Current Events > Trump vs Harris debate, what's gonna happen?

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I didn't think he'd do the first debate with Biden because there wouldn't be an audience, but I was wrong in that. No idea how things could possibly go at this point.

He's not gonna show up lol

I want to see this. Even though it would just be typical Trump stammering word salad for every answer, I want to see Harris powerbomb him through a table.

Trump will chicken out.

Trump if he shows up will look like a complete dumbass

ToteAll posted...

If you, in an alternate universe or whatever, were a Trump advisor, would this be your advice? To not debate her?

I'm genuinly asking, what's worse for Trump, showing he's afraid, or performing poorly at a debate?

Probably doing poorly at a debate because you can make up excuses not to show up.

ToteAll posted...

If you, in an alternate universe or whatever, were a Trump advisor, would this be your advice? To not debate her?

I'm genuinly asking, what's worse for Trump, showing he's afraid, or performing poorly at a debate?

He's already demanding that it be shown on a "fair network like FOX News" otherwise it'll be rigged.

GeminiDeus posted...

He's already demanding that it be shown on a "fair network like FOX News" otherwise it'll be rigged.

Which is funny because that last debate was already rigged in his favor by not having the moderators do their job and shut him up when he got off topic.

Trump has to back out. If he debates Harris, he will no longer be able to hide his incoherent way of speaking behind Biden's gaffes.

The biggest advantage Trump had so far is not explicitly reminding people of who he is, with not being on twitter and the media paying attention to Biden's mistakes more so.

The moment she calls him a coward, the debate is on.

One important thing to consider in this matter: Who will be the moderator for the debate?

Everybody knows Kamala will thrash Trump in a debate and everybody knows Trump will leave as many questions unanswered, and lie as much as he can about things easily Googled.

The Moderator(a movie Id like Jason Statham to star in) will be a key factor.

Trump will lose because he's not bullying an old man anymore

They'll debate and Trump will do what he always does which is not shut up the entire time and generally try to derail the proceedings, steamroll over the moderators, and basically stall for time as long as possible to not have to provide any answers requiring substance. Harris will probably do fine but not well enough for everyone to consider the race over.

She will laugh at him.

WingsOfGood posted...

She will laugh at him.

And he wont like that

Honestly, anyone who thinks he won't show up are wrong. He craves attention so he will show up.

Although I do find it funny that his craving attention and actually showing at the first debate after acting like he would bow out led to a pyrrhic victory.

If they debate and Harris does not absolutely bulldoze him then it's a waste.

I want to see Harris demolish Trump in a debate. Maybe laugh when he says something stupid too.

Between 1 and 2. He is already trying to weasel his way out, but I think the longer it goes on if Kamala and others keep goading him into it for being the chicken shit coward that he is, I could see him foolishly accepting.

if trump tries to back out haris should publicly call him a coward

run constant attack adds calling him a coward

ToteAll posted...

If you, in an alternate universe or whatever, were a Trump advisor, would this be your advice? To not debate her?

I'm genuinly asking, what's worse for Trump, showing he's afraid, or performing poorly at a debate?

Accept a debate with her but only on ridiculous terms where the moderators and the format are extremely favorable to him. Insist that this is only fair for biden dropping out last minute. Then call her out for refusing to debate.

Thats probably whats going to happen.

I am not voting for Trump but I believe he can easily win the audience over (even if he loses the debate) by being louder than her and using the Gish Gallop. Tons of people don't recognize it and tend to notice that the opponent cannot adequately defend against it

Will he accept a debate with Harris? I assume the debates scheduled (I think it was just one) is effectively void and I doubt he'd agree to do it anyway with Harris in Biden's place or schedule a new one with her.

He's going to refuse a debate on every possible front.

They're likely going to try (and fail) to run with this "she's not eligible! Biden is supposed to be the one on the ticket!" thing in order to sow just enough chaos with uninformed voters.

There won't be anymore debates. The GOP doesn't have a strategy other than Biden is old and weak.

