Current Events > CEO shooter suspect being questioned in Altoona, PA

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darkbuster posted...

So, you're telling me a guy went from Pennsylvania to New York just to shoot one guy & went straight back home? No matter how much they might have grievances with insurance companies, I doubt the average American has the time & money to pursue a vendetta on that level. I hate being a conspiracy nut, but really feels like they just set some poor guy up.

Luigi Mangione's family is wealthier than Brian Thompson was. He's a right wing techbro obsessed with birthrates and obsesses about Japan's in particular.

Go to McDonalds and youll catch either e.coli or a killer.

Ar0ge posted...

So... This many people on CE condone murder?

What an unhinged group of people. I think it's time for me to get the fuck outta here.

yea it's super weird that some people think an employee reporting a murderer deserves to lose his/her job

wild group of people here

Ar0ge posted...

So... This many people on CE condone murder?

What an unhinged group of people. I think it's time for me to get the fuck outta here.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/caf8ea1d.jpg

LightSnake posted...

Yeah, the thing that tends to break the whole we must respond to a violent attack by addressing the societal issues that motivate by the violent attacker model is that often times the violent attacker is motivated by somevery strange issues

IDK, has the public really been interested in conversations about how to prevent this kind of attack? The whole discourse has been more like venting about how shitty US healthcare is and distrusting the country's business leaders more broadly. Like fundamentally, the feelings people have about this aren't anything like after a school shooting or most mail bombings. They at best don't give a fuck about the victim or they're actively glad he was murdered. And discussion about the shooter online has mostly hoped he never gets caught and that therefore the circumstance of the crime speaks for itself.

People wanted him to get away with it because they liked what he did, not because of which books he read. That feels like a very different situation than people feeling the need to justify the violence against kids or random grad students because "oh but you gotta read about his ideals bro".

pinky0926 posted...

The average American doesn't have a couple hundred dollars and a weekend?

Given how many are cited as being "paycheck to paycheck", it really is hard to believe most people have time & money to traverse state lines just to shoot one guy.

darkbuster posted...

Given how many are cited as being "paycheck to paycheck", it really is hard to believe most people have time & money to traverse state lines just to shoot one guy.

well considering this guy may just be incredibly wealthy he might not be the average american

Doe posted...

IDK, has the public really been interested in conversations about how to prevent this kind of attack? The whole discourse has been more like venting about how shitty US healthcare is and distrusting the country's business leaders more broadly. Like fundamentally, the feelings people have about this aren't anything like after a school shooting or most mail bombings. They at best don't give a fuck about the victim or they're actively glad he was murdered. And discussion about the shooter online has mostly hoped he never gets caught and that therefore the circumstance of the crime speaks for itself.

People wanted him to get away with it because they liked what he did, not because of which books he read. That feels like a very different situation than people feeling the need to justify the violence against kids or random grad students because "oh but you gotta read about his ideals bro".

Yeah, well. Boo the fuck hoo. Tough shit for them. You don't get to extra-judicially execute bad people either.

Whoa, I lived in Altoona for a year while in college. Very creepy

darkbuster posted...

Given how many are cited as being "paycheck to paycheck", it really is hard to believe most people have time & money to traverse state lines just to shoot one guy.

Yeah but "paycheck to paycheck" really means "to cover my standard of living I can't save and accrue wealth", not "I literally don't have a single penny in my bank account ever". If we are assuming this person really wanted to kill someone, I imagine they could I dunno, maybe default on the electricity bill for a month or whatever. I think wanting to commit a first degree murder might be sufficiently important enough to forego some other life thing for a while.

LightSnake posted...

Yeah, well. Boo the fuck hoo. Tough shit for them. You don't get to extra-judicially execute bad people either.

We know, we know

you defend insurance ocmpanies

littlebro07 posted...

It's not really "we don't care about murder"

It's more like "we don't give a fuck about this specific person being murdered because he was responsible for many other deaths so fuck him"

Bingo

BowflexPeloton posted...

Whoa, I lived in Altoona for a year while in college. Very creepy

i played basketball for about 3 hours in altoona once, coulda been me.

This hero of the working class is another wealthy person (or comes from wealth). So that means hes gonna have money to fight the case and possibly get away with murder? Anyone gonna contribute to his crowdfunding to help him fight the case?

