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cousinvini
08/16/24 8:12:32 AM
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MAGAism seems like a way to make minorities lives miserable rather than improving racist trumper's quality of life

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lilORANG
08/16/24 8:13:58 AM
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The guy who eats exclusively at McDonald's would probably appreciate the return of the dollar menu.

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darkace77450
08/16/24 8:17:03 AM
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They believe anything he tells them even if it directly contradicts something else he's told them.

Edit: You're not wrong though. They also want him to "hurt the right people."
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mustachedmystic
08/16/24 8:20:40 AM
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MAGATs believe whatever their God(not YWYH) tell them to.

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Solar_Crimson
08/16/24 8:21:53 AM
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If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
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brestugo
08/16/24 11:39:12 AM
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cousinvini posted...
MAGAism seems like a way to make minorities lives miserable rather than improving racist trumper's quality of life




That's how I see it. Few really care about the bullshit Trump & Co. are spouting. They just want the power to make the people they hate suffer, even at their own expense.

Their rhetoric only appeals to those who are gullible enough to consider it.

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CADE_FOSTER
08/16/24 11:39:54 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
They believe anything he tells them even if it directly contradicts something else he's told them.

Edit: You're not wrong though. They also want him to "hurt the right people."

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creativerealms
08/16/24 11:44:39 AM
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They believe it. They just don't understand what it would mean for Prices to return where they were in 2019 or earlier. The amount of damage needed to our economy for that to happen.

He likes the poorly educated.

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bobbycorwin
08/16/24 11:45:50 AM
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I disagree. MAGA believe whatever their media has pumped into their brains. The clearest example is when Trump told them to vaccinate and they booed him. Trump has more leeway than most, but he cant do whatever he wants, He still has to coast down the river of right wing misinformation.

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Yawn_Master2
08/16/24 11:47:28 AM
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It is basically impossible to make things cheaper again unless there is a massive depression or we start sucking up money and deleting it from the economy which would probably cause a massive depression.

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bobbycorwin
08/16/24 11:52:47 AM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
It is basically impossible to make things cheaper again unless there is a massive depression or we start sucking up money and deleting it from the economy which would probably cause a massive depression.

A weird thing about the right is that they seem to be okay with whatever prices are as long as a Republican is in charge.

During the Bush years, gas was twice what it is now and gas companies where masking record profits, but only the left seemed to care about it. Towards the end of Bushs presidency housing costs where skyrocketing and it was seen as a good thing up until the housing market collapsed.

Now these are major points of contention and factors on why our economy is doing bad.

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CADE_FOSTER
08/16/24 12:17:48 PM
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gonna be alot of homeless magas if he is elected project2025 and him cutting social security and medicare and the tariffs will make everything much more expensive
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C_Pain
08/16/24 12:22:01 PM
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Taco bell costs more under Biden than Trump

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HighSeraph
08/16/24 12:22:47 PM
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MAGAs will believe whatever they're told to believe, that's the point of authoritarianism

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Kradek
08/16/24 12:22:48 PM
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Yes, that's what it's always been about.

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mustachedmystic
08/16/24 12:23:53 PM
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Day before election The economy is so bad! Inflation is eating up all my money!
Day after Trump win Oh my Trump! The economy is doing so great!! It hasnt been this bigly in 4 years!!!

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Notti
08/19/24 6:56:37 AM
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Trump's live in fantasy land.

What they want to believe is truth. And however they want to twist Trump's words is reality

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BlackScythe0
08/21/24 5:47:30 PM
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cousinvini posted...
MAGAism seems like a way to make minorities lives miserable rather than improving racist trumper's quality of life
It's a cult, based on rage against a perceived wrong and shared victimhood. It's why you see them constantly finding a new reason they are a victim to continually fuel the rage. There is no fixing anything, they are a movement based on destruction and hoping they will like the ashes better.
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ItsNotA2Mer
08/21/24 5:52:49 PM
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I mean, when he was asked how he would specifically make things cheaper for people, his response was "vote for me, I'll fix it".
So yeah, he's got absolutely nothing.

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creativerealms
08/21/24 6:01:14 PM
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They don't know how prices work.

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ClayGuida
08/21/24 6:07:23 PM
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They think there's a button on the desk in the oval office that makes things cheaper or more expensive. Similar to how they think there's a dial next to the coke button that dictates how expensive gas is.

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Dark_Moon
08/21/24 6:23:19 PM
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He plan on adding tariffs, so things will be more expensive.

