Current Events > Trump was not shot. He was shot AT. He didn't eat a bullet, his supporters did.

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ssb_yunglink2 posted...

uhhh be careful if youre implying what I think

Not sure what you think I'm implying, but I'm saying he doesn't do any grazing despite being a (fat) cow. Grazing ala eating grass. Just a dumb bit of wordplay saying he could use a few more salads in his diet.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

You won't, no.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's just a factual statement, not a curse.

So why won't you say it?

I know TC is joking but is there a specific term to what he's doing?

Junthor posted...

A Republican shot at him. Its Republican on Republican violence.

That must have been very difficult for you, being a 2003 account with 24 amp, after all.

Never mind, 23 amp

kingdrake2 posted...

good question....

doesn't add much to the conversation i have trauma from it but that is left for another day.

Thought it was fairly obvious given the nature of the topic in word usage and accuracy of language and downplaying/overplaying events.

Fucking hell, TC how about we don't act like Qanon conspiracy morons? Let's be better than the right instead of turning into Alex Jones.

realnifty1 posted...

There isn't any evidence to support either way, the evidence only supports that he was shot at. We have testimony from Trump himself that he was shot, but Trump is literally the orange man who cried wolf so we can't really blame anyone for treating his statements with skepticism.

We know he was shot at, we know he presents as wounded immediately thereafter. It is presumptively likely that he was superficially shot/grazed, but it is certainly not proven at this point.

Is this satire?

Unless some new information appeared, yes, Trump was indeed shot.

Has he actually lost a part of his ear? Havent seen any evidence of that. The few photos I saw didnt show any obvious missing piece right after the shooting, and Trump is currently using a pillow to cover his whole ear.

Is Trump a piece of shit wholly unfit for office? No doubt about it.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

you cant say that a registered republican shot the republican presidential nominee? Why?

I can say that. That's what happened. A registered republican shot the republican nominee, Donald Trump.

It's the rest of it that I'm not interested in.

I mean, we got people out there saying that he was blading himself...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I can say that. That's what happened. A registered republican shot the republican nominee, Donald Trump.

It's the rest of it that I'm not interested in.

You're not interested in addressing the violent culture that lead to this event?

ClayGuida posted...

I only find it weird that it's been half a week and the only person saying he was shot is Trump himself.

How nobody else has corroborated that is weird. Wouldn't the hospital records have evidence to confirm it?

You're aware that medical records are confidential, right? You can't just go perusing someone's file at the hospital.

DrizztLink posted...

You're not interested in addressing the violent culture that lead to this event?

I'm not going to pin it solely on Republicans, no.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I'm not going to pin it solely on Republicans, no.

It's the left's fault that a Republican emboldened by Republican rhetoric took a shot at the Republican candidate at a Republican rally.

Gotcha.

Did someone actually say that Trump was assassinated? I havent seen that anywhere, be it on CE or on any news site, and it would be dumb as hell to say so.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

You're aware that medical records are confidential, right? You can't just go perusing someone's file at the hospital.

Every president before Trump released their medical records to the public. Trump was the first to break that tradition. Just like selling his companies. Just like releasing his tax records.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I'm not going to pin it solely on Republicans, no.

I mean why would you? You've been a hardcore Trumper for nearly a decade now.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I'm not going to pin it solely on Republicans, no.

Find me some examples of Dem rhetoric that would have lead to this.

There's plenty of Republican rhetoric that would, as I know you're aware, since Republicans are hateful bigots, as you are also aware.

But since you're so confident it's a "both sides" issue, surely you have some rock solid examples of Dem rhetoric that's comparable ready to go? Surely? Surely!

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I'm actually trying to do the opposite and steer towards what we factually know.

At the end of the day, shot or shot at isn't really relevant, that there was a shooting at all is the headline and what every one should be concerned with trying to figure out how we have gotten to such a common place point of gun violence.

Where whether he was shot or not becomes an issue is that him being shot is being used to drive sympathy towards his cause, but Trump being a narcissistic pathological liar means that it is not out of the realm of possibility for this to be trumped up. Occam's razor certainly dictates that in all likelihood that he was hit/grazed, but a few more facts from someone not Trump or someone in his inner circle would go a long way to making this argument go away.

DrizztLink posted...

It's the left's fault that a Republican emboldened by Republican rhetoric took a shot at the Republican candidate at a Republican rally.

Gotcha.

I'm not saying it's solely the left, either. Everyone is hostile. With the rhetoric surrounding project 2025 and the "jokes" being repeated over and over about how the attempted assassin "shouldn't have missed," it's pretty much impossible to argue that Republicans are the only ones pushing violent ideas.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I'm not saying it's solely the left, either. Everyone is hostile. With the rhetoric surrounding project 2025 and the "jokes" being repeated over and over about how the attempted assassin "shouldn't have missed," it's pretty much impossible to argue that Republicans are the only ones pushing violent ideas.

