Current Events > I hate landlords =/

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all renters are bastards.

LeoRavus posted...

Without landlords people who aren't able to buy a house for whatever reason would be homeless.

Without landlords people who aren't able to buy a house would be able to buy a house.

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It absolutely is, because it drives up house prices.and prevents renters from saving for a deposit.

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Even if that's true, it's not a reason why private landlords are necessary or desirable.

can you guys let tc have a problem without making it about u

its a totally legitimate gripe to have to worry about a sudden uppage of a hundred dollars in expenses per month

yes yes we know you guys all pay morbillion rent bucks but cmon

Super_Slash posted...

I assume you haven't seen my other threads, but basically I'm applying fucking everywhere, then I get interviews that go nowhere. This has been happening for months.

I'm not trying to ne a jerk here, just not familiar with your past threads.

What type of jobs are you applying for?

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Even if that's true, it's not a reason why private landlords are necessary or desirable.

If there are people who don't want to buy a home, how do you propose said tenant rents a home? The government? That's still a landlord, and arguably a worse one.

The government would be deciding who gets the nice place to rent and who gets the trash or not so desirable places to rent.

Not to mention not all private landlords are these scrooge mcduck super villains you paint them to be just because you have a raging hate boner for the haves.... just because you are a have not.

NatsuSama posted...

If there are people who don't want to buy a home, how do you propose said tenant rents a home? The government? That's still a landlord, and arguably a worse one.

The government would be deciding who gets the nice place to rent and who gets the trash or not so desirable places to rent.

Not to mention not all private landlords are these scrooge mcduck super villains you paint them to be just because you have a raging hate boner for the haves.... just because you are a have not.

Imagine going through life with this mindsetoof yikes

NatsuSama posted...

If there are people who don't want to buy a home, how do you propose said tenant rents a home? The government?

Yes.

NatsuSama posted...

That's still a landlord, and arguably a worse one.

If you ignore the real world, yes.

NatsuSama posted...

The government would be deciding who gets the nice place to rent and who gets the trash or not so desirable places to rent.

Obvious solution: make them all nice.

NatsuSama posted...

Not to mention not all private landlords are these scrooge mcduck super villains you paint them to be just because you have a raging hate boner for the haves.... just because you are a have not.

LOL, I own my home and could afford to buy a second one and let it. I don't, because I'm not an arsehole.

NatsuSama posted...

I'm not trying to ne a jerk here, just not familiar with your past threads.

What type of jobs are you applying for?

Ill just direct you.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80847799

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

If you ignore the real world, yes.

The only one ignoring the real world is you.

The government controlling your housing, your rent, and etc would still make the government your new landlord if they are the new entity dictating your rent, and rental management. No matter how you try to sugar coat it.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Obvious solution: make them all nice.

In the real world that isn't realistic. Not everyone would get the dream location with the nice view, nice location, with nice features, crime free, that's nicely located from their job and or needs. So no, that's not an "obvious" solution. It's an idealistic solution. Someone is going to get stuck with the not so desired locations. Many actually, and sorry those less desirable places will be seen as not nice... even horrible.

Realistically they all wouldn't be "nice." The person stuck in a higher crime neighborhood, or farther from the their job, are not so good view, are less amenities, or less resources, or etc are not going to see their place as equally nice as those with greater features. And again, realistically they aren't going to he equally desirable.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

LOL, I own my home and could afford to buy a second one and let it. I don't, because I'm not an a******.

Totally believe you.

Thanatos is destroying you in this debate. Its kind of embarrassing. Oof. Yikes.

Super_Slash posted...

she's upping the rent by $100, just because she can I guess

correct

that is the point of ownership

SaikyoStyle posted...

Thanatos is destroying you in this debate. Its kind of embarrassing. Oof. Yikes.

Having a cheerleader(s) doesn't mean he destroyed anyone, but I'm fully aware there are those that think agreement in numbers combined with gimmicky insults, and getting the last word is "destroying someone in a debate."

And just for the record, regardless if Thanatos replies to me or not, I don't take getting the last word as a, "I won." Like any discussion, I take it as, they lost interest in talking to me and invested their time elsewhere.

