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SilvosForever 08/07/24 11:30:25 PM #1:	Imagine the fucking privilege that no other issue in life matters as much as this to you. And showing up to protest the Democrats. Like - do you understand what Trump wants to do to Palestine? --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif <cite>SilvosForever posted [p:981629466] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Imagine the fucking privilege that no other issue in life matters as much as this to you.And showing up to protest the Democrats.Like - do you understand what Trump wants to do to Palestine?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 08/07/24 11:32:22 PM #2:	So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check. and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue. The democrats have shown at least some notions they may scale back from their unconditional support, even if it is a minor move in the right direction. Thus the protests. Putting pressure on politicians is how democracy works, they work for us not the other way around. --- ? <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:981629482] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check.and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue. The democrats have shown at least some notions they may scale back from their unconditional support, even if it is a minor move in the right direction. Thus the protests. Putting pressure on politicians is how democracy works, they work for us not the other way around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyQueen 08/07/24 11:32:35 PM #3:	SilvosForever posted... Imagine the fucking privilege that no other issue in life matters as much as this to you. And showing up to protest the Democrats. Like - do you understand what Trump wants to do to Palestine? Yep --- "Every last inch of me's covered in hair!" <cite>HairyQueen posted [p:981629485] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>SilvosForever posted... </cite><quote>Imagine the fucking privilege that no other issue in life matters as much as this to you.And showing up to protest the Democrats.Like - do you understand what Trump wants to do to Palestine?</quote>Yep</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilvosForever 08/07/24 11:34:09 PM #4:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check. No. Trump would fucking send U.S. troops in to assist Israel. Or fucking Glass Gaza. It does little to help your cause when you're calling the only people that sympathize with you "Genociders" when they already don't approve of what's happening. It makes you look like a fucking fool. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif <cite>SilvosForever posted [p:981629498] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check.</quote>No. Trump would fucking send U.S. troops in to assist Israel. Or fucking Glass Gaza.It does little to help your cause when you're calling the only people that sympathize with you "Genociders" when they already don't approve of what's happening. It makes you look like a fucking fool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlemayor333 08/07/24 11:34:19 PM #5:	I would be so steamed if I was a Palestinian seeing random people protesting in my name over the candidate I need to win or else --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg <cite>Turtlemayor333 posted [p:981629503] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>I would be so steamed if I was a Palestinian seeing random people protesting in my name over the candidate I need to win or else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 08/07/24 11:34:45 PM #6:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check. Has been. Biden is a worthless piece of shit on this issue, but Harris shows real promise of improving things. --- And they say that a Trumble will save us... <cite>Trumble posted [p:981629507] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check.</quote>Has been. Biden is a worthless piece of shit on this issue, but Harris shows real promise of improving things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Left4Doge 08/07/24 11:34:58 PM #7:	She should've been prepared for this to happen though let's be honest. Detroit is not that far from Dearborn, which has the largest Muslim population in the country. She also needs those voters to not stay home... I have seen the second protest clipped out of context everywhere, and not the first one where she supported their right to hold their opinion. It was an unforced error that should've been handled better, in a location where she should have known she was going to get this pushback (her running mate was a supporter of Uncommitted delegates to voice their opinion) --- Formerly Alpha218 - Crypto is a scam and this name isn't a reference to it https://discord.gg/vzpsef2tJc - Join us for games \|\| https://bit.ly/39z7PHA - YouTube <cite>Left4Doge posted [p:981629509] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>She should've been prepared for this to happen though let's be honest.Detroit is not that far from Dearborn, which has the largest Muslim population in the country. She also needs those voters to not stay home... I have seen the second protest clipped out of context everywhere, and not the first one where she supported their right to hold their opinion. It was an unforced error that should've been handled better, in a location where she should have known she was going to get this pushback (her running mate was a supporter of Uncommitted delegates to voice their opinion)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ooooooranges 