If the shooter was Luigi Mangione, he's a wealthy techbro. He had the means.

Also, it's not really that expensive to get from PA to NYC and back for a weekend

It should have not come to a point where violence or murder was necessary and I in no way condone that action but the fact is that it already happened. Nothing anyone can do about that. So we just choose not to celebrate the life of someone who dedicated their life to ruining the lives of countless families all in the name of greed.

darkbuster posted...

Given how many are cited as being "paycheck to paycheck", it really is hard to believe most people have time & money to traverse state lines just to shoot one guy.

True for the most part but Altoona to NYC isn't that far or expensive (Google says $66 by train)

Solution_45 posted...

yea it's super weird that some people think an employee reporting a murderer deserves to lose his/her job

wild group of people here

I think he is an asshole but I'm not gonna call for anything to happen to him.

LightSnake posted...

Yeah, well. Boo the fuck hoo. Tough shit for them. You don't get to extra-judicially execute bad people either.

When is it ok to extra-judicially execute someone?

If you're about to say never I have a short list of .gov websites that you should file complaints with.

pinky0926 posted...

You're basically watching the peasants revolt at the endstage of a boring dystopia. It's ugly, and nobody has any fucks left to give.

I have my doubts whether this will happen soon.

If the killer had been someone who was ruined by healthcare, maybe, but this guy is crazy person from a rich family.

This dude got caught in my home state? Which is also the state where Trump was nearly assassinated?

PA is becoming notorious this year

Tyranthraxus posted...

When is it ok to extra-judicially execute someone?

If you're about to say never I have a short list of .gov websites that you should file complaints with.

I don't think the police should get away with it either, frankly.

Jeremy517 posted...

I have my doubts whether this will happen soon.

If the killer had been someone who was ruined by healthcare, maybe, but this guy is crazy person from a rich family.

Whether it happens or not, the fact that so many people are acting like the excited crowd at a public hanging is maybe a clue to what people are feeling.

People on the upper end of the wealth divide are really confused, because they've probably never had to watch or consider a loved one/friend/associate die or go in poor health because a chatbot decided the box ticking was insufficient.

He was an anti capitalist yet going to Starbucks and McDonalds lol.

pinky0926 posted...

Whether it happens or not, the fact that so many people are acting like the excited crowd at a public hanging is maybe a clue to what people are feeling.

People on the upper end of the wealth divide are really confused, because they've probably never had to watch or consider a loved one/friend/associate die or go in poor health because a chatbot decided the box ticking was insufficient.

Don't get me wrong, I think it is inevitable that it will happen eventually; I just don't think this is the catalyst.

LightSnake posted...

Yeah, well. Boo the fuck hoo. Tough shit for them. You don't get to extra-judicially execute bad people either.

Sure, but I don't think you're really responding to my post? You're saying people jumped the gun by glorifying the situation based on the suspect's assumed motives and will eat crow if he did it for some weird incel reason. I'm saying that the public's reaction to the crime was been based on who the victim was. Pictures of the shooter only trickled out after the initial reaction.

pinky0926 posted...

People on the upper end of the wealth divide are really confused, because they've probably never had to watch or consider a loved one/friend/associate die or go in poor health because a chatbot decided the box ticking was insufficient.

I still remember talking to a libertarian in grad school who didn't care at all about health care as a public policy issue because "once you have your first $10 million or so, health care costs aren't a big deal."

pinky0926 posted...

The average American doesn't have a couple hundred dollars and a weekend?

Correct.

Such a shame. I so wanted this to last a long time.

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

"The 26-year-old was picked up at a McDonalds in Altoona after an employee thought he resembled the man in New York Police Department photos and called police,"

Fucking garbage ass piece of shit class traitor.

Also! Make a note that this board has gone from praising the murderer for standing up to oppressive elite and hoping he makes a clean getaway to now hoping that the underpaid fast food worker loses their job, and gets doxxed for the "crime" of turning in the murderer.

This board wants a worse outcome for a guy who turned in a murderer, than the actual murderer.

Some of you really, really need to take a long hard look at yourselves.

Toonstrack posted...

Also! Make a note that this board has gone from praising the murderer for standing up to oppressive elite and hoping he makes a clean getaway to now hoping that the underpaid fast food worker loses their job, and gets doxxed for the "crime" of turning in the murderer.

