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HylianFox 11/22/24 8:06:05 PM #1:	https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/house-passes-bill-that-could-designate-lgbtq-groups-as-terrorist-organizations/ Donald Trump would have power to declare LGBTQ+ orgs are terrorist under new House bill On Thursday, the United States House of Representatives passed a bill that would give authority to the Treasury Department to revoke a 501c non-profits tax-exempt status if theyre believed to support terrorism. House Resolution 9495, also known as the Stop Terror-Financing and Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act, was sponsored by Rep. Tenney Claudia (R-NY) and passed through the house in a 219184 vote. It has gone through multiple different forms since it was initially introduced in response to pro-Palestine organizers in the wake of the October 7, 2023 attack on Israel. According to anthropologist and legal scholar Darryl Li, who spoke to Democracy Now, this bill exists exclusively as a means for the right-wing to crush their political opponents, especially those who advocate for the rights of Palestinians, who were recently found by the International Criminal Court to be victims of war crimes enacted by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. This bill is essentially a civil rights disaster, that would allow the government to shut down nonprofits on the smear of being terrorist-supporting organizations. This law requires an accusation with no evidence, but a tie-in. Its an accusation that nonprofits are supporting a group on one of the existing international terrorism lists The bill is essentially discriminatory by design, he said. Initially, it did have significant bipartisan support, because, of course, anti-Palestinian racism is one of the great bipartisan unifiers in Congress. Rep. Jason Smith (R-MO) justified the bill as a plain way to defund terrorism. We, as members of Congress, have the duty to make sure that taxpayers are not subsidizing terrorism. Its very, very simple, he said on the House floor. Smith didnt provide evidence that any major U.S. non-profit group has ever supported terrorism. Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), the only Palestinian-American in Congress, said of the bill, I dont care who the president of the United States is. This is a dangerous and unconstitutional bill that would allow unchecked power to target nonprofit organizations as political enemies and shut them down without due process. The bill doesnt just pose a danger to advocates for war refugees trapped in Gaza, but also possibly to LGBTQ+ nonprofits as well. As the Trump-Vance campaign spent record numbers on anti-trans ad spending, it is increasingly likely that they could use this bill as a pretense to attack the many nonprofits that advocate for LGBTQ+ individuals. Li details that this could be the case for just about anyone who is a political opponent of the ruling administration. With the efforts of civil society groups to ring the alarm and educate members of Congress about the dangers of this bill, not only for Palestine advocacy, but broadly, for any number of causes, and, of course, with the election of Donald Trump, more and more Democrats have awoken to the danger, he said. Rep. Pramila Jayapal, the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, agrees that this could be used to attack anyone who is a political opponent. This bill is an authoritarian play by Republicans to expand the sweeping powers of the executive branch, to go after political enemies and stifle political dissent, she said on the House floor. Li says it is extremely unlikely for the bill to harm any right-wing conservative groups, who are often the ones lobbying terrorism accusations at their political opponents. Right-wingers and white supremacists in Congress can support this bill, with the assurance that their allies, right-wing extremist groups, are highly, highly unlikely to ever be targeted by this bill, because there isnt going to its much less likely that they will be smeared with an accusation of being tied to an international terrorist organization thats already on one of the government lists, Li said. Groups that could be on the chopping block with this bill include the American Civil Liberties Union, Planned Parenthood, the Human Rights Campaign, as well as nonprofit news outlets like Mother Jones or ProPublica. Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) further agrees that the bill could be extremely authoritarian depending on how it is implemented, especially in the wake of Trumps election. Authoritarianism is not born overnight it creeps in, Doggett said. A tyrant tightens his grip not just by seizing power but when he demands new powers and when those who can stop him willingly cede and bend to his will. Still, opponents of the bill hold out hope that it can be rightfully opposed and defeated in the Senate where it will need 60 votes to become law Democrats have a slim majority in the chamber, though Republicans will hold a 53-seat majority in the 100-member chamber starting in January. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) said on BlueSky that activists reaching out to their representatives played a significant role in reducing the bills support in the House. Was there today for the H.R. 9495 vote (bill that would have allowed labeling nonprofits as terrorist supporting organizations). Voted no, of course but I do want to report that the activism DID work and persuaded members. I thought itd be a lonely NO vote, which we take often. It wasnt. In comparison, a similar bill was brought up before the House earlier this year. There was much less organizing against it and it got further then. Todays vote was a very different story. The attention + organizing played a role. If you can thank your rep for voting NO, please do so. It matters. "Always accuse the opposition of that which you are guilty." --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:983044729] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/house-passes-bill-that-could-designate-lgbtq-groups-as-terrorist-organizations/<quote>Donald Trump would have power to declare LGBTQ+ orgs are terrorist under new House billOn Thursday, the United