Board 8 > which one is the good one again, Outer Worlds or Outer Wilds

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I just got Outer Worlds for free from twitch but I dont know if that's the one thats actually good or not

Both are considered good

Outer Worlds is the Obsidian RPG
Outer Wilds is the Mobius time-looping puzzle adventure

Outer Wilds is "the good one" you've heard about. Outer Worlds is considered good too but Outer Wilds is "the good one".

wilds

Outer Wilds is the one that everyone won't shut up about but also won't tell you anything about (it's my favorite game of all time btw)

The Outer Worlds (it has a the on the front unlike Outer Wilds) is an RPG that people consider to be very good but isn't as list-topping as the other game

The Outer Worlds is a fantastic game.

Outer Wilds is my favorite game of all-time.

What everyone else said! Worlds is a solid if not particularly groundbreaking WRPG from Obsidian, a perfectly serviceable adventure. Wilds is a unique gaming experience that many, myself included, find transcendental. Though both games have their detractors, Wilds is 'The Good One' you'll have heard about.

Yeah that tracks I heard it was a "transcendental" kind of game..I'll hold off on the free one for now then ty

Reminds me of when I wanted to play Path of Exile but I downloaded Pillars of Eternity instead and was like... this is not what I thought the game was

I did the same thing when I was younger. I wanted to try Fire Emblem because of SSBM, and bought Breath of Fire instead. At least that one was aesthetically similar, but that meant it took me longer to realize what I did.

I once watched about 75% of No Country For Old Men before realizing the movie I had intended to watch was There Will Be Blood

Outer Wilds is the GOAT. Transcendental is a perfect word for it

Paratroopa1 posted...

Outer Wilds is the one that everyone won't shut up about but also won't tell you anything about

which is exactly why I resent it. I'd let you all have your favorite game if you didn't swindle me into trying out a title that I would have known immediately I wouldn't have liked if you had just told me wtf it was.

Like, seriously, either tell people what they're getting themselves in for or shut up about it already.

Yeah I was waiting for that response lol, I'm not going to engage with it

I don't think asking people to stop being so completely nudge nudge wink wink about it that they won't even tell you that it's a time loop game is too much to ask for.

And no, I won't spoiler that. Because you learn that in freaking five minutes. It's not spoiling anything. It's informing.

you might not learn that in five minutes, you might learn that in 22 minutes. Or maybe you don't even realize that's what's happening the first time. And maybe at 22 minutes you don't realize why it happened

Can we not?

society has completely lost sense of what qualifies as a spoiler. nowadays it's either "just play it bro go in blind bro" or "why are you mad i described the entire ending? if you cared you should have binged the entire season when it was released yesterday"

azuarc posted...

And no, I won't spoiler that. Because you learn that in freaking five minutes. It's not spoiling anything. It's informing.

I don't think anybody considers the time loop to be a spoiler. Every description about the game says that: wiki article, any digital game store, any opening line in a review, etc. It's the premise, not a spoiler.

azuarc posted...

I'd let you all have your favorite game

Do you really imagine you have power over this

AdmittedFelon posted...

I don't think anybody considers the time loop to be a spoiler.

I do, because I think the game is potentially more fun for some people if it's a surprise, but if you really want to know otherwise you can just look at the game's store page or whatever

That's about the most I'm going to engage with this, it's fucking annoying how every Outer Wilds topic turns into this because some people just can't shut the fuck up

It says it in the game description on Steam now, but I definitely don't remember it being there before. The bigger issue for me is that it's a Myst-like, but I know there were tons of people who got all touchy in the past if I had the audacity to even mention the time loop component.

Anyway, Outer Worlds is so-so. It's the kind of game I would expect to like, and managed to convince myself to keep going for 20 hours, but I wasn't really enjoying it. It's halfway between a Bethesda game and a traditional CRPG, and I don't know that I'd say it's a happy medium.

It is a spoiler because some people take an hour to reach that point, at least 30 minutes. It's a strong moment that is made better the less you know about it, hence spoiler.

The level design is also a spoiler, even though that much more closely affects whether you'll like the game or not. So it should still not be spoiled for people.

Just play games that you might not like. It's good for you. Such a manchild thing to resist.

Paratroopa1 posted...

it's fucking annoying how every Outer Wilds topic turns into this because some people just can't shut the fuck up

Consider what it's like from my side.

Everyone: Just trust us. It's amazing!
I try it.
Me: No. I don't like it.
Everyone: Why not?
Me: Because it's a game type I don't like, and I just spent $15 on it because you wouldn't tell me what it is.
Everyone (to other people): Just trust us. It's amazing!

