Current Events > Republicans are trying to swiftboat Tim Walz

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kaiolino
08/08/24 6:00:30 AM
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and appears to be working thanks to the gullible newspapers.

https://twitter.com/DanaHoule/status/1821356900727840965

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1821375804900606016

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1821366986544173386

https://twitter.com/jamisonfoser/status/1821364715966144692

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Antifar
08/08/24 6:22:25 AM
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They aren't gullible. They want Trump to win.

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Nok_Su_Kow
08/08/24 6:48:09 AM
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Last night Walz took the high road and thanked Vance for his service.

He carried a weapon of war, that's what you do as a national guard sometimes. He was deployed in Italy after 9/11 as a security measure. I'm sure he also carried a weapon of war there as well. He did not say he ever fired it during a war, Vance got that part wrong.

He retired honorably almost a full year before his group was deployed in Iraq. He did not "abandon his soldiers", that's baloney.

It's not hard to debunk this stolen valor claim! I don't see this lasting very long.
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BlueKat
08/08/24 7:03:28 AM
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Learned the term "swiftboating" today

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Irony
08/08/24 7:39:25 AM
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I don't accept criticisms from guys that fuck couches.

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wackyteen
08/08/24 7:45:33 AM
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They're so scared it's hilarious.

Also misusing "stolen valor" is so fucking on brand for them.

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bigblu89
08/08/24 9:00:52 AM
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We learned this with Trump vs Hillary.

Just attacking character and not policy is a losing strategy.

All we did was talk about Trumps character and not how he had ZERO plan for America if/when he won.

Now that he know he has zero plan, and everyone knows how shitty his character is, thats the focus now.

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hmnut7
08/08/24 9:06:55 AM
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Vance is running with a man who said he doesn't respect American POWs and attacked a Gold Star family.

Trump, Vance, MAGA, the GOP and anyone voting for republicans,
CAN SHUT ALL THE FUCKING WAY UP!!!!

When it comes to respecting our troops.

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GranAures
08/08/24 9:07:54 AM
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hmnut7 posted...
Vance is running with a man who said he doesn't respect American POWs and attacked a Gold Star family.
And draft dodger.

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ReiRei89
08/08/24 9:08:22 AM
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GranAures posted...
And draft dodger.
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Derwood
08/08/24 9:08:43 AM
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Journalism swung from reporting facts to click-bait just asking questions long ago

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Probo93
08/08/24 9:11:27 AM
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Not shocking coming from JD "Couch Fucking" Vance

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DipDipDiver
08/08/24 9:16:58 AM
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Imagine accusing someone who served for 25 years of stolen valor

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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/24 9:17:24 AM
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No, it's not working

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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/08/24 9:36:35 AM
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Ya'll are gonna mouth off but one day you're gonna have a few too many and end up in the couch and you'll all understand what you've been missing.

A couch is basically a submissive dolphin.

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Dio
08/08/24 9:39:46 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
No, it's not working

It actually is. Republicans don't care about facts. The voterbase will buy whatever they say as truth. So if they say Walz is a woke marxist stealing valor they'll believe it.

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Were_Wyrm
08/08/24 9:42:56 AM
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swifties at it again...

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wackyteen
08/08/24 9:42:59 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...


A couch is basically a submissive dolphin.

Get me out of this fucking timeline.

This is a sentence that shouldn't exist.

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littlebro07
08/08/24 9:43:15 AM
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You can't just say "I retire!" and quit the military on short notice. You gotta submit paperwork which takes months to process.

The fact that his retirement happened before a deployment was just lucky timing, it wasn't planned. But all the keyboard warriors who love veterans but never even served will continue to call him a coward. Those people weren't voting for Kamala anyway.

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Heineken14
08/08/24 9:45:12 AM
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Well considering Vance is the one lying about Walz stolen valor... nope. lol

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bover_87
08/08/24 9:46:51 AM
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Not sure what's going on with NYT, but apparently WaPo was taken over by some far right org. I don't have any links but I remember reading about it a month or two ago.