My friend in Turkey had their rent upped 70%

Apparently there's some kind of law there that rent is allowed to go up on par with inflation and inflation is out of control there

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actually it is but not in the way you think

it has been known a company that gave landlords software has been making the rent go up and there is a lawsuit about it from the FTC

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/nx-s1-5087586/realpage-rent-lawsuit-doj-real-estate-software-landlords-justice-department-price-fixing

basically as they colluded to make rents go up, house prices in general soared
this has prevented many people who would have been able to buy a home unable to

raising rent prices do effect the overall market as buying a home to rent out becomes desirable as the rent goes up causing more demand which in turn makes the price go up of buying a house

LeoRavus posted...

Without landlords people who aren't able to buy a house for whatever reason would be homeless. The only way to get rid of landlords is to make home ownership reasonable for everyone. Which would raise taxes because someone's going to have to pay for the people who won't make payments properly and would normally be evicted by a landlord.

Or we could do what some countries do and give everyone a free basic apartment.

WingsOfGood posted...

actually it is but not in the way you think

it has been known a company that gave landlords software has been making the rent go up and there is a lawsuit about it from the FTC

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/nx-s1-5087586/realpage-rent-lawsuit-doj-real-estate-software-landlords-justice-department-price-fixing

basically as they colluded to make rents go up, house prices in general soared
this has prevented many people who would have been able to buy a home unable to

raising rent prices do effect the overall market as buying a home to rent out becomes desirable as the rent goes up causing more demand which in turn makes the price go up of buying a house

Yeah, they literally calculated how much they could raise the rent without people protesting.

NatsuSama posted...

Having a cheerleader(s) doesn't mean he destroyed anyone, but I'm fully aware there are those that think agreement in numbers combined with gimmicky insults, and getting the last word is "destroying someone in a debate."

And just for the record, regardless if Thanatos replies to me or not, I don't take getting the last word as a, "I won." Like any discussion, I take it as, they lost interest in talking to me and invested their time elsewhere.

Big oof. Double yikes.

NatsuSama posted...

The government controlling your housing, your rent, and etc would still make the government your new landlord if they are the new entity dictating your rent, and rental management. No matter how you try to sugar coat it.

I'm not trying to sugar coat it. What you've said is true. What's also true in the real world, as opposed to the neoliberal fantasy, is that public housing invariably means much lower rent and much better security of tenure than private renting, and is, at the very least, no worse than private renting in all other respects.

NatsuSama posted...

In the real world that isn't realistic. Not everyone would get the dream location with the nice view, nice location, with nice features, crime free, that's nicely located from their job and or needs.

It's perfectly realistic to make the houses themselves nice. It's purely a political choice whether to do so or not - as Keynes said, anything we can do we can afford.

NatsuSama posted...

Not to mention not all private landlords are these scrooge mcduck super villains you paint them to be just because you have a raging hate boner for the haves.... just because you are a have not.

Actually I hate landlords because every one I've ever had has been apathetic and stupid at best, and actively cruel and stupid at worst. All of them charged exorbitant prices for run down tenements that they refused to fix.

I once had a landlord who was so lazy that he allowed the building to become overrun with mice just because he didn't feel like doing anything about the downstairs tenant who was literally stacking bags of garbage in their apartment and in the hall. Guess what the landlord did about the mice. If you guessed: "buy a ton of fox urine and splash it everywhere because it was cheaper than an exterminator" you're correct. It didn't work either. But it did make the whole building smell like piss.

Out of all the people I know who rent, exactly one has a landlord who actually does his job and isn't a huge prick.

Landlords are scum. I'd hate them no matter how much money I had.

what governmental programs are you willing to cut to have the government buy up land, properties, and to provide ongoing maintenance?

I pay $500 a month for a 3 bedroom house.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

I'm not trying to sugar coat it. What you've said is true. What's also true in the real world, as opposed to the neoliberal fantasy, is that public housing invariably means much lower rent and much better security of tenure than private renting, and is, at the very least, no worse than private renting in all other respects.

What happens when the government effectively controls where you can or cannot live? Do you see the potential for abuse there?

krazychao5 posted...

what governmental programs are you willing to cut to have the government buy up land, properties, and to provide ongoing maintenance?

Instead of cutting things, how about raising the money by taxing unearned income (like rent)?

GeraldDarko posted...

What happens when the government effectively controls where you can or cannot live? Do you see the potential for abuse there?

No more so than what happens nwo, when landlords control it. Less, in fact, since governments are at least democratically accountable.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Instead of cutting things, how about raising the money by taxing unearned income (like rent)?

No more so than what happens nwo, when landlords control it. Less, in fact, since governments are at least democratically accountable.