States House of Representatives passed a bill that would give authority to the Treasury Department to revoke a 501c non-profits tax-exempt status if theyre believed to support terrorism.House Resolution 9495, also known as the Stop Terror-Financing and Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act, was sponsored by Rep. Tenney Claudia (R-NY) and passed through the house in a 219184 vote. It has gone through multiple different forms since it was initially introduced in response to pro-Palestine organizers in the wake of the October 7, 2023 attack on Israel.According to anthropologist and legal scholar Darryl Li, who spoke to Democracy Now, this bill exists exclusively as a means for the right-wing to crush their political opponents, especially those who advocate for the rights of Palestinians, who were recently found by the International Criminal Court to be victims of war crimes enacted by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.This bill is essentially a civil rights disaster, that would allow the government to shut down nonprofits on the smear of being terrorist-supporting organizations. This law requires an accusation with no evidence, but a tie-in. Its an accusation that nonprofits are supporting a group on one of the existing international terrorism lists The bill is essentially discriminatory by design, he said. Initially, it did have significant bipartisan support, because, of course, anti-Palestinian racism is one of the great bipartisan unifiers in Congress.Rep. Jason Smith (R-MO) justified the bill as a plain way to defund terrorism. We, as members of Congress, have the duty to make sure that taxpayers are not subsidizing terrorism. Its very, very simple, he said on the House floor. Smith didnt provide evidence that any major U.S. non-profit group has ever supported terrorism.Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), the only Palestinian-American in Congress, said of the bill, I dont care who the president of the United States is. This is a dangerous and unconstitutional bill that would allow unchecked power to target nonprofit organizations as political enemies and shut them down without due process.The bill doesnt just pose a danger to advocates for war refugees trapped in Gaza, but also possibly to LGBTQ+ nonprofits as well. As the Trump-Vance campaign spent record numbers on anti-trans ad spending, it is increasingly likely that they could use this bill as a pretense to attack the many nonprofits that advocate for LGBTQ+ individuals. Li details that this could be the case for just about anyone who is a political opponent of the ruling administration.With the efforts of civil society groups to ring the alarm and educate members of Congress about the dangers of this bill, not only for Palestine advocacy, but broadly, for any number of causes, and, of course, with the election of Donald Trump, more and more Democrats have awoken to the danger, he said.Rep. Pramila Jayapal, the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, agrees that this could be used to attack anyone who is a political opponent. This bill is an authoritarian play by Republicans to expand the sweeping powers of the executive branch, to go after political enemies and stifle political dissent, she said on the House floor.Li says it is extremely unlikely for the bill to harm any right-wing conservative groups, who are often the ones lobbying terrorism accusations at their political opponents.Right-wingers and white supremacists in Congress can support this bill, with the assurance that their allies, right-wing extremist groups, are highly, highly unlikely to ever be targeted by this bill, because there isnt going to its much less likely that they will be smeared with an accusation of being tied to an international terrorist organization thats already on one of the government lists, Li said.Groups that could be on the chopping block with this bill include the American Civil Liberties Union, Planned Parenthood, the Human Rights Campaign, as well as nonprofit news outlets like Mother Jones or ProPublica.Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) further agrees that the bill could be extremely authoritarian depending on how it is implemented, especially in the wake of Trumps election.Authoritarianism is not born overnight it creeps in, Doggett said. A tyrant tightens his grip not just by seizing power but when he demands new powers and when those who can stop him willingly cede and bend to his will.Still, opponents of the bill hold out hope that it can be rightfully opposed and defeated in the Senate where it will need 60 votes to become law Democrats have a slim majority in the chamber, though Republicans will hold a 53-seat majority in the 100-member chamber starting in January.Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) said on BlueSky that activists reaching out to their representatives played a significant role in reducing the bills support in the House.Was there today for the H.R. 9495 vote (bill that would have allowed labeling nonprofits as terrorist supporting organizations). Voted no, of course but I do want to report that the activism DID work and persuaded members. I thought itd be a lonely NO vote, which we take often. It wasnt.In comparison, a similar bill was brought up before the House earlier this year. There was much less organizing against it and it got further then. Todays vote was a very different story. The attention + organizing played a role. If you can thank your rep for voting NO, please do so. It matters.</quote>"Always accuse the opposition of that which you are guilty."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 8:13:46 PM #2:	I dont think it will pass the senate, but jesus fucking christ. All of these dems need to be ousted immediately. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983044794] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>I dont think it will pass the senate, but jesus fucking christ. All of these dems need to be ousted immediately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 11/22/24 8:17:23 PM #4:	Sounds like what Russia does already. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:983044826] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like what Russia does already. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkbuster 11/22/24 8:22:37 PM #5:	Two months before he even takes office, & the part of my "empathy circuit" that was processing Trump BS is already burnt out. There's no way I can tank another 4 years of his presidency without falling into multiple bouts of apathy. --- Remember kids, it's only an RPG until someone gets hit with a meteor; Then it's a JRPG! SSBB: 3869 0521 7142 <cite>darkbuster posted [p:983044868] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Two months before he even takes office, & the part of my "empathy circuit" that was processing Trump BS is already burnt out. There's no way I can tank another 4 years of his presidency without falling into multiple bouts of apathy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 8:25:49 PM #6:	darkbuster posted... Two months before he even takes office, & the part of my "empathy circuit" that was processing Trump BS is already burnt out. There's no way I can tank another 4 years of his presidency without falling into multiple bouts of apathy. I used to be empathetic to a fault, really fucked up some of my years making judgements based on empathy to people. I literally feel none of that now. May be a coping tactic, but I haven't even felt a single instance of empathy since he won again. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983044904] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>darkbuster posted... </cite><quote>Two months before he even takes office, & the part of my "empathy circuit" that was processing Trump BS is already burnt out. There's no way I can tank another 4 years of his presidency without falling into multiple bouts of apathy.</quote>I used to be empathetic to a fault, really fucked up some of my years making judgements based on empathy to people. I literally feel none of that now. May be a coping tactic, but I haven't even felt a single instance of empathy since he won again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 11/22/24 8:26:22 PM #7:	Un-fucking-believable this is even talked about, let alone being passed in any branches. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:983044911] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Un-fucking-believable this is even talked about, let alone being passed in any branches.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 11/22/24 8:26:24 PM #8:	I've given up entirely on the Democratic party, those useless gutless motherfuckiers seem completely fine with screwing everybody over right along with Republicans as long as the money flows and their critics are forced to shut up or suffer. So what the hell do we even do? The courts won't save us, they're stacked with Republican judges, the legal system won't save us, they bent over backwards for Donald Trump every step of the way, the people themselves won't save us, give them somebody to look down on and villain and that's more than enough to get their support. --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:983044912] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>I've given up entirely on the Democratic party, those useless gutless motherfuckiers seem completely fine with screwing everybody over right along with Republicans as long as the money flows and their critics are forced to shut up or suffer. So what the hell do we even do? The courts won't save us, they're stacked with Republican judges, the legal system won't save us, they bent over backwards for Donald Trump every step of the way, the people themselves won't save us, give them somebody to look down on and villain and that's more than enough to get their support. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 11/22/24 8:31:13 PM #9:	Sayoria posted... Un-fucking-believable this is even talked about, let alone being passed in any branches. This. America is dead. --- I'm pretty done, slap me 'round for fun. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:983044968] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite><quote>Un-fucking-believable this is even talked about, let alone being passed in any branches.</quote>This. America is dead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 11/22/24 8:33:48 PM #10:	HylianFox posted... this bill exists exclusively as a means for the right-wing to crush their political opponents, especially those who advocate for the rights of Palestinians, Guess those protests done to Kamala won't be done to Trump <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:983044989] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>this bill exists exclusively as a means for the right-wing to crush their political opponents, especially those who advocate for the rights of Palestinians,</quote>Guess those protests done to Kamala won't be done to Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 11/22/24 8:36:22 PM #11:	HylianFox posted... Rep. Jason Smith (R-MO) justified the bill as a plain way to defund terrorism. We, as members of Congress, have the duty to make sure that taxpayers are not subsidizing terrorism. Its very, very simple, he said on the House floor. Smith didnt provide evidence that any major U.S. non-profit group has ever supported terrorism. These assclowns are literally pure evil in human form. We are seriously one of the worst countries in the world now. We've gone from a shining light on the hill to a vile cesspool of garbage in the sewer. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:983045018] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>Rep. Jason Smith (R-MO) justified the bill as a plain way to defund terrorism. We, as members of Congress, have the duty to make sure that taxpayers are not subsidizing terrorism. Its very, very simple, he said on the House floor.Smith didnt provide evidence that any major U.S. non-profit group has ever supported terrorism.