08/07/24 11:35:02 PM #8:	Imagine thinking people shouldn't protest a literal genocide --- http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/2011/10/10/pujols_85507.jpg <cite>Ooooooranges posted [p:981629512] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking people shouldn't protest a literal genocide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 08/07/24 11:36:55 PM #9:	Trumble posted... Has been. Biden is a worthless piece of shit on this issue, but Harris shows real promise of improving things. hopefully, but she would be the first democrat in power to offer any significant pushback against Netenyahu so I'll believe it when she does anything of substance. I am hopeful though --- ? <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:981629526] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Has been. Biden is a worthless piece of shit on this issue, but Harris shows real promise of improving things.</quote>hopefully, but she would be the first democrat in power to offer any significant pushback against Netenyahu so I'll believe it when she does anything of substance. I am hopeful though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 08/07/24 11:38:20 PM #11:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... hopefully, but she would be the first democrat in power to offer any significant pushback against Netenyahu so I'll believe it when she does anything of substance. I am hopeful though It's somewhat a "I'll believe it when I see it" for me too, but she shows far more promise than anyone else has so far, and at this point it's not like another do-over or a third party win is going to happen. She's the best chance (certianly a million times better than Trump) on this issue right now. Heck, if it at least changes from "blank checks" to "restricted checks", that's a step up over either Trump or Biden. Sounds like she's willing to consider going significantly further than that though. --- And they say that a Trumble will save us... <cite>Trumble posted [p:981629541] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>hopefully, but she would be the first democrat in power to offer any significant pushback against Netenyahu so I'll believe it when she does anything of substance. I am hopeful though</quote>It's somewhat a "I'll believe it when I see it" for me too, but she shows far more promise than anyone else has so far, and at this point it's not like another do-over or a third party win is going to happen. She's the best chance (certianly a million times better than Trump) on this issue right now.Heck, if it at least changes from "blank checks" to "restricted checks", that's a step up over either Trump or Biden. Sounds like she's willing to consider going significantly further than that though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilvosForever 08/07/24 11:39:18 PM #12:	Ooooooranges posted... Imagine thinking people shouldn't protest a literal genocide If Trump wins he'd probably just throw these "protesters" in jail. So congrats on fucking yourself and your own cause by making enemies out of everyone. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif <cite>SilvosForever posted [p:981629549] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Ooooooranges posted... </cite><quote>Imagine thinking people shouldn't protest a literal genocide</quote>If Trump wins he'd probably just throw these "protesters" in jail. So congrats on fucking yourself and your own cause by making enemies out of everyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 08/07/24 11:42:00 PM #13:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check. and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue. The democrats have shown at least some notions they may scale back from their unconditional support, even if it is a minor move in the right direction. Thus the protests. Putting pressure on politicians is how democracy works, they work for us not the other way around. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:981629569] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>So: Accept what the Dems plan is (which has been a blank check for Netenyahu's genocide) or accept Trump's plan: also a blank check.and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue. The democrats have shown at least some notions they may scale back from their unconditional support, even if it is a minor move in the right direction. Thus the protests. Putting pressure on politicians is how democracy works, they work for us not the other way around.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 08/08/24 12:18:42 AM #14:	SilvosForever posted... If Trump wins he'd probably just throw these "protesters" in jail. So congrats on fucking yourself and your own cause by making enemies out of everyone. So they should just shutup and accept what their political overlords decide for them lol --- ? <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:981629866] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>SilvosForever posted... </cite><quote>If Trump wins he'd probably just throw these "protesters" in jail. So congrats on fucking yourself and your own cause by making enemies out of everyone.</quote>So they should just shutup and accept what their political overlords decide for them lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/08/24 12:22:03 AM #15:	Imagine telling this to a Palestinian American to their face --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:981629890] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Imagine telling this to a Palestinian American to their face </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 08/08/24 12:23:11 AM #16:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... So they should just shutup and accept what their political overlords decide for them lol Welcome to reality, where hierarchies exist and you have two choices. Oh, and one choice will not only make the situation in Gaza worse, he'll also abandon Ukraine, so one's objectively increasing global suffering over the other. It's a very easy decision. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:981629896] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>So they should just shutup and accept what their political overlords decide for them lol</quote>Welcome to reality, where hierarchies exist and you have two choices. Oh, and one choice will not only make the situation in Gaza worse, he'll also abandon Ukraine, so one's objectively increasing global suffering over the other. It's a very easy decision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlemayor333 08/08/24 12:24:32 AM #17:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue. Interesting theory, so explain why there were George Floyd protests happening across both red and blue states --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg <cite>Turtlemayor333 posted [p:981629902] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue.</quote>Interesting theory, so explain why there were George Floyd protests happening across both red and blue states</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 08/08/24 12:25:30 AM #18:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Welcome to reality, where hierarchies exist and you have two choices. No, that is why protests and more specifically civil/human-rights protests historically have led to some of the most pivotal legislation in our country's history --- ? <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:981629909] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>Welcome to reality, where hierarchies exist and you have two choices.</quote>No, that is why protests and more specifically civil/human-rights protests historically have led to some of the most pivotal legislation in our country's history</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 08/08/24 12:31:59 AM #19:	Turtlemayor333 posted... Interesting theory, so explain why there were George Floyd protests happening across both red and blue states I'm not understanding how that correlates. These are Democratic voters protesting their party to move from the party's current position of letting Israel have free-reign. Why would they protest at republican events if they have no intention on voting for them in the first place, and they know the republican party will not budge on their hardened pro-israel stance --- ? <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:981629958] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Turtlemayor333 posted... </cite><quote>Interesting theory, so explain why there were George Floyd protests happening across both red and blue states</quote>I'm not understanding how that correlates. These are Democratic voters protesting their party to move from the party's current position of letting Israel have free-reign. Why would they protest at republican events if they have no intention on voting for them in the first place, and they know the republican party will not budge on their hardened pro-israel stance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 08/08/24 12:38:48 AM #20:	I get not wanting to vote for genocide, but I don't see how abstaining in voting against the fascist takeover of america helps anyone. Suck it up and vote for the democrats. --- When money talks for the very last time, and nobody walks a step behind When there's only one race, and that's mankind, then we shall be free <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:981630015] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>I get not wanting to vote for genocide, but I don't see how abstaining in voting against the fascist takeover of america helps anyone. Suck it up and vote for the democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/08/24 12:39:10 AM #21:	I just in general have a very low level of respect for single issue voters. However these single issue voters seem especially eager to sabotage their own goals. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:981630022] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>I just in general have a very low level of respect for single issue voters. However these single issue voters seem especially eager to sabotage their own goals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 08/08/24 12:45:15 AM #22:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... I'm not understanding how that correlates. These are Democratic voters protesting their party to move from the party's current position of letting Israel have free-reign. Why would they protest at republican events if they have no intention on voting for them in the first place, and they know the republican party will not budge on their hardened pro-israel stance Because it's choosing to not speak out against the Republican stance --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:981630073] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>I'm not understanding how that correlates. These are Democratic voters protesting their party to move from the party's current position of letting Israel have free-reign. Why would they protest at republican events if they have no intention on voting for them in the first place, and they know the republican party will not budge on their hardened pro-israel stance</quote>Because it's choosing to not speak