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ssb_yunglink2 10/13/24 7:50:07 PM #1:	I understand why recent flip flopping is crucified, like Trump flipping on abortion within literally 24 hours a few weeks ago, but why is something like Kamala Harris wanting to legalize weed in 2024 seen as fake or pandering because she was a DA who prosecuted weed crimes years ago? Hell Obama didnt even necessarily agree with same sex marriage when he took office and get it was enshrined under his term. At what point are such changes just allowed to be genuine stance changes as these politicians age and learn? --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:982515499] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>I understand why recent flip flopping is crucified, like Trump flipping on abortion within literally 24 hours a few weeks ago, but why is something like Kamala Harris wanting to legalize weed in 2024 seen as fake or pandering because she was a DA who prosecuted weed crimes years ago? Hell Obama didnt even necessarily agree with same sex marriage when he took office and get it was enshrined under his term. At what point are such changes just allowed to be genuine stance changes as these politicians age and learn? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 10/13/24 7:50:40 PM #2:	Trump didn't flip flop on anything --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:982515507] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Trump didn't flip flop on anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 10/13/24 7:52:34 PM #3:	Irony posted... Trump didn't flip flop on anything i mean he literally flipped on voting for and then against abortion protection in Florida. Hes a snake who does whatever is beneficial to him, and quickly shrunk back down when his base went nuclear over it. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:982515535] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Trump didn't flip flop on anything</quote>i mean he literally flipped on voting for and then against abortion protection in Florida. Hes a snake who does whatever is beneficial to him, and quickly shrunk back down when his base went nuclear over it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 10/13/24 7:52:50 PM #4:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... I understand why recent flip flopping is crucified, like Trump flipping on abortion within literally 24 hours a few weeks ago, but why is something like Kamala Harris wanting to legalize weed in 2024 seen as fake or pandering because she was a DA who prosecuted weed crimes years ago? Hell Obama didnt even necessarily agree with same sex marriage when he took office and get it was enshrined under his term. At what point are such changes just allowed to be genuine stance changes as these politicians age and learn? Because current political climate is all about tribalism, with nuance and personal reflection and growth being seen as a weakness and "against the tribe". --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:982515540] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>I understand why recent flip flopping is crucified, like Trump flipping on abortion within literally 24 hours a few weeks ago, but why is something like Kamala Harris wanting to legalize weed in 2024 seen as fake or pandering because she was a DA who prosecuted weed crimes years ago? Hell Obama didnt even necessarily agree with same sex marriage when he took office and get it was enshrined under his term. At what point are such changes just allowed to be genuine stance changes as these politicians age and learn?</quote>Because current political climate is all about tribalism, with nuance and personal reflection and growth being seen as a weakness and "against the tribe". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 10/13/24 7:53:19 PM #5:	Lying isn't changing stances --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:982515546] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Lying isn't changing stances</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 10/13/24 7:54:12 PM #6:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... Hes a snake who does whatever is beneficial to him, and quickly shrunk back down when his base went nuclear over it. You just explained why: bad actors. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:982515555] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>Hes a snake who does whatever is beneficial to him, and quickly shrunk back down when his base went nuclear over it.</quote>You just explained why: bad actors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlleyViper620 10/13/24 7:55:11 PM #7:	Numerous psychological studies have shown that people subconsciously value consistency, even more than accuracy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistency_(negotiation) --- This space intentionally left blank. <cite>AlleyViper620 posted [p:982515571] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Numerous psychological studies have shown that people subconsciously value consistency, even more than accuracy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistency_(negotiation) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 10/13/24 7:57:50 PM #8:	Irony posted... Lying isn't changing stances --- DEBO ERA "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:982515602] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Lying isn't changing stances</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 10/13/24 7:58:21 PM #9:	AlleyViper620 posted... Numerous psychological studies have shown that people subconsciously value consistency, even more than accuracy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistency_(negotiation) Interesting. So we are more likely to accept a consistent stance than a changed one even if the newer stance is better? --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:982515612] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>AlleyViper620 posted... </cite><quote>Numerous psychological studies have shown that people subconsciously value consistency, even more than accuracy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistency_(negotiation)</quote>Interesting. So we are more likely to accept a consistent stance than a changed one even if the newer stance is better? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 10/13/24 8:00:10 PM #10:	Irony posted... Lying isn't changing stances I mean whether he lied or not, he verifiably said he was gonna do one thing and then said he was actually gonna do the other within a day. For all intents and purposes he showed that he will not commit to something the second he receives pressure. If his base wasnt in a cult it shouldve been eye opening. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:982515632] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Lying isn't changing stances</quote>I mean whether he lied or not, he verifiably said he was gonna do one thing and then said he was actually gonna do the other within a day. For all intents and purposes he showed that he will not commit to something the second he receives pressure. If his base wasnt in a cult it shouldve been eye opening. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 10/13/24 8:58:08 PM #11:	AlleyViper620 posted... Numerous psychological studies have shown that people subconsciously value consistency, even more than accuracy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistency_(negotiation) I mean, I'd like to believe that, but then we have Trump neck in neck with literally anybody else. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:982516330] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>AlleyViper620 posted... </cite><quote>Numerous psychological studies have shown that people subconsciously value consistency, even more than accuracy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistency_(negotiation)</quote>I mean, I'd like to believe that, but then we have Trump neck in neck with literally anybody else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kamil 10/13/24 9:04:53 PM #12:	Tbf Trump's current wife is pro choice. But I regret posting in this topic but when you are supposed to be a figurehead of a democracy it's not good to change your tune. I don't think Trump will benefit anyone again. He had his shot. I liked the idea of the maverick then. --- "A lesser talent couldn't have pulled it off. But I'm willing to bet on BoJack Horseman. Are you?" ~~Cuddlywhiskers on the new show <cite>Kamil posted [p:982516407] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Tbf Trump's current wife is pro choice. But I regret posting in this topic but when you are supposed to be a figurehead of a democracy it's not good to change your tune. I don't think Trump will benefit anyone again. He had his shot. I liked the idea of the maverick then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 10/13/24 9:05:59 PM #13:	Irony posted... Lying isn't changing stances It's worse. But good attempt on the smoke bomb distraction. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:982516420] in Why is cha... [t:80865019]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Lying isn't changing stances</quote>It's worse.But good attempt on the smoke bomb distraction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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