Bennington both great examples extremely popular and respected musicians and that didn't prevent them from ending it.

Shit, many of the most depressed people put out a pretty good mask on appearing normal.

Two things:
Major depressive disorder, commonly known as depression, is a mental health disorder rather than a disease. With that said distinguishing between the two is splitting hairs on gamefaqs. External factors can trigger depressive episodes, but for those with the disorder, depression can appear unexpectedly, much like rain on an otherwise sunny day. It is not something that can be controlled without proper help and treatment.Managing this condition often requires professional help, as it is not something one can simply overcome on their own. So there is that and some people are seemingly over looking this.

However with that said, having this disorder does not excuse harmful behavior towards oneself or others. Even when experiencing a depressive state, individuals are responsible for their actions. Choices made during these times are still personal decisions. Therefore, if someone harms another person while depressed, they are still accountable for that choice.

cjsdowg posted...

Two things:
Major depressive disorder, commonly known as depression, is a mental health disorder rather than a disease. With that said distinguishing between the two is splitting hairs on gamefaqs. External factors can trigger depressive episodes, but for those with the disorder, depression can appear unexpectedly, much like rain on an otherwise sunny day. It is not something that can be controlled without proper help and treatment.Managing this condition often requires professional help, as it is not something one can simply overcome on their own. So there is that and some people are seemingly over looking this.

However with that said, having this disorder does not excuse harmful behavior towards oneself or others. Even when experiencing a depressive state, individuals are responsible for their actions. Choices made during these times are still personal decisions. Therefore, if someone harms another person while depressed, they are still accountable for that choice.

/QFT

Trumble posted...

clinical depression which actually results from an imbalance in the body's chemistry

This isn't necessarily true - truthfully we don't have conclusive evidence to say any specific thing causes depressive disorders

The idea of a chemical imbalance being what causes it largely followed the rise of SSRI medications claiming that increasing the availability of serotonin in the brain would treat depression

The common thoughts on the matter from the little I looked into it seem to point towards "it might be a contributor, but it is not the cause"

kingdrake2 posted...

we're all depressed at some times in our lives. only the good times will roll.

just spiraling for everyone else.

As someone who has been diagnosed with both MDD and dysthymia, this is the most infantile viewing of depression and comes close, yet still pales to what my own parents have told me about depression while essentially telling me "that's not an excuse" for various things.