out against the Republican stance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlemayor333 08/08/24 12:47:07 AM #23:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... I'm not understanding how that correlates. These are Democratic voters protesting their party to move from the party's current position of letting Israel have free-reign. Why would they protest at republican events if they have no intention on voting for them in the first place, and they know the republican party will not budge on their hardened pro-israel stance When has that ever been the case? Look at any of the bad Supreme Court rulings and there are always protesters there. Are you telling me they expect Clarence Thomas to walk down and have an earnest heart to heart with them? They are saying "Let's only protest Harris and not Trump, but we really are leftists!" Sure seems legit. --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg <cite>Turtlemayor333 posted [p:981630090] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>I'm not understanding how that correlates. These are Democratic voters protesting their party to move from the party's current position of letting Israel have free-reign. Why would they protest at republican events if they have no intention on voting for them in the first place, and they know the republican party will not budge on their hardened pro-israel stance</quote>When has that ever been the case? Look at any of the bad Supreme Court rulings and there are always protesters there. Are you telling me they expect Clarence Thomas to walk down and have an earnest heart to heart with them?They are saying "Let's only protest Harris and not Trump, but we really are leftists!" Sure seems legit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 08/08/24 12:48:36 AM #24:	mistymermaid posted... Because it's choosing to not speak out against the Republican stance There have been protests in red and blue states though. In terms of protests at these campaign rallies, not many Arab/muslim-americans even consider voting for Trump, for obvious reasons. So I don't think that criticism makes much sense --- ? <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:981630100] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>mistymermaid posted... </cite><quote>Because it's choosing to not speak out against the Republican stance</quote>There have been protests in red and blue states though. In terms of protests at these campaign rallies, not many Arab/muslim-americans even consider voting for Trump, for obvious reasons. So I don't think that criticism makes much sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 08/08/24 12:55:11 AM #25:	This is a rough situation because it's an important issue and the U.S. is facilitating Israel's genocide/ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people in Gaza so they can claim the land (Netanyahu has shown a map of Israel stretching "from the river to the sea", so we know his true motives), however I also agree that to forsake the country domestically to Christo-fascists due to apathy or some protest vote is absolutely the worst thing to do, especially since Trump has made it clear he'd greenlight Netanyahu doing whatever he wants to the Palestinians as long as "he (Netanyahu) gets it done quick". Trying to stick it to the Dems/Biden is certainly not doing the Palestinians any favors, however there are citizens who have family that have died in the conflict or that of good friends/neighbors, so I don't want to just dismiss the suffering those people are going through, either. SilvosForever posted... If Trump wins he'd probably just throw these "protesters" in jail. So congrats on fucking yourself and your own cause by making enemies out of everyone. I'm pretty he's actually said he'd deport them, he's at least said he'd deport the Pro-Palestinian protestors to Palestine, which may not even mean they are ethnically Palestinian/have family there, he'd just be dumping dissidents there to die by Israeli weaponry. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:981630151] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>This is a rough situation because it's an important issue and the U.S. is facilitating Israel's genocide/ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people in Gaza so they can claim the land (Netanyahu has shown a map of Israel stretching "from the river to the sea", so we know his true motives), however I also agree that to forsake the country domestically to Christo-fascists due to apathy or some protest vote is absolutely the worst thing to do, especially since Trump has made it clear he'd greenlight Netanyahu doing whatever he wants to the Palestinians as long as "he (Netanyahu) gets it done quick".Trying to stick it to the Dems/Biden is certainly not doing the Palestinians any favors, however there are citizens who have family that have died in the conflict or that of good friends/neighbors, so I don't want to just dismiss the suffering those people are going through, either.SilvosForever posted... </cite><quote>If Trump wins he'd probably just throw these "protesters" in jail. So congrats on fucking yourself and your own cause by making enemies out of everyone.</quote>I'm pretty he's actually said he'd deport them, he's at least said he'd deport the Pro-Palestinian protestors to Palestine, which may not even mean they are ethnically Palestinian/have family there, he'd just be dumping dissidents there to die by Israeli weaponry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 08/08/24 1:37:31 AM #26:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... There have been protests in red and blue states though. In terms of protests at these campaign rallies, not many Arab/muslim-americans even consider voting for Trump, for obvious reasons. So I don't think that criticism makes much sense Well, I might've went too far. I suppose there's merit to pointing out that protesting at a GOP rally is likely to be futile. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:981630485] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>There have been protests in red and blue states though. In terms of protests at these campaign rallies, not many Arab/muslim-americans even consider voting for Trump, for obvious reasons. So I don't think that criticism makes much sense</quote>Well, I might've went too far. I suppose there's merit to pointing out that protesting at a GOP rally is likely to be futile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 08/08/24 1:41:47 AM #27:	SilvosForever posted... would there's a ton of "if" and "would" and "could be" and "imagine this" as an argument when the reality is literal genocide that has happened and is currently happening, nothing imaginary or potential there, it's very real and very here. we could write several fanfictions and novels of what could happen if anything or anyone else is in charge but that doesn't change what's actually happening right now. --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:981630516] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>SilvosForever posted... </cite><quote>would</quote>there's a ton of "if" and "would" and "could be" and "imagine this" as an argumentwhen the reality is literal genocide that has happened and is currently happening, nothing imaginary or potential there, it's very real and very here. we could write several fanfictions and novels of what could happen if anything or anyone else is in charge but that doesn't change what's actually happening right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkfire12 08/08/24 1:50:51 AM #28:	i know someone like this, it really baffles me any time i try to pressure them on why it might be a bad idea to vote jill stein in the trump election they just go off about how they're done with voting for the lesser of two evils and how intersectionality means that gaza's suffering echoes throughout all other minorities which like, that's understandable enough but donald trump pledged to "end transgender insanity day 1" and they're nonbinary i guess sidenote to say i don't want to detract from what's happening in gaza at all and protesting it is very important, i just don't see the rationale behind voting third party as a form of protest when trump winning means you'll never even have a chance to try and change things (at least not before gaza's completely wiped, but in the worst case never again) --- world's worst arlecchino main, noted himejoshi she/her. trans rights <cite>Darkfire12 posted [p:981630580] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>i know someone like this, it really baffles meany time i try to pressure them on why it might be a bad idea to vote jill stein in the trump election they just go off about how they're done with voting for the lesser of two evils and how intersectionality means that gaza's suffering echoes throughout all other minoritieswhich like, that's understandable enoughbut donald trump pledged to "end transgender insanity day 1" and they're nonbinaryi guess sidenote to say i don't want to detract from what's happening in gaza at all and protesting it is very important, i just don't see the rationale behind voting third party as a form of protest when trump winning means you'll never even have a chance to try and change things (at least not before gaza's completely wiped, but in the worst case never again)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hospy 08/08/24 1:51:49 AM #29:	Ooooooranges posted... Imagine thinking people shouldn't protest a literal genocide <cite>Hospy posted [p:981630586] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Ooooooranges posted... </cite><quote>Imagine thinking people shouldn't protest a literal genocide</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 08/08/24 2:08:38 AM #30:	Darkfire12 posted... i know someone like this, it really baffles me any time i try to pressure them on why it might be a bad idea to vote jill stein in the trump election they just go off about how they're done with voting for the lesser of two evils and how intersectionality means that gaza's suffering echoes throughout all other minorities which like, that's understandable enough but donald trump pledged to "end transgender insanity day 1" and they're nonbinary i guess sidenote to say i don't want to detract from what's happening in gaza at all and protesting it is very important, i just don't see the rationale behind voting third party as a form of protest when trump winning means you'll never even have a chance to try and change things (at least not before gaza's completely wiped, but in the worst case never again) It's an unfortunate reality that there are people who think their protest votes matters more than the tangible rights and realities of others. There was a lot of this going around in 2016 where people either voted Trump or didn't vote at all as a protest against Clinton. The result was we got Trump, one of the worst President's we've ever had, who within his first year implemented 64% of policy recommendations by The Heritage Foundation, per their own words. There's also the accelerationist shit-for-brains who think the quickest way to socialist and/or progressive utopia is by letting right-wingers completely destroy the nation and somehow we bounce back into their ideal nation. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:981630681] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Darkfire12 posted... </cite><quote>i know someone like this, it really baffles meany time i try to pressure them on why it might be a bad idea to vote jill stein in the trump election they just go off about how they're done with voting for the lesser of two evils and how intersectionality means that gaza's suffering echoes throughout all other minoritieswhich like, that's understandable enoughbut donald trump pledged to "end transgender insanity day 1" and they're nonbinaryi guess sidenote to say i don't want to detract from what's happening in gaza at all and protesting it is very important, i just don't see the rationale behind voting third party as a form of protest when trump winning means you'll never even have a chance to try and change things (at least not before gaza's completely wiped, but in the worst case never again)</quote>It's an unfortunate reality that there are people who think their protest votes matters more than the tangible rights and realities of others. There was a lot of this going around in 2016 where people either voted Trump or didn't vote at all as a protest against Clinton. The result was we got Trump, one of the worst President's we've ever had, who within his first year implemented 64% of policy recommendations by The Heritage Foundation, per their own words.There's also the accelerationist shit-for-brains who think the quickest way to socialist and/or progressive utopia is by letting right-wingers completely destroy the nation and somehow we bounce back into their ideal nation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 08/08/24 2:13:02 AM #31:	How come these protesters never show up at Trump rallys where the Republican candidate is even more pro Israel then the Democratic candidate <cite>Sonixs posted [p:981630708] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>How come these protesters never show up at Trump rallys where the Republican candidate is even more pro Israel then the Democratic candidate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 08/08/24 2:18:36 AM #32:	Sonixs posted... How come these protesters never show up at Trump rallys where the Republican candidate is even more pro Israel then the Democratic candidate To be fair to them I wouldn't want to show up at a Trump rally either. No telling what a racist cultist might do to them. --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. <cite>jefffan posted [p:981630746] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Sonixs posted... </cite><quote>How come these protesters never show up at Trump rallys where the Republican candidate is even more pro Israel then the Democratic candidate </quote>To be fair to them I wouldn't want to show up at a Trump rally either.No telling what a racist cultist might do to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 08/08/24 2:24:51 AM #33:	To be fair to this topic. There's a lot of single issue voters out there. My guess is Palestinian ones going to lean to the younger side, which of course are mostly potential Democratic votes. A good speech at the DMC should sort this out. --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. <cite>jefffan posted [p:981630787] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>To be fair to this topic. There's a lot of single issue voters out there. My guess is Palestinian ones going to lean to the younger side, which of course are mostly potential Democratic votes.A good speech at the DMC should sort this out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 08/08/24 2:31:20 AM #34:	SilvosForever posted... Imagine the fucking privilege that no other issue in life matters as much as this to you. Imagine seeing innocent people slaughtered every day, and knowing that whoever you vote for, the murderers and war criminals will continue to receive billions of dollars and near-total support from your government. Imagine being an Arab and/or a Muslim, and casting your vote for someone who gave Netanyahu a standing ovation for his genocide. Such privilege! And showing up to protest the Democrats. Why should they not protest the Democrat policies they disagree with? Like - do you understand what Trump wants to do to Palestine? Yes, from a pragmatic point of view, they need to vote Democrat, but if you can't understand why this is extremely hard for them to stomach, you don't have much imagination at all. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:981630822] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>SilvosForever posted... </cite><quote>Imagine the fucking privilege that no other issue in life matters as much as this to you.</quote>Imagine seeing innocent people slaughtered every day, and knowing that whoever you vote for, the murderers and war criminals will continue to receive billions of dollars and near-total support from your government.Imagine being an Arab and/or a Muslim, and casting your vote for someone who gave Netanyahu a standing ovation for his genocide.Such privilege!<quote>And showing up to protest the Democrats.</quote>Why should they not protest the Democrat policies they disagree with?<quote>Like - do you understand what Trump wants to do to Palestine?</quote>Yes, from a pragmatic point of view, they need to vote Democrat, but if you can't understand why this is extremely hard for them to stomach, you don't have much imagination at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 08/08/24 2:35:30 AM #35:	jefffan posted... To be fair to them I wouldn't want to show up at a Trump rally either. No telling what a racist cultist might do to them. Scary for sure. I'm atheist. Definitely not welcome! --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:981630842] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>To be fair to them I wouldn't want to show up at a Trump rally either.No telling what a racist cultist might do to them.