So yes, I make it a point to say something every time the game comes up because I don't want anyone else to have my experience. If you and the other 95% who gave it a thumbs up enjoyed it, great. I'm happy for you. But stop swindling people.

Except no one has ever benefited from it, and no one ever will, and you know that. It's purely ego. The only outcome is misery, for everyone around you, and for yourself.

you sound like one of those people who quit the game after 5 minutes, which makes up like half the haters of that game.

Paratroopa1 posted...

I do, because I think the game is potentially more fun for some people if it's a surprise, but if you really want to know otherwise you can just look at the game's store page or whatever

That is a little unfair to condemn anyone who doesn't see it that way though. That kind of logic can apply to anything. Some people avoid movie trailers and some don't. Some people will read a book excerpt and some don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbYCkvyw7TQ

I've never seen any content that talks about this game without mentioning the time loop. It's the selling point!

I'm not having this conversation again. We're not doing this.

I wouldn't even say I love Outer Wilds (partly my own fault for getting too high while playing it and getting freaked out about falling into an infinite void of space/having the misfortune of getting to Dark Bramble) but this reaction against it is wild lol

Outer Wilds is a puzzle and space exploration game that's designed (successfully, imo) to appeal to the "exploration is its own reward" player type. You start the game with no real objective other than to explore, and the primary gameplay loop involves traveling to and exploring various planets and acquiring new information--both to solve more of the game's puzzles and learn about its world and history. There is a story in the game but it is not immediately clear at the outset what that is.

A lot of people love the game. I thought it was pretty good.

I think the most striking description I've seen for the game is that it has [paraphrased since I couldn't find the review again] "an unwavering faith that the player will figure things out for themselves", and I think it's worthwhile to consider whether that's a good thing or a bad thing for you.

If you didn't play Outer Wilds during its early prototypes years before it was released, you missed out on the full experience. That's a straight up fact. Playing the released version blind is the closest you can get to that.

Outer Wilds is one of my favorite games-- maybe even my #1.

It's great to go in as blind as possible.

I can't say I understand the sentiment of, "if I'd known what sort of game it was, I'd have known I wouldn't like it." Many games I've enjoyed have been from genres that don't typically like but are executed well.

guffguy89 posted...

you sound like one of those people who quit the game after 5 minutes, which makes up like half the haters of that game.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/934c5cf3.png
Is that enough for you?

If you are so big mad about $15 and knew within 5 mins you wouldn't like it, why didn't you just refund it

azuarc posted...

It says it in the game description on Steam now, but I definitely don't remember it being there before.

http://web.archive.org/web/20190612091457/http s://store.steampowered.com/app/753640/Outer_Wilds/

it's been there since the game launched, dude

The Outer Worlds is the good game.

Outer Wilds is the great game.

azuarc posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/934c5cf3.png
Is that enough for you?

Honestly, I'm not sure how much I thought of Outer Wilds under 3 hours in, and it became my favorite game of all time by the end (well, like 3 months after I beat it when I realized I thought about for a significant amount of time every day since). Especially the first hour with the game, I was like "this is what everyone is raving about"? But as I put all the pieces together, it just continued to blow my mind more and more until I experienced the best ending in any game I've ever played.

Anyway, just pointing out my experience with the game and how grateful I am to have stuck with it. Anyone is allowed to stop playing a game whenever they like. In general, I probably give games too much time even when I'm not enjoying them.

Also final note: I don't necessarily consider Outer Wilds being a time loop game a spoiler, but how the game manifests that time loop certainly is. It was the one thing mindblowingly cool enough to keep me intrigued in those early, aimless hours.

VintageGin posted...

I can't say I understand the sentiment of, "if I'd known what sort of game it was, I'd have known I wouldn't like it." Many games I've enjoyed have been from genres that don't typically like but are executed well.

When I first heard people talk it up I thought I might want to try it but based on what I've seen since (i.e. pyresword's post) I can say with a good amount of confidence that I wouldn't like it

tbh though I think people just get annoyed and feel left out when people talk about how great the game is but don't go into detail and just tell them to play it, and use wasted time and money as an excuse to be upset. I also think it can come off kind of snobby to talk about a game being "transcendent" or whatever and then refusing to go into detail

MZero posted...