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wackyteen
08/08/24 9:47:11 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
You can't just say "I retire!" and quit the military on short notice. You gotta submit paperwork which takes months to process.

The fact that his retirement happened before a deployment was just lucky timing, it wasn't planned. But all the keyboard warriors who love veterans but never even served will continue to call him a coward. Those people weren't voting for Kamala anyway.

And word on the street is that he was retired a whole year before his unit went. It's possible that the unit at large didn't even know they were deploying at that time. He, being the CSM, probably heard a possibility of it happening or knew it was slated but its almost a guarantee that he had submitted his retirement paperwork before he had any real confirmation.

Now you could make an argument that he "should have" fought to stay in and go, but if he wore the position for any real length of time, he probably wouldn't have been their CSM by the deployment anyways. I know NG works different than Active Duty Army with how they handle positions, so I might be just slightly off base with that assessment, but in the Active Army he would almost be guaranteed to have been replaced by a CSM that would be new to the unit.

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ROBANN_88
08/08/24 9:49:59 AM
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Swiftboat?

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Nok_Su_Kow
08/08/24 9:51:05 AM
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Hell no, their tactics are to complain, lie and whine. Notice they only ever attack and discredit with their lies, they never offer any policy of their own for the American people to contrast with. That is a LOSING strategy.

Maybe they have policies of their own? Tells you everything that they don't offer any and they try to distant themselves from Project 2025.

Republicans: I don't wanna say to get better material, but this is embarrassing.
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wackyteen
08/08/24 9:51:47 AM
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Nok_Su_Kow posted...


Hell no, their tactics are to complain, lie and whine. Notice they only ever attack and devalue, they never offer any policy of their own. That is a LOSING strategy.
Oh I'm sure during the VP debate, Vance will stupidly bring it up and Walz will absolutely trounce him with the facts of the matter.

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mystic_belmont
08/08/24 9:51:48 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
You can't just say "I retire!" and quit the military on short notice. You gotta submit paperwork which takes months to process.

The fact that his retirement happened before a deployment was just lucky timing, it wasn't planned. But all the keyboard warriors who love veterans but never even served will continue to call him a coward. Those people weren't voting for Kamala anyway.

Getting out can take up to a year.

Also, his unit got orders to deploy in July, two months after he retired.

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Nok_Su_Kow
08/08/24 9:53:42 AM
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wackyteen posted...
Oh I'm sure during the VP debate, Vance will stupidly bring it up and Walz will absolutely trounce him with the facts of the matter.

And he'll look like the good guy killing him with Minnesotan kindness. "Thanks for your service, (dumbass!)"
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wackyteen
08/08/24 9:54:01 AM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Getting out can take up to a year.

Also, his unit got orders to deploy in July, two months after he retired.

Damn lol talk about an L for those harpers. Too bad lies spread faster than the truth.

I will clarify a bit, not to defend them, but you can know you're going on deployment long before you ever see actual orders (at least on a personal/personnel level).

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Nok_Su_Kow
08/08/24 9:57:16 AM
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He sent in the papers to run for congress two months before anyone knew they would be deployed. It's fucking abysmal how weak this attack is.
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creativerealms
08/08/24 9:57:37 AM
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Yep the moment Vance attacked Walz military service I knew this was a repeat of the Kerry slander. Though Walz isn't the type of person who will ignore it. He will go on Fox News and set the record straight if he has to.

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mystic_belmont
08/08/24 10:02:13 AM
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wackyteen posted...
Damn lol talk about an L for those harpers. Too bad lies spread faster than the truth.

I will clarify a bit, not to defend them, but you can know you're going on deployment long before you ever see actual orders (at least on a personal/personnel level).

He was also looking at signing another six year contract.

Maybe he wanted to run for congress and wanted to spend time with his family?

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