</quote>Scary for sure. I'm atheist. Definitely not welcome!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 08/08/24 2:41:41 AM #36:	The shut up and never criticize our politicians crowd was a death cult spreading GOP misinformation to keep Biden in the race and is now ruining the vibes by screaming that Palestine doesnt matter because of one small gaff at a rally. Can you guys not play into the GOP hands for even one day. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:981630871] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>The shut up and never criticize our politicians crowd was a death cult spreading GOP misinformation to keep Biden in the race and is now ruining the vibes by screaming that Palestine doesnt matter because of one small gaff at a rally. Can you guys not play into the GOP hands for even one day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sfcalimari 08/08/24 2:44:45 AM #37:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue. No it's because you've all fooled yourself into thinking that the only way you can win on anything is if Trump wins. And you're easily manipulated by foreign disinformation. I find it really hard at this point to believe that any of the keyboard crusaders actually care about Palestinians. If you wanted to accomplish anything you'd shut down every GOP event and make it completely unacceptable for any politician to allow Gaza to be endlessly blown up by Israel. But you'll never do that because Dems are an easier target and the GOP and Russia slyly order you to leave Republicans alone. If you're so quick to call 30,000+ civilians being killed a genocide, what are you going to call it when Trump goes in and kills 2 million people? What's worse than genocide? --- "Tether even a roasted chicken." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo <cite>sfcalimari posted [p:981630890] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>and the reason they are protesting the democrats and not republicans because there is no reason to protest the republicans won't move on this issue.</quote>No it's because you've all fooled yourself into thinking that the only way you can win on anything is if Trump wins. And you're easily manipulated by foreign disinformation.I find it really hard at this point to believe that any of the keyboard crusaders actually care about Palestinians. If you wanted to accomplish anything you'd shut down every GOP event and make it completely unacceptable for any politician to allow Gaza to be endlessly blown up by Israel. But you'll never do that because Dems are an easier target and the GOP and Russia slyly order you to leave Republicans alone.If you're so quick to call 30,000+ civilians being killed a genocide, what are you going to call it when Trump goes in and kills 2 million people? What's worse than genocide?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 08/08/24 2:47:33 AM #38:	sfcalimari posted... I find it really hard at this point to believe that any of the keyboard crusaders actually care about Palestinians you don't know me, or my background. --- ? <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:981630907] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>sfcalimari posted... </cite><quote>I find it really hard at this point to believe that any of the keyboard crusaders actually care about Palestinians</quote>you don't know me, or my background.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 08/08/24 2:48:18 AM #39:	foreverzero212 posted... The shut up and never criticize our politicians crowd was a death cult spreading GOP misinformation to keep Biden in the race and is now ruining the vibes by screaming that Palestine doesnt matter because of one small gaff at a rally. Can you guys not play into the GOP hands for even one day. I'm not convinced some portion of these people aren't conservative operatives trying to sabotage the Harris campaign. It genuinely doesn't make sense these people would rather help Trump win than convince democrats to take action they desire. I am completely and totally unable to comprehend the perspective these people operate on that when faced with two perceived evils they chose the worse one not just for their single issue but for themselves, the nation, and the world as a whole. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:981630910] in Imagine be... [t:80824557]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite><quote>The shut up and never criticize our politicians crowd was a death cult spreading GOP misinformation to keep Biden in the race and is now ruining the vibes by screaming that Palestine doesnt matter because of one small gaff at a rally. Can you guys not play into the GOP hands for even one day.</quote>I'm not convinced some portion of these people aren't conservative operatives trying to sabotage the Harris campaign. It genuinely doesn't make sense these people would rather help Trump win than convince democrats to take action they desire. I am completely and totally unable to comprehend the perspective these people operate on that when faced with two perceived evils they chose the worse one not just for their single issue but for themselves, the nation, and the world as a whole. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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