Those jokes didn't start until after the attempt, therefore they could not have lead to the attempt, please try again.

And what "rhetoric surrounding Project 2025" are you referring to? Are you actually trying to say Project 2025 is not an issue?

Again, you're so remarkably transparent.

Murphiroth posted...

Find me some examples of Dem rhetoric that would have lead to this.

Pretty much every time someone says "Republicans will literally kill me and all of my friends if Trump wins another term."

I've seen it a lot from the LGBT community. It's a fairly common piece of rhetoric.

Then there's the whole doomsaying narrative around project 2025, where not only do people pretend that it's possible to do that stuff, but that Trump absolutely will enact every insane idea contained therein.

realnifty1 posted...

I'm actually trying to do the opposite and steer towards what we factually know.

At the end of the day, shot or shot at isn't not relevant, that there was a shooting at all is the headline and what every one should be concerned with trying to figure out how we have gotten to such a common place point of gun violence.

Where whether he was shot or not becomes an issue is that him being shot is being used to drive sympathy towards his cause, but Trump being a narcissistic pathological liar means that it is not out of the realm of possibility for this to be trumped up. Occam's razor certainly dictates that in all likelihood that he was hit/grazed, but a few more facts from someone not Trump or someone in his inner circle would go a long way to making this argument go away.

what does this have to do with you denying photo evidence of the bullet? Immediately assuming a picture is photoshopped is not where good arguments start.

I get that Trump is scum. I get that he lies every time he opens his mouth. But the conspiracy type thinking around this shooting needs to go away. Boy cried wolf is one thing, becoming a conspiracy theorist is another

I swear CE would argue over whether paper bags are paper or bags

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Pretty much every time someone says "Republicans will literally kill me and all of my friends if Trump wins another term."

I've seen it a lot from the LGBT community. It's a fairly common piece of rhetoric.

Then there's the whole doomsaying narrative around project 2025, where not only do people pretend that it's possible to do that stuff, but that Trump absolutely will enact every insane idea contained therein.

So the reason a registered Republican who people said was conservative on every issue shot a Republican nominee was because... of the LGBT community. Lmao.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Pretty much every time someone says "Republicans will literally kill me and all of my friends if Trump wins another term."

I've seen it a lot from the LGBT community. It's a fairly common piece of rhetoric.

Then there's the whole doomsaying narrative around project 2025, where not only do people pretend that it's possible to do that stuff, but that Trump absolutely will enact every insane idea contained therein.

And this made a Republican shoot a Republican?

Really?

Murphiroth posted...

Those jokes didn't start until after the attempt, therefore they could not have lead to the attempt, please try again

Do we wanna go back to Johnny Depp's remarks, or Kathy Griffin's bloody Trump head? Maxine Waters telling people to harass Republicans at restaurants and gas stations because they're "not welcome anymore anywhere"

There's a lot of it to be found. It's not just Republicans.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Pretty much every time someone says "Republicans will literally kill me and all of my friends if Trump wins another term."

I've seen it a lot from the LGBT community. It's a fairly common piece of rhetoric.

Then there's the whole doomsaying narrative around project 2025, where not only do people pretend that it's possible to do that stuff, but that Trump absolutely will enact every insane idea contained therein.

lol, now Project 2025 denial. We get it.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Pretty much every time someone says "Republicans will literally kill me and all of my friends if Trump wins another term."

I've seen it a lot from the LGBT community. It's a fairly common piece of rhetoric.

Then there's the whole doomsaying narrative around project 2025, where not only do people pretend that it's possible to do that stuff, but that Trump absolutely will enact every insane idea contained therein.

This is the best you have? Downplaying Republican bigotry and hatred towards LGBTQ folks and also downplaying Project 2025?

And even taking your downplaying at face value, none of that is nearly as extreme as the hateful and vile shit Republicans push every single day.

You're so predictable.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Do we wanna go back to Johnny Depp's remarks, or Kathy Griffin's bloody Trump head? Maxine Waters telling people to harass Republicans at restaurants and gas stations because they're "not welcome anymore anywhere"

There's a lot of it to be found. It's not just Republicans.

Better watch those pearls Martha.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Do we wanna go back to Johnny Depp's remarks, or Kathy Griffin's bloody Trump head? Maxine Waters telling people to harass Republicans at restaurants and gas stations because they're "not welcome anymore anywhere"

There's a lot of it to be found. It's not just Republicans.

More hypocrisy from Gobs! I'm shocked.

You certainly don't give a shit when Republicans say hateful, vile, bigoted shit on the regular, but you pearl clutch over shit like that?

Also bringing up Griffin who got fuckin' cancelled over her thing meanwhile Republicans can just say whatever the fuck they want and you pretend like it isn't happening is rich.

Be a better person Gobs.