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ClayGuida
08/21/24 6:32:53 PM
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https://fortune.com/2024/08/16/trump-tariffs-trade-war-inflation-economic-policies-joachim-klement/

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wanderingshade
08/21/24 6:40:22 PM
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They probably do because these people barely understand the jobs of the President and Vice President and what the Senate even does.

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Delirious_Beard
08/21/24 6:41:52 PM
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fascists believe that purging the undesirables will lead to utopia. they are completely economically illiterate

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darkace77450
08/21/24 7:35:25 PM
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Dark_Moon posted...
He plan on adding tariffs, so things will be more expensive.

Hes also going to deport ten million people performing chronic labor.
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brestugo
08/21/24 7:41:42 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Hes also going to deport ten million people performing chronic labor.

It was unsourced, but I heard someone before the DNC say that the construction industry is short some 300K workers. If the actual numbers are anywhere near that, that's a big deal.

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Voidgolem
08/21/24 7:45:55 PM
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the byline they keep pushing is "energy independence will make everything cheaper"

ignoring that we're already producing the most oil we've ever produced period

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NoxObscuras
08/21/24 9:07:14 PM
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brestugo posted...
It was unsourced, but I heard someone before the DNC say that the construction industry is short some 300K workers. If the actual numbers are anywhere near that, that's a big deal.
That wouldn't surprise me. Florida's anti immigration law caused a huge labor shortage there.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented

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SAlYAN
08/21/24 9:31:35 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Day before election The economy is so bad! Inflation is eating up all my money!
Day after Trump win Oh my Trump! The economy is doing so great!! It hasnt been this bigly in 4 years!!!
Pretty much. That's exactly what they did when Biden was elected, in the opposite direction.

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ShineboxPhil
08/21/24 9:47:01 PM
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bobbycorwin
08/22/24 8:50:27 AM
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ItsNotA2Mer posted...
I mean, when he was asked how he would specifically make things cheaper for people, his response was "vote for me, I'll fix it".
So yeah, he's got absolutely nothing.

His solution is drill baby drill. Ive heard him answer this question a few times and his answer is always that ensgery costs are more expensive so everything else is expensive and hell fix it by increasing energy production.

Then that links back to Trump getting billions from the oil lobby and it makes sense his solution to everything is just let oil billionaires do whatever they want.

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Heineken14
08/22/24 8:52:09 AM
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SAlYAN posted...
Pretty much. That's exactly what they did when Biden was elected, in the opposite direction.

It's exactly what they did with Donnie and Obama. It was literal days after the election before Donnie was already claiming credit for the glorious economy that he single handedly built all by himself with no help at all.

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bobbycorwin
08/22/24 9:21:32 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
It's exactly what they did with Donnie and Obama. It was literal days after the election before Donnie was already claiming credit for the glorious economy that he single handedly built all by himself with no help at all.

There was a part of me that wanted to see Trump win the 2020 election. Ive never seen a Republican try to clean up their own mess.

Though when I think about it, Fox News had already started praising Trump for the glorious return of his economy early January, then after Biden took over it was suddenly crap.

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darkace77450
08/22/24 9:52:54 AM
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bobbycorwin posted...
Though when I think about it, Fox News had already started praising Trump for the glorious return of his economy early January, then after Biden took over it was suddenly crap.

Sean Hannity called Biden's presidency a disaster four days after his inauguration. He didn't wait a week before starting his bullshit, and the fucking morons that make up his audience no doubt ate it up.
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Hyena_Of_Ice
08/22/24 10:46:24 AM
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They genuinely believe that the gas price crash due to COVID was a result of Trump achieving energy independence for America.
Even more of them fail to understand that you can become 100% energy independent, but the price of oil will still be dictated by the international markets.
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LonelyStoner
08/22/24 10:47:48 AM
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MAGAts would set their own house on fire if it meant the liberal next door choked on the smoke for 30 seconds.

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Heineken14
08/22/24 10:50:07 AM
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Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
They genuinely believe that the gas price crash due to COVID was a result of Trump achieving energy independence for America.
Even more of them fail to understand that you can become 100% energy independent, but the price of oil will still be dictated by the international markets.

That's the problem with them, is that they both don't live in reality nor know what the fuck they are talking about. You bring up things like that we are producing more energy and are more independent than we were under Donnie and it's all just lies and fudged numbers. They do the same shit with unemployment and job creation. Keep pushing them for sources and they will eventually complain that you listen to CNN. It's all so exhaustingly stupid.

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mustachedmystic
08/22/24 12:23:57 PM
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Its like Im living in an open air asylum. I feel like one of those old men going on about the good old days. I only 49.