</quote>These assclowns are literally pure evil in human form. We are seriously one of the worst countries in the world now. We've gone from a shining light on the hill to a vile cesspool of garbage in the sewer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rharyx211 11/22/24 8:36:50 PM #12:	This is fuckin ridiculous. They just keep up inventing new ways to be as frighteningly evil as possible. --- Watch our "BLEACH Can't Fear Your Own World" full fandub: https://youtu.be/a2s_RdYM_pE?si=5kHTTbvJX4CY8Zk8 <cite>Rharyx211 posted [p:983045024] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>This is fuckin ridiculous.They just keep up inventing new ways to be as frighteningly evil as possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 11/22/24 8:51:34 PM #13:	GOP senator introduces bill to legally erase transgender people He said he has delivered babies, which proves that no one is actually transgender, somehow. https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-legally-erase-transgender-people/ The Nazis are speedrunning 1930's Germany. They started with LGBTQ too. <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:983045194] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>GOP senator introduces bill to legally erase transgender peopleHe said he has delivered babies, which proves that no one is actually transgender, somehow.https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-legally-erase-transgender-people/The Nazis are speedrunning 1930's Germany. They started with LGBTQ too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeTigre 11/22/24 8:57:09 PM #14:	Rexdragon125 posted... GOP senator introduces bill to legally erase transgender people He said he has delivered babies, which proves that no one is actually transgender, somehow. https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-legally-erase-transgender-people/ The Nazis are speedrunning 1930's Germany. They started with LGBTQ too. Theyve been doing this for decades; none of you just ever bothered to listen to us. :) --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983045237] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Rexdragon125 posted... </cite><quote>GOP senator introduces bill to legally erase transgender peopleHe said he has delivered babies, which proves that no one is actually transgender, somehow.https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-legally-erase-transgender-people/The Nazis are speedrunning 1930's Germany. They started with LGBTQ too.</quote>Theyve been doing this for decades; none of you just ever bothered to listen to us. :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 11/22/24 8:57:14 PM #15:	HylianFox posted... Still, opponents of the bill hold out hope that it can be rightfully opposed and defeated in the Senate where it will need 60 votes to become law The filibuster is not in the constitution, it's a self-imposed rule that the Senate has and the Senate can get rid of it. So why exactly do people keep on thinking the Dems are going to be able to stop this? If Republicans want this through they can push it through and nothing the Dems can do about it. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:983045240] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>Still, opponents of the bill hold out hope that it can be rightfully opposed and defeated in the Senate where it will need 60 votes to become law</quote>The filibuster is not in the constitution, it's a self-imposed rule that the Senate has and the Senate can get rid of it. So why exactly do people keep on thinking the Dems are going to be able to stop this? If Republicans want this through they can push it through and nothing the Dems can do about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 11/22/24 9:25:00 PM #16:	Rexdragon125 posted... GOP senator introduces bill to legally erase transgender people He said he has delivered babies, which proves that no one is actually transgender, somehow. https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-legally-erase-transgender-people/ The Nazis are speedrunning 1930's Germany. They started with LGBTQ too. I'm fully expecting them try to round me up next year, --- I'm pretty done, slap me 'round for fun. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:983045529] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Rexdragon125 posted... </cite><quote>GOP senator introduces bill to legally erase transgender peopleHe said he has delivered babies, which proves that no one is actually transgender, somehow.https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/11/gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-legally-erase-transgender-people/The Nazis are speedrunning 1930's Germany. They started with LGBTQ too.</quote>I'm fully expecting them try to round me up next year, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeTigre 11/22/24 9:30:36 PM #17:	GrandConjuraton posted... I'm fully expecting them try to round me up next year, your birth records are state files under state laws. the entirety of your existence to the federal government relies on self reporting. This is just playing the media circus to make you afraid; please dont take their bait. --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983045596] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>I'm fully expecting them try to round me up next year, </quote>your birth records are state files under state laws. the entirety of your existence to the federal government relies on self reporting. This is just playing the media circus to make you afraid; please dont take their bait. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 9:33:26 PM #18:	LeTigre posted... your birth records are state files under state laws. the entirety of your existence to the federal government relies on self reporting. This is just playing the media circus to make you afraid; please dont take their bait. ah yes, the media. not the literal government saying these things --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983045624] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>LeTigre posted... </cite><quote>your birth records are state files under state laws. the entirety of your existence to the federal government relies on self reporting. This is just playing the media circus to make you afraid; please dont take their bait.</quote>ah yes, the media. not the literal government saying these things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 11/22/24 9:35:58 PM #19:	LeTigre posted... your birth records are state files under state laws. the entirety of your existence to the federal government relies on self reporting. This is just playing the media circus to make you afraid; please dont take their bait. I've had my legal name and legal gender changed in social security, so I'm not exactly an unknown in federal records. --- I'm pretty done, slap me 'round for fun. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:983045648] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>LeTigre posted... </cite><quote>your birth records are state files under state laws. the entirety of your existence to the federal government relies on self reporting. This is just playing the media circus to make you afraid; please dont take their bait.</quote>I've had my legal name and legal gender changed in social security, so I'm not exactly an unknown in federal records. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLiarParadox 11/22/24 9:36:39 PM #20:	Sandalorn posted... We've gone from a shining light on the hill to a vile cesspool of garbage in the sewer. Don't kid yourself. This country was always a vile cesspool. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. <cite>TheLiarParadox posted [p:983045663] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>We've gone from a shining light on the hill to a vile cesspool of garbage in the sewer.</quote>Don't kid yourself. This country was always a vile cesspool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeTigre 11/22/24 9:46:37 PM #21:	metralo posted... ah yes, the media. not the literal government saying these things yeah its almost like thats how propaganda works. GrandConjuraton posted... I've had my legal name and legal gender changed in social security, so I'm not exactly an unknown in federal records. There are literally thousands of name changes within social security every day, and gender mistakes on their registration are changed all the time. There isnt any burden of proof that can be used against you. There is a lot of things to be scared about as a trans person. This isnt one of them. Its to scare you so you shut up, go into hiding or leave. Weve done it to every minority group. --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983045762] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>metralo posted... </cite><quote>ah yes, the media. not the literal government saying these things</quote>yeah its almost like thats how propaganda works. GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>I've had my legal name and legal gender changed in social security, so I'm not exactly an unknown in federal records.</quote>There are literally thousands of name changes within social security every day, and gender mistakes on their registration are changed all the time. There isnt any burden of proof that can be used against you. There is a lot of things to be scared about as a trans person. This isnt one of them. Its to scare you so you shut up, go into hiding or leave. Weve done it to every minority group. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 9:47:51 PM #22:	lol alright. i'll be pinging you relentlessly in a few months. hope you can defend yourself for defending the absolutely disgusting actions. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983045775] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>lol alright. i'll be pinging you relentlessly in a few months. hope you can defend yourself for defending the absolutely disgusting actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeTigre 11/22/24 9:48:58 PM #23:	metralo posted... lol alright. i'll be pinging you relentlessly in a few months. hope you can defend yourself for defending the absolutely disgusting actions. lol okay feel free to bully one of the most out trans people on this board for having a basic understanding of how bad actors work. edit: like, if you think Im defending this shit youre out of your mind. but I am absolutely sick of people who dont give a shit about us, didnt listen to us when we told them exactly what was going to happen, dont acknowledge us and constantly talk over us now use us as a token to justify their paranoia. --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983045784] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>metralo posted... </cite><quote>lol alright. i'll be pinging you relentlessly in a few months. hope you can defend yourself for defending the absolutely disgusting actions.</quote>lol okay feel free to bully one of the most out trans people on this board for having a basic understanding of how bad actors work. edit: like, if you think Im defending this shit youre out of your mind. but I am absolutely sick of people who dont give a shit about us, didnt listen to us when we told them exactly what was going to happen, dont acknowledge us and constantly talk over us now use us as a token to justify their paranoia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 9:54:09 PM #24:	well you'll be super safe so whats to worry? trump will be totally cool LeTigre posted... but I am absolutely sick of people who dont give a shit about us, didnt listen to us when we told them exactly what was going to happen, dont acknowledge us and constantly talk over us now use us as a token to justify their paranoia. guess we're in the same boat. been frantic since trump won for very similar reasons! seeing someone say well it wont be that bad and getting pissed off --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983045829] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>well you'll be super safe so whats to worry? trump will be totally coolLeTigre posted... </cite><quote>but I am absolutely sick of people who dont give a shit about us, didnt listen to us when we told them exactly what was going to happen, dont acknowledge us and constantly talk over us now use us as a token to justify their paranoia.</quote>guess we're in the same boat. been frantic since trump won for very similar reasons! seeing someone say well it wont be that bad and getting pissed off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeTigre 11/22/24 9:56:24 PM #26:	metralo posted... well you'll be super safe so whats to worry? trump will be totally cool guess we're in the same boat. been frantic since trump won for very similar reasons! seeing someone say well it wont be that bad and getting pissed off Glad to see you totally missed my point if you started after Trump won. --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983045858] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>metralo posted... </cite><quote>well you'll be super safe so whats to worry? trump will be totally coolguess we're in the same boat. been frantic since trump won for very similar reasons! seeing someone say well it wont be that bad and getting pissed off</quote>Glad to see you totally missed my point if you started after Trump won. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmanOn4life 11/22/24 9:56:50 PM #27:	SO.... How will that tackle gas, eggs and milk?? Fuckin Maga idiots.. I hate them so much. --- Welcome to #theCLAPhouse https://theclaphouse.com/home <cite>EmanOn4life posted [p:983045863] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>SO.... How will that tackle gas, eggs and milk?? Fuckin Maga idiots.. I hate them so much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 11/22/24 10:00:54 PM #28:	metralo posted... ah yes, the media. not the literal government saying these things Yeah the amount of cope I've been seeing about how a lot of what the Republicans want to do being just fear mongering or propaganda or whatever is ridiculous They've got all 3 branches, they're not just blowing smoke or posturing --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:983045920] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>metralo posted... </cite><quote>ah yes, the media. not the literal government saying these things</quote>Yeah the amount of cope I've been seeing about how a lot of what the Republicans want to do being just fear mongering or propaganda or whatever is ridiculous They've got all 3 branches, they're not just blowing smoke or posturing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 10:01:43 PM #29:	LeTigre posted... Glad to see you totally missed my point if you started after Trump won. I did not. I have been panicking ever since I heard of P2025. I drove many people to vote for harris. I did all in my power to do so. Now that we will have no elections, well. Its over I suppose. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983045937] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>LeTigre posted... </cite><quote>Glad to see you totally missed my point if you started after Trump won.</quote>I did not. I have been panicking ever since I heard of P2025. I drove many people to vote for harris. I did all in my power to do so. Now that we will have no elections, well. Its over I suppose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 11/22/24 10:02:27 PM #30:	Gwynevere posted... Yeah the amount of cope I've been seeing about how a lot of what the Republicans want to do being just fear mongering or propaganda or whatever is ridiculous They've got all 3 branches, they're not just blowing smoke or posturing People like Tigre are gonna be taken by surprise when worst comes to worst, I fear... --- I'm pretty done, slap me 'round for fun. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:983045942] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Yeah the amount of cope I've been seeing about how a lot of what the Republicans want to do being just fear mongering or propaganda or whatever is ridiculous They've got all 3 branches, they're not just blowing smoke or posturing</quote>People like Tigre are gonna be taken by surprise when worst comes to worst, I fear...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 10:03:04 PM #31:	"What? The military forced raids of my house wouldnt effect me, would it??" --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983045947] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>"What? The military forced raids of my house wouldnt effect me, would it??"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeTigre 11/22/24 10:04:03 PM #32:	metralo posted... I did not. I have been panicking ever since I heard of P2025. I drove many people to vote for harris. I did all in my power to do so. Now that we will have no elections, well. Its over I suppose. oh, so again; long after the GOP started targeting us. You want to claim outrage but you supported someone who couldnt even comment on us deserving healthcare, and who readily allied with the people trying to keep us out of rest rooms in 2016. Youre not mad because trans people are being targeted. Youre mad because your team lost. --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983045954] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>metralo posted... </cite><quote>I did not. I have been panicking ever since I heard of P2025. I drove many people to vote for harris. I did all in my power to do so. Now that we will have no elections, well. Its over I suppose.</quote>oh, so again; long after the GOP started targeting us. You want to claim outrage but you supported someone who couldnt even comment on us deserving healthcare, and who readily allied with the people trying to keep us out of rest rooms in 2016. Youre not mad because trans people are being targeted. Youre mad because your team lost. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/22/24 10:09:29 PM #34:	..... lmfao alright --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:983046006] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>..... lmfao alright </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 11/22/24 10:19:23 PM #35:	GrandConjuraton posted... People like Tigre are gonna be taken by surprise when worst comes to worst, I fear... I've seen this oddly pervasive notion that Democrats and Republicans are both bad for trans people, and while I feel like Democrats often don't do quite enough for my liking, it's also true that blue states have the most protections in place while Republican dominated areas are passing the worst of the laws. I think a lot of people are gonna be blindsided by just how bad things can potentially get. --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:983046094] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>People like Tigre are gonna be taken by surprise when worst comes to worst, I fear...