CoyoteTheGreat posted...

So the reason a registered Republican who people said was conservative on every issue shot a Republican nominee was because... of the LGBT community. Lmao.

Did I say that? I'm giving examples of the all-or-nothing rhetoric that encourages violence by way of "self defense" as some people have put it.

I've literally seen it said more than once that it would be self defense if someone assassinated Trump.

Do you think that's an okay thing to say?

Gobbles used SMOKESCREEN!

But it failed.

Murphiroth posted...

Be a better person Gobs.

Nah, I'm exactly the person I want to be.

Anyway, I've said my share. Gonna leave it where it is. Anybody pushing violent rhetoric should reconsider.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Nah, I'm exactly the person I want to be.

Anyway, I've said my share. Gonna leave it where it is. Anybody pushing violent rhetoric should reconsider.

RNC should shut down?

ClayGuida posted...

RNC should shut down?

No, not that violent rhetoric, not the rhetoric that has actually caused violence.

We need to crack down on nebulous alleged shitposts on CE, where the real power lies.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Did I say that? I'm giving examples of the all-or-nothing rhetoric that encourages violence by way of "self defense" as some people have put it.

I've literally seen it said more than once that it would be self defense if someone assassinated Trump.

Do you think that's an okay thing to say?

Well let's do the math here.

Alt righters consider trans people to be groomers, or widely sex criminals in general.

They're pro death Penalty

They want to jail trans people for "sex crimes"

Trump is the candidate which the avenue to do all of this becomes possible.

Gee I wonder why trans people are afraid of Trump?

ClayGuida posted...

RNC should shut down?

Gobs cannot confirm that Republicans push violent rhetoric, he's never seen it himself!

CEMen still committing account suicides this week for this?

Once again I find myself asking... what difference does this make? Anybody with at least two brain cells to rub together will understand that Trump was shot. There is irrefutable evidence of this. But, for the sake of this weird ass argument let's say he wasn't. That it was glass shrapnel, or when he was tackled, or a gust of fucking wind. Why does that matter at all? Why are people so hung up on this?

It doesn't change the story of how Trump was the target of an assassination attempt which resulted in a very minor physical injury. I can't speak to any mental trauma, I have no idea on that. But literally nothing changes.

It is so absurd that I'm struggling to fathom anybody actually believing that. Feels like the entire point of this topic is to bait out people like Gob? Good job I guess, it accomplished that at least.

Democrats being afraid for their safety in a Drumpft-ocracy led to one unhinged Republican shooting another?

Feels like there's a step or two missing there.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Did I say that? I'm giving examples of the all-or-nothing rhetoric that encourages violence by way of "self defense" as some people have put it.

I've literally seen it said more than once that it would be self defense if someone assassinated Trump.

Do you think that's an okay thing to say?

Is it okay to tell the truth about the fact that the end goal of many Republicans is that there are no more LGBTQ people in the world? Yes. Yes it is. Unlike you, I do not support any kind of genocide or gendercide or whatever you want to call it when your goal is to completely eliminate a group of people based on same sex sexual preferences or their gender.

You are trying very hard to deflect into territory that has absolutely fuck all to do with why your guy was shot at though.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

what does this have to do with you denying photo evidence of the bullet? Immediately assuming a picture is photoshopped is not where good arguments start.

I get that Trump is scum. I get that he lies every time he opens his mouth. But the conspiracy type thinking around this shooting needs to go away. Boy cried wolf is one thing, becoming a conspiracy theorist is another

Read better, there were definitely bullets. What we don't have evidence of is that any bullet actually struck him. The closest we have is one image of blood on his hand before the SS bring him to the ground, very compelling, but not definitive when watching the live video doesn't appear to have any blood as his hand comes away.

If it was anyone more truthful I don't think it would eve be questioned, but it will be hard for people to take Trump as being truthful when there is something to be gained from lying.

Samurai_Man posted...

CEMen still committing account suicides this week for this?

It's funny, he was a notorious maga troll on 261, but has been partially subdued here, though you see it bubble up occasionally. But going full mask off is a good sign for us.

pinky0926 posted...

I swear CE would argue over whether paper bags are paper or bags

They are plastic.

realnifty1 posted...

Read better, there were definitely bullets. What we don't have evidence of is that any bullet actually struck him. The closest we have is one image of blood on his hand before the SS bring him to the ground, very compelling, but not definitive when watching the live video doesn't appear to have any blood as his hand comes away.

If it was anyone more truthful I don't think it would eve be questioned, but it will be hard for people to take Trump as being truthful when there is something to be gained from lying.

so you still think the photo is doctored despite no evidence of that being the case. I dont understand why people are being so weird about this.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

so you still think the photo is doctored despite no evidence of that being the case. I dont understand why people are being so weird about this.

They are so biased and blinded by hatred they can't even believe what they are obviously seeing with their own eyes.