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Hyena_Of_Ice
08/22/24 5:30:41 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
That's the problem with them, is that they both don't live in reality nor know what the fuck they are talking about. You bring up things like that we are producing more energy and are more independent than we were under Donnie and it's all just lies and fudged numbers. They do the same shit with unemployment and job creation. Keep pushing them for sources and they will eventually complain that you listen to CNN. It's all so exhaustingly stupid.

Yup, their "fake news!" default. Reminder that whenever they hear negative news about their orange messiah or movement, 99% of the time, MAGAts will default to 1 of 4 possible responses:
A. "Fake News!"
B. whataboutism
C. 4D chess! (there's a hidden genius plan behind something stupid Trump is doing. Qanonists default to this a LOT)
D. "You're telling me a good thing as though it's a bad thing!"
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luigi33
08/22/24 5:34:41 PM
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bobbycorwin posted...
I disagree. MAGA believe whatever their media has pumped into their brains. The clearest example is when Trump told them to vaccinate and they booed him. Trump has more leeway than most, but he cant do whatever he wants, He still has to coast down the river of right wing misinformation.
Has there ever been a time in human history where a national party's followers were this delusional and divorced from reality? I mean were Nazi citizens this delusional as well?

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darkace77450
08/22/24 5:35:37 PM
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Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
Yup, their "fake news!" default. Reminder that whenever they hear negative news about their orange messiah or movement, 99% of the time, MAGAts will default to 1 of 4 possible responses:
A. "Fake News!"
B. whataboutism
C. 4D chess! (there's a hidden genius plan behind something stupid Trump is doing. Qanonists default to this a LOT)
D. "You're telling me a good thing as though it's a bad thing!"

E. That was a long time ago. He's changed.
F. Because of the deep state.
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DrizztLink
08/22/24 5:36:51 PM
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luigi33 posted...
Has there ever been a time in human history where a national party's followers were this delusional and divorced from reality? I mean were Nazi citizens this delusional as well?
Probably, but we're easily the most interconnected society in human history.

So the idiots who'd normally just bother people in their teeny little towns are instead broadcasting to the entire world.

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Hyena_Of_Ice
08/22/24 5:41:05 PM
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luigi33 posted...
Has there ever been a time in human history where a national party's followers were this delusional and divorced from reality? I mean were Nazi citizens this delusional as well?

Don't compare the MAGAts to the Nazi fanbase, here. The Nazis did a pretty good job at censoring (often brutally) any narrative that contradicted their own, and German citizens couldn't simply hop onto the internet to fact check Hitler's bullshit back then, either. In addition, the scientific community had not yet fully debunked pseudoscientific racism, yet.

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bobbycorwin
08/22/24 8:23:03 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
E. That was a long time ago. He's changed.
F. Because of the deep state.

G. It was a joke

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Sufferedphoenix
08/22/24 8:35:04 PM
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cousinvini posted...
MAGAism seems like a way to make minorities lives miserable rather than improving racist trumper's quality of life

Most conservatives I've met don't really come off as outright racist just blind to the problems minorities face.

I've been guilty of this mindset. My life ain't that bad and I don't see where they seem to be suffering outside them not trying hard enough.

Sometimes one must actually start to hang around and associate with different people to gain perspective.

Example being growing up I kinda had a separate but equal mindset. I felt black and white peoples subcultures where too different for us ever to largely get along. Well I started going to parties that where predominantly black and while I didn't care for the music everything else was cool. We drank we got high we had good times. Then working at the prison half my co workers where black and some of my favorite ones to work with where black.

One was a pure comedian but from time to time he would educate me on some shit if I said something that came off as insensitive (which I never realized was till he explained it) such as he was giving me shit for eating cheese plain and I said crackers love cheese so he explained why blacks called white people crackers.

Sorry for the rant I'm bad about that. But that's my story of being a former Republican who slowly changed over time.

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Voidgolem
08/22/24 10:47:45 PM
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a common brainworm amongst those of the right wing I've talked to is the idea of life being zero-sum: If we take away the rights and accommodations afforded to the less fortunate or different, that's more for everyone else.

what they almost always do not realize is that that's both not how that works -and- that if that were how it worked, they are also in the camp of less accommodations/rights by dint of not being super rich.

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IceCreamOnStero
08/22/24 11:25:57 PM
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Obviously they don't. Even the on-the-ground working class republicans that "believe" their life's going to get better will often fold if you pick around for a bit.

Asking right wingers how right wing policy has directly improved their material conditions can expose a lot

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