</quote>I've seen this oddly pervasive notion that Democrats and Republicans are both bad for trans people, and while I feel like Democrats often don't do quite enough for my liking, it's also true that blue states have the most protections in place while Republican dominated areas are passing the worst of the laws. I think a lot of people are gonna be blindsided by just how bad things can potentially get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 11/22/24 10:20:27 PM #36:	Gwynevere posted... I've seen this oddly pervasive notion that Democrats and Republicans are both bad for trans people, and while I feel like Democrats often don't do quite enough for my liking, it's also true that blue states have the most protections in place while Republican dominated areas are passing the worst of the laws. I think a lot of people are gonna be blindsided by just how bad things can potentially get. This idea that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans really needs to die for good. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:983046104] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>I've seen this oddly pervasive notion that Democrats and Republicans are both bad for trans people, and while I feel like Democrats often don't do quite enough for my liking, it's also true that blue states have the most protections in place while Republican dominated areas are passing the worst of the laws. I think a lot of people are gonna be blindsided by just how bad things can potentially get.</quote>This idea that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans really needs to die for good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 11/22/24 10:28:08 PM #37:	I'm sure it's more likely going to target pro- Palestinians groups than pro LGBT ones. Now it's still horrible beyond belief but let's just focus on it's first evil purpose for now. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala <cite>creativerealms posted [p:983046172] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure it's more likely going to target pro- Palestinians groups than pro LGBT ones. Now it's still horrible beyond belief but let's just focus on it's first evil purpose for now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 11/22/24 10:32:52 PM #38:	creativerealms posted... I'm sure it's more likely going to target pro- Palestinians groups than pro LGBT ones. It's going to be used to target SO MUCH more than pro-Palestinian and pro-LGBTQ+ groups. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:983046218] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>I'm sure it's more likely going to target pro- Palestinians groups than pro LGBT ones.</quote>It's going to be used to target SO MUCH more than pro-Palestinian and pro-LGBTQ+ groups.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 11/22/24 10:40:33 PM #39:	creativerealms posted... I'm sure it's more likely going to target pro- Palestinians groups than pro LGBT ones. Now it's still horrible beyond belief but let's just focus on it's first evil purpose for now. You sweet summer child. --- I'm pretty done, slap me 'round for fun. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:983046282] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>I'm sure it's more likely going to target pro- Palestinians groups than pro LGBT ones. Now it's still horrible beyond belief but let's just focus on it's first evil purpose for now.</quote>You sweet summer child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/22/24 10:50:41 PM #40:	Always annoyed that people kept bitching that Democrats shouldnt pass stuff cause Republicans can use it for evil, Republicans need no help being fucking evil and will do it regardless. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:983046386] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Always annoyed that people kept bitching that Democrats shouldnt pass stuff cause Republicans can use it for evil, Republicans need no help being fucking evil and will do it regardless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 11/22/24 10:51:38 PM #41:	Planned Parenthood is fucked --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:983046395] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Planned Parenthood is fucked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 11/22/24 10:55:06 PM #42:	Euripides posted... Planned Parenthood is fucked Fuck --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:983046426] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>Planned Parenthood is fucked</quote>Fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frosted_Midna 11/22/24 10:56:04 PM #43:	So our 2nd Amendment, wasn't it suppose to be used against our government when they get too out of hand? --- It's more than good, it's alive! Warning: May contain stone hat pieces http://i.imgur.com/N6v5qZx.jpg <cite>Frosted_Midna posted [p:983046433] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>So our 2nd Amendment, wasn't it suppose to be used against our government when they get too out of hand?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 11/22/24 10:58:24 PM #44:	I know it's obviously not a 'non profit', but can we declare the filthy gop a terrorist organization at this point? I mean, that's basically all they are now. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:983046450] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>I know it's obviously not a 'non profit', but can we declare the filthy gop a terrorist organization at this point? I mean, that's basically all they are now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeTigre 11/22/24 11:02:28 PM #46:	Euripides posted... Planned Parenthood is fucked Can you explain your reason as to why you'd think this? This legislation revokes the non-profit tax status of any nonprofit suspected of terrorist ties. Even if it was targeted; Planned Parenthood is a massive organization that has been preparing for decades as its funding has been repeatedly threatened by both Republicans and Democrats. This legislation doesn't include anything about stopping said organizations from operating. Planned Parenthood is most certainly positioned to still provide care while paying taxes, should that be what happens. --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983046481] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>Planned Parenthood is fucked</quote>Can you explain your reason as to why