He will not do a debate.

And his base will not see it as a cowardly move.

"She's not a legitimate candidate! I should be running against Sleepy Joe! The Dems are trying to cheat again! All she'll do it tell nasty lies! NASTY WOMAN!"

And they'll buy it.

SAlYAN posted...

He will not do a debate.

And his base will not see it as a cowardly move.

"She's not a legitimate candidate! I should be running against Sleepy Joe! The Dems are trying to cheat again! All she'll do it tell nasty lies! NASTY WOMAN!"

And they'll buy it.

And don't forget the questions about her citizenship /s. But really it would be smart of him to debate because no one seems to listen to what he says. Just that he talks a lot and is loud

ToteAll posted...

If you, in an alternate universe or whatever, were a Trump advisor, would this be your advice? To not debate her?

If I was a Trump Advisor?

Show up, talk over her constantly, don't let her get any momentum or make any points. Just keep your bullshit rhetoric and project, interrupt, lie lie lie lie lie.

I'm genuinly asking, what's worse for Trump, showing he's afraid, or performing poorly at a debate?

The latter.

Right now the consensus (mostly from people who didn't watch it) is that Trump "won" the first debate and Bidens performance was so bad that's why he ran away in fear of Trump.

Trump doesn't want to risk losing that image by being slapped around.

The thing is, Trump supporters don't care. They're gonna vote Trump either way. But the "They're both as bad as each other" crowd of idiots who could vote either way will see Trump no showing the second debate as being afraid of Harris.

ToteAll posted...

If you, in an alternate universe or whatever, were a Trump advisor, would this be your advice? To not debate her?

I'm genuinly asking, what's worse for Trump, showing he's afraid, or performing poorly at a debate?

He chickened out of one of the 2020 debates.

His supporters dont truly buy what hes saying either lol. Hes a means to what they believe will be an ends to the opposition. If his supporters truly believe his lies, they wouldnt be the first to move the goalposts when you engage. They wouldnt respond to arguments out of context. They wouldnt deflect to Hunters crack addiction when Trump is the topic. People who truly believe their own bullshit would fully engage and try debunking everything rather than play mind games before running away.

In short, every lame playing make believe still has their subconscious whispering the truth to them. Thats why theyre quick to get defensive and avoid transparency.

aarrgus posted...

Honestly, anyone who thinks he won't show up are wrong. He craves attention so he will show up.

He never showed up to a single primary debate and held rallies instead.

UnfairRepresent posted...

If I was a Trump Advisor?

Show up, talk over her constantly, don't let her get any momentum or make any points. Just keep your bullshit rhetoric and project, interrupt, lie lie lie lie lie.

The latter.

Right now the consensus (mostly from people who didn't watch it) is that Trump "won" the first debate and Bidens performance was so bad that's why he ran away in fear of Trump.

Trump doesn't want to risk losing that image by being slapped around.

The thing is, Trump supporters don't care. They're gonna vote Trump either way. But the "They're both as bad as each other" crowd of idiots who could vote either way will see Trump no showing the second debate as being afraid of Harris.

Exactly this. Trump can talk so much that Harris barely gets to be heard and if she does have a moment to respond she can't possibly address all of the arguments. Doesn't even matter if the arguments were good or not. The Gish Gallop works. There is no way to defeat it when talking to a large audience that isn't familiar with the tactic

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Backing out would still hurt him, right?

Hes either going to avoid the debate or do it in a setting where its completely 1 sided for himself (which hes already trying to do). And if she agrees to the latter, hes going to be as loud as possible when she tries to make a point and the biased moderator would let him get away with it.

Can we get moderators to do their job and force trump to answer a question?

also sadly I think Harris be stuck correcting trump all night which while a victory, may not accomplish much

Miquella posted...

Backing out would still hurt him, right?

I think it would be better for him if does simply because he can't shut the fuck up. The more Trump talks the better it is for Kamala.