This board wants a worse outcome for a guy who turned in a murderer, than the actual murderer.

Some of you really, really need to take a long hard look at yourselves.

turns out most people think vigilante murder is bad even when the victim is a CEO

Even a moderator got in on it. lol. Second page of this topic.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

Such a shame. I so wanted this to last a long time.

He didnt kill himself so there is still a chance for the story to continue. Being alive means there is a chance we find out a motive. Compared to all those mass shooters who kill themselves and the story ends there.

LightSnake posted...

turns out most people think vigilante murder is bad even when the victim is a CEO

turns out most people hate insurance companies

DrizztLink posted...

Correct.

Ok, but putting that aside it's not exactly a hugely unlikely prospect that this guy - whatever his socio economic circumstances - could put together a couple hundred dollars and a weekend

Even a homeless crack addict can find a couple hundred dollars if they're tweaking

pinky0926 posted...

The average American doesn't have a couple hundred dollars and a weekend?

Way more than you'd imagine wouldn't be able to afford that. The struggle is real, and the image of wealth that people have of Americans is false.

KogaSteelfang posted...

Way more than you'd imagine wouldn't be able to afford that. The struggle is real, and the image of wealth that people have of Americans is false.

I get that, I do. But going from "well people are struggling" to "obviously this guy is a plant because there's no way an average american could figure out how to travel to new york if it was their biggest immediate life goal" is some leap

Dude went to a high school that costs $40k a year. then went to an Ivy League school.

Did he get cut off from his trust fund and lashed out?

https://x.com/jarvis_best/status/1866200234227011600

Toonstrack posted...

Also! Make a note that this board has gone from praising the murderer for standing up to oppressive elite and hoping he makes a clean getaway to now hoping that the underpaid fast food worker loses their job, and gets doxxed for the "crime" of turning in the murderer.

This board wants a worse outcome for a guy who turned in a murderer, than the actual murderer.

Some of you really, really need to take a long hard look at yourselves.

I mean I didn't say anything should happen to the person. I just think they are an asshole.

pinky0926 posted...

I get that, I do. But going from "well people are struggling" to "obviously this guy is a plant because there's no way an average american could figure out how to travel to new york if it was their biggest immediate life goal" is some leap

Ah, I gotcha. My bad.

If he did the crime, he needs to do the time.

Pretty dumb to keep evidence and just be out in public, but going around murdering people in cold blood isn't how problems are fixed.

Kain_Highwind posted...

https://x.com/jarvis_best/status/1866200234227011600

garbage

Damn, even the rich's deranged killers look better than the average working class citizen. Working class guy looks like he is in his 40's already at 26.

Is anyone revising their "this is so SUSPICIOUS" priors when it turns out this dude comes from a wealthier background than the dead CEO?

More about the handwritten note

He was found with a two-page, handwritten manifesto that was heavily critical of the healthcare industry and warned that violence was the only answer to changing it. "These parasites had it coming," he wrote in the document, a police official who has seen the document told CNN. "I do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had to be done," it continued. The manifesto also stated that Mangione was acting alone and had funded himself.

https://www.newsweek.com/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooter-manhunt-updates-cops-question-man-brian-thompsons-killing-1997858

LightSnake posted...

Is anyone revising their "this is so SUSPICIOUS" priors when it turns out this dude comes from a wealthier background than the dead CEO?

Who cares what his background is

He killed a monster

Jeremy517 posted...

I have my doubts whether this will happen soon.

If the killer had been someone who was ruined by healthcare, maybe, but this guy is crazy person from a rich family.

And you can bet that's all we're going to hear from now on. The discussion about class divide will be shut down because he was also wealthy, the concerns about health insurance will be dismissed if they weren't the motivation (and if they were the narrative will shift to that he could've afforded it), and him being conservative is all liberals needs to further chastise the idea that healthcare needs reformation.

pinky0926 posted...

I get that, I do. But going from "well people are struggling" to "obviously this guy is a plant because there's no way an average american could figure out how to travel to new york if it was their biggest immediate life goal" is some leap

Fair point, I'm just addressing the question you raised.

I don't think it's particularly indicative of a conspiracy, just that the answer to "does the average American not have a couple hundred dollars" is an emphatic yes.