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Vegy
12/27/24 5:44:46 PM
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https://www.wfla.com/news/another-florida-state-representative-switches-from-democrat-to-republican/

WTF??

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Doe
12/27/24 5:46:08 PM
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As a proud Jewish woman, I have been increasingly troubled by the Democratic Partys failure to unequivocally support Israel and its willingness to tolerate extreme progressive voices that justify or condone acts of terrorism, said Cassel, adding that she can no longer remain in a party that doesnt represent her values.
Biden got took to the fucking cleaners by Israel

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HashtagSEP
12/27/24 5:48:51 PM
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Okay, so wait. Did Biden help Israel too much, or not enough

I can't keep up with the excuses "leftists" that clearly support the right are making, anymore.

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Doe
12/27/24 5:53:03 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Okay, so wait. Did Biden help Israel too much, or not enough

I can't keep up with the excuses "leftists" that clearly support the right are making, anymore.
This person is definitely not describing themselves as a "leftist" at all, they say "extreme progressive voices condone acts of terror".

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Robot2600
12/27/24 5:55:31 PM
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and Israel just called musk the president. wild world.

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AbsolutelyNoOne
12/27/24 5:55:57 PM
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Republicans have actually been pretty consistent on thinking Biden is somehow not pro-Israel enough

Which is. Something.

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HashtagSEP
12/27/24 6:03:13 PM
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Doe posted...
This person is definitely not describing themselves as a "leftist" at all, they say "extreme progressive voices condone acts of terror".

But they did initially, hence why they're now switching.

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kage_53
12/27/24 6:04:53 PM
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I think switching parties should be illegal if person is serving their term.
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LightHawKnight
12/27/24 6:05:29 PM
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There really fucking should be a harsh punishment for this instead of not getting voted for again.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
12/27/24 6:11:00 PM
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kage_53 posted...
I think switching parties should be illegal if person is serving their term.
Yeah. Wanna switch parties? Wait until after your term is over.

Of course, while this doesn't mean you can't vote against your 'offical' party interests, it does prevent you from tipping the balance (like that skank here in NC who went from Dem to GOP and gave the fuckers a veto-proof supermajority).

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ledbowman
12/27/24 6:13:50 PM
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democrat is a toxic brand in 2025. they sure earned it

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superbot400
12/27/24 6:14:06 PM
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Florida Democrat is literally the worst Democratic run party in the country.

You cannot name a state that has ****ed as much as Flordia Democrat.
kage_53 posted...
I think switching parties should be illegal if person is serving their term.
You still run as DINO then pull Kristen Sinema, Eric Adam, etc.

The answer to this BS is a recall election, which sadly could be abused as seen as in Cali, but it's the only way to stop this nonsense from happening.

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Necronmon
12/27/24 6:15:54 PM
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democrat is a toxic brand in 2025. they sure earned it

The fact that the GOP is the party that's all but gone full Nazi and yet its the Democracts that are toxic shows just how broken this damn country is.
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__starsnostars
12/27/24 6:16:17 PM
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It should be illegal. Political parties should be illegal.

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Link_of_time
12/27/24 6:17:11 PM
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Vote blue no mat...what?
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Doe
12/27/24 6:22:05 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
But they did initially, hence why they're now switching.
So you're equating "leftist" with Democrat here? "Leftist" doesn't come up in the article once.

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Board_hunter567
12/27/24 6:27:40 PM
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Doe posted...
This person is definitely not describing themselves as a "leftist" at all, they say "extreme progressive voices condone acts of terror".
If what she said last year is any indication the "act of terror" is calling for a ceasefire

We will not back down, which is what we are constantly told to do, Cassel said, while facing Nixon. Where is your resolution to Ukraine telling them to stop defending themselves against Russia? Why is it just Israel?
H https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2023/11/08/florida-house-rejects-israel-cease-fire-resolution-

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HashtagSEP
12/27/24 6:27:53 PM
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Doe posted...
So you're equating "leftist" with Democrat here? "Leftist" doesn't come up in the article once.

She campaigned on things like supporting mental health professionals, expanding Medicaid to young adults, and requiring more strict background checks on firearms. I'm not sure this debate seems worth having.

The entire point is she presented herself as somebody more on the left for 2 years, but then basically took the first exit to the right.

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mybbqrules
12/27/24 6:31:40 PM
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I have been increasingly troubled by the Democratic Partys failure to unequivocally support Israel
But that's literally exactly what happened.

Truth doesn't matter any more. Enjoy the time this country has left.