It's best to consider what the worst people may do with a power. If a government can effectively dictate were you live, what happens when somone like Trump has the reigns. Do you want a government of Trump loyalist to decide where you live. Seems like that could be really scary for any marginalized groups.

GeraldDarko posted...

t's best to consider what the worst people may do with a power. If a government can effectively dictate were you live, what happens when somone like Trump has the reigns.

Exactly - a landlord.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Exactly - a landlord.

So you would make it so somone like Trump can potentially have ultra-land lord powers? I'm against that.

GeraldDarko posted...

So you would make it so somone like Trump can potentially have ultra-land lord powers?

Your whole premise misses the point that someone like Trump wouldn't be increasing public housing at all, he'd be selling off what there already is of it to landlords.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Your whole premise misses the point that someone like Trump wouldn't be increasing public housing at all, he'd be selling off what there already is of it to landlords.

Okay. Hitler or someone like him. There's a reason we have limits on the powers of government. My point is that a government being able to dictate where people live is a power no government should have.

GeraldDarko posted...

Okay. Hitler or someone like him. There's a reason we have limits on the powers of government. My point is that a government being able to dictate where people live is a power no government should have.

Who cares about all that. Landlord bad!!!!!!

GeraldDarko posted...

There's a reason we have limits on the powers of government.

There's a reason we need limits on the power of landlords.

GeraldDarko posted...

My point is that a government being able to dictate where people live is a power no government should have.

It's incredibly weird how you keep saying things like "dictate where people live". Do landlords "dictate where people live" right now? Because that's the only extent to which the provision of public housing means the government doing so.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

There's a reason we need limits on the power of landlords.

Word. I agree.
Big reason why I think we shouldnt give anyone ultra-landlord powers.

Im a landlord

GeraldDarko posted...

Big reason why I think we shouldnt give anyone ultra-landlord powers.

That can only mean you think renting should be banned completely, whether private or public sector. And people call me extreme.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

That can only mean you think renting should be banned completely, whether private or public sector. And people call me extreme.

What? How can it meant that?

Super_Slash posted...

I don't have a car or a license. That really limits what I can do.

As a fellow rural living person this has got to be prioritized asap. It sucks but you need a car for damn near everything in these kind of places.

Mad-Dogg posted...

As a fellow rural living person this has got to be prioritized asap. It sucks but you need a car for damn near everything in these kind of places.

In my current situation that is impossible. I still don't have income.

GeraldDarko posted...

What? How can it meant that?

How can it mean anything else? You don't want private landlords to be allowed to let, you don't want the state to be allowed to let. What else is there?

I never said that I don't want private landlords

GeraldDarko posted...

I never said that I don't want private landlords

Yes you did. You said you didn't want the government to have the same powers private landlords now have. You then said you didn't want anyone to have those powers.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Yes you did. You said you didn't want the government to have the same powers private landlords now have. You then said you didn't want anyone to have those powers.

GeraldDarko posted...

Okay. Hitler or someone like him. There's a reason we have limits on the powers of government. My point is that a government being able to dictate where people live is a power no government should have.

I don't want the government to have the ability to say which property someone own or where. There could be benefits to government controling property if only good people ever held power, but that's never going to happen, so government shouldn't hold that power.
I find the idea of someone like DeSantis or Abbott or many others holding that kind of power terrifying. That's my point

BlueBoy675 posted...

I would kill for $400 a month

This.

krazychao5 posted...

all renters are bastards.

Most, but not all. Our last two landlords have been wonderful. Our current one even put us up in her home (shes always traveling and barely stays there) while she hired contractors to improve our current place. Shes also let us do our laundry there until we find a washer and dryer for a reasonable price. Invites us to all the block parties and events around town, too.

GeraldDarko posted...

I don't want the government to have the ability to say which property someone own or where.

Now you're moving the goalposts again. This is about renting, not owning.

bobspacethespacecow posted...

Even if it is lot rent for an owned trailer or something, it's still like a 30% increase

All the people saying that's nothing would still be super mad if their rent increased from $1200/mo to $1600/mo from one year to the next

This, wtf at 33% increase. That's illegal where I'm at

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Now you're moving the goalposts again. This is about renting, not owning.

Sorry. Apply the same to where renters live. Doesn't change my point.

Your point is stupid.

SaikyoStyle posted...

Your point is stupid.

Why do you say it's stupid?

"it might get abused ergo we should do absolutely nothing about the problem"