you'd think this?This legislation revokes the non-profit tax status of any nonprofit suspected of terrorist ties.Even if it was targeted; Planned Parenthood is a massive organization that has been preparing for decades as its funding has been repeatedly threatened by both Republicans and Democrats.This legislation doesn't include anything about stopping said organizations from operating. Planned Parenthood is most certainly positioned to still provide care while paying taxes, should that be what happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 11/22/24 11:05:46 PM #47:	LeTigre posted... Can you explain your reason as to why you'd think this? This legislation revokes the non-profit tax status of any nonprofit suspected of terrorist ties. Even if it was targeted; Planned Parenthood is a massive organization that has been preparing for decades as its funding has been repeatedly threatened by both Republicans and Democrats. This legislation doesn't include anything about stopping said organizations from operating. Planned Parenthood is most certainly positioned to still provide care while paying taxes, should that be what happens. The GOP will call it a terrorist organization against the unborn or something. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:983046516] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>LeTigre posted... </cite><quote>Can you explain your reason as to why you'd think this?This legislation revokes the non-profit tax status of any nonprofit suspected of terrorist ties.Even if it was targeted; Planned Parenthood is a massive organization that has been preparing for decades as its funding has been repeatedly threatened by both Republicans and Democrats.This legislation doesn't include anything about stopping said organizations from operating. Planned Parenthood is most certainly positioned to still provide care while paying taxes, should that be what happens.</quote>The GOP will call it a terrorist organization against the unborn or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 11/22/24 11:06:13 PM #48:	LeTigre posted... Can you explain your reason as to why you'd think this? This legislation revokes the non-profit tax status of any nonprofit suspected of terrorist ties. Even if it was targeted; Planned Parenthood is a massive organization that has been preparing for decades as its funding has been repeatedly threatened by both Republicans and Democrats. This legislation doesn't include anything about stopping said organizations from operating. Planned Parenthood is most certainly positioned to still provide care while paying taxes, should that be what happens. Because the President declaring your a terrorist organization (or terrorist sympathizer) is incredibly damaging, even if that President is a fucking idiot --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:983046519] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>LeTigre posted... </cite><quote>Can you explain your reason as to why you'd think this?This legislation revokes the non-profit tax status of any nonprofit suspected of terrorist ties.Even if it was targeted; Planned Parenthood is a massive organization that has been preparing for decades as its funding has been repeatedly threatened by both Republicans and Democrats.This legislation doesn't include anything about stopping said organizations from operating. Planned Parenthood is most certainly positioned to still provide care while paying taxes, should that be what happens.</quote>Because the President declaring your a terrorist organization (or terrorist sympathizer) is incredibly damaging, even if that President is a fucking idiot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeTigre 11/22/24 11:08:52 PM #49:	Euripides posted... Because the President declaring your a terrorist organization (or terrorist sympathizer) is incredibly damaging, even if that President is a fucking idiot ...this isn't about allowing the President to declare anything a terrorist organization or a sympathizer though. Like, they can already do that. And have about Planned Parenthood, specifically. --- The world's a mess and yr my only cure (formerly BrohammedAli) <cite>LeTigre posted [p:983046538] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>Because the President declaring your a terrorist organization (or terrorist sympathizer) is incredibly damaging, even if that President is a fucking idiot</quote>...this isn't about allowing the President to declare anything a terrorist organization or a sympathizer though.Like, they can already do that. And have about Planned Parenthood, specifically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 11/22/24 11:15:22 PM #50:	Trump supporters and protest voters who need these non-profits had better NOT complain about this. They helped bring this about and should be reminded of it 24/7. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:983046588] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Trump supporters and protest voters who need these non-profits had better NOT complain about this. They helped bring this about and should be reminded of it 24/7.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 11/22/24 11:30:22 PM #51:	Humble_Novice posted... This idea that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans really needs to die for good. Agreed. Even within a red state, I can at least find nondiscrimination protections in the deep blue counties/cities. That's a good showcase of why local elections can be so important, they can save your ass in a pinch. --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:983046714] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>This idea that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans really needs to die for good.</quote>Agreed. Even within a red state, I can at least find nondiscrimination protections in the deep blue counties/cities. That's a good showcase of why local elections can be so important, they can save your ass in a pinch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 11/23/24 1:00:50 PM #52:	bump --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:983051479] in House pass... [t:80889903]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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