When I first heard people talk it up I thought I might want to try it but based on what I've seen since (i.e. pyresword's post) I can say with a good amount of confidence that I wouldn't like it

tbh though I think people just get annoyed and feel left out when people talk about how great the game is but don't go into detail and just tell them to play it, and use wasted time and money as an excuse to be upset. I also think it can come off kind of snobby to talk about a game being "transcendent" or whatever and then refusing to go into detail

The problem with Outer Wilds is that it's designed in such a way that it's specifically hard to talk about. There's a pretty good case to be made that everything is a spoiler. There are entire mechanics that are always there and you just don't know it yet, but will change the way you interact with the game when you learn them. I could also boot up a fresh file and beat the game in less than 30 minutes now (which also unfortunately makes it the type of experience you can truly only have once). It's just in the game's nature, and it's really hard to talk about what makes the game so satisfying until you experience those things for yourself. If we were to reveal some of these specific things, you might as well not even play the game.

I know that's a dissatisfying answer, but that's just how the game was designed.

MZero posted...

When I first heard people talk it up I thought I might want to try it but based on what I've seen since (i.e. pyresword's post) I can say with a good amount of confidence that I wouldn't like it

tbh though I think people just get annoyed and feel left out when people talk about how great the game is but don't go into detail and just tell them to play it, and use wasted time and money as an excuse to be upset. I also think it can come off kind of snobby to talk about a game being "transcendent" or whatever and then refusing to go into detail

To be honest, I'm just befuddled by this response. There is no secret about what is so great about this game. The reason it is great is because it has a great story, one that unravels in such a way that it pulls you in deeper and deeper as you traverse through space. It's one of those games that leaves you thinking about the game even when you're not playing it and long after you have finished it. It's one of those games that make you think about reality in a different way. A real psychological treat of the mind. Very few games have done that for me, and this is one of them.

What exactly are you looking for? A plot summary? The story peels like an onion in the game. Why would we spoil that? Uncovering the story is part of the adventure and allure of the game.

Just don't blame people telling you to play the game as a reason not to play the game. That makes no sense.

Both actually but theyre not super similar

guffguy89 posted...

To be honest, I'm just befuddled by this response. There is no secret about what is so great about this game. The reason it is great is because it has a great story, one that unravels in such a way that it pulls you in deeper and deeper as you traverse through space. It's one of those games that leaves you thinking about the game even when you're not playing it and long after you have finished it. It's one of those games that make you think about reality in a different way. A real psychological treat of the mind. Very few games have done that for me, and this is one of them.

What exactly are you looking for? A plot summary? The story peels like an onion in the game. Why would we spoil that? Uncovering the story is part of the adventure and allure of the game.

Just don't blame people telling you to play the game as a reason not to play the game. That makes no sense.

To be clear I personally am not bothered by it, I'm just guessing why some people are. It's kind of like if all your friends go on vacation without you and vaguely allude to things you don't understand and then say "you had to be there."

Or maybe they are just mad they spent money on a game they didn't like idk

guffguy89 posted...

What exactly are you looking for? A plot summary?

a basic idea of what the game is about works fine.
saying it's an adventure puzzle game, a space exploration game, and that there's a gameplay loop that unravels the story which is a large part of the game's appeal tells you enough details on the genre and its strengths well enough, without spoiling anything.

azuarc posted...

Is that enough for you?

Crybaby clown was convinced to play 0.7 hours longer than the refund window

That's just plain good game design

He could have purchased it on another website where it's cheaper and does not offer refunds.

Anywho. from what I am gathering, it's a big time traveling Myst? I've never played it. But games like Myst never held my attention, so IDK if this would be a game for me. But I've been trying to play different games lately, so maybe it would lol

I too got these two games confused, Outer Worlds was on Gamepass and I went into it thinking it was the other lol

Xtlm posted...

He could have purchased it on another website where it's cheaper and does not offer refunds.

Anywho. from what I am gathering, it's a big time traveling Myst? I've never played it. But games like Myst never held my attention, so IDK if this would be a game for me. But I've been trying to play different games lately, so maybe it would lol

I too got these two games confused, Outer Worlds was on Gamepass and I went into it thinking it was the other lol

he just posted a screenshot from steam

Outer Wilds isn't as... I don't know the word...abstract? As Myst is. Outer Wilds feels less isolated and impersonal.

There are similarities but Outer Wilds' movement and exploration is just so much more involved. I think at certain times it gets the pulse racing in ways Myst doesn't/can't.

It is the GOAT imo too. I knew about the loop going in; I've sold it to people irl based on the loop, that trying to unravel the mystery of the loop - and 'other stuff' is like the central objective. "Play this game, it's amazing, but I won't tell you anything about it" might be the purest way of experiencing it but also doesn't make for good bar conversation.

Edit: also, I'm 90% sure someone told me about the guy on Giant's Deep giving you the "skip to next loop" option and that helped me tremendously. I'd have liked the game less if I'd had to like, deliberately kill myself whenever I wanted another try at something.