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Doe
12/27/24 6:40:59 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
She campaigned on things like supporting mental health professionals, expanding Medicaid to young adults, and requiring more strict background checks on firearms. I'm not sure this debate seems worth having.
All of that except arguably expanding Medicaid is really standard Democrat fare. When people on CE use the word "leftist" they generally mean the leftmost bloc of the party (or people who feel too left wing to identify as Dems), not any Democrat. So your post read a little confusing if you were referring to Democrats in the general sense.

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HighSeraph
12/27/24 6:43:56 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
Truth doesn't matter any more.
It hasn't mattered since 2015

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Rob_the_Ninja
12/27/24 6:45:27 PM
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Dems just weren't helping eradicate the brown people fast enough for her liking.
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MLBloomy
12/27/24 6:48:01 PM
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
Yeah. Wanna switch parties? Wait until after your term is over.

Of course, while this doesn't mean you can't vote against your 'offical' party interests, it does prevent you from tipping the balance (like that skank here in NC who went from Dem to GOP and gave the fuckers a veto-proof supermajority).
If you can vote against your party line, then there's no tipping the balance. That veto-proof supermajority in NC only worked if were no defections.

Keeping that in mind, we might not have gotten Obamacare without a party switch. The Democrats wouldn't have gotten to a filibuster proof supermajority in the Senate in late 2009 if Arlen Specter hadn't gotten fed up with Republicans and switched to the Democrats in the spring. That got the Democratic caucus to 59 (57 D + 2 I), with Republicans challenging Al Franken's win in Minnesota, plus Ted Kennedy was absent because of his brain cancer. After Franken was finally declared the winner and Kennedy died and a temp Senator was named, the Democrats had 60 and began working on the first ACA bill.
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reincarnator07
12/31/24 7:57:34 AM
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HashtagSEP posted...
She campaigned on things like supporting mental health professionals, expanding Medicaid to young adults, and requiring more strict background checks on firearms. I'm not sure this debate seems worth having.

The entire point is she presented herself as somebody more on the left for 2 years, but then basically took the first exit to the right.
While I agree that she's pivoted hard, that ain't a leftist platform. Medicaid expansion is the only remotely left wing position there, everything else is bog standard Democrat.

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rick_alverado
12/31/24 8:37:35 AM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Okay, so wait. Did Biden help Israel too much, or not enough

I can't keep up with the excuses "leftists" that clearly support the right are making, anymore.

Any amount of helping a genocide is too much. If shes going further right in order to more strongly support genocide, then she isnt a leftist.
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creativerealms
12/31/24 8:46:14 AM
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The democrats were 100 percent behind Israel. It's part of the reason Harris lost.

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Euripides
12/31/24 8:56:17 AM
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creativerealms posted...
The democrats were 100 percent behind Israel. It's part of the reason Harris lost.

Dem voters: "We hate that you're 100% supporting Israel"

Rep voters: "I hate the Dems because they hate Israel"

That's the 2024 election in a nutshell

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KanWan
12/31/24 9:01:10 AM
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It should, yeah

that way you get people to work within the capacities of the genre and bringing strategies that they know well or changing them according to the limits of the thing


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Ulfar
12/31/24 9:59:11 AM
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Doe posted...
Biden got took to the fucking cleaners by Israel

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Sayoria
12/31/24 10:02:44 AM
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Democrat leadership supporting people who are 'moderate'. And it's supposed to be a surprise when this happens?

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creativerealms
12/31/24 10:05:02 AM
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The progressives hate the Democrats for being too conservative and the conservatives hate the Democrats for being too progressive.

Which means the Democrats are for no one

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Heineken14
12/31/24 10:07:27 AM
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Euripides posted...
Dem voters: "We hate that you're 100% supporting Israel"

Rep voters: "I hate the Dems because they hate Israel"

That's the 2024 election in a nutshell

I mean, it has been for awhile. Remember when Donnie put out an ad insinuating Hillary is corrupt and being paid by The Jews and republicans still said democrats are the ones who hate Jewish people.

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DodogamaRayBrst
12/31/24 10:09:10 AM
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I kind of understand party switching in political systems with many parties. But in a two party system, just joining the opposing party over a singular or few minor disagreements are just bonkers to me.

I guess politics really is a game to some people and has nothing to do with values.
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Sayoria
12/31/24 10:25:11 AM
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creativerealms posted...
The progressives hate the Democrats for being too conservative and the conservatives hate the Democrats for being too progressive.

Which means the Democrats are for no one

Democrats aren't progressive because they have lobbyists to satisfy. We all know it. Progressive policies win nationally easily. Democrats however, like Republicans, have their donors who buy them out so while they might be 'socially progressive', they still will throw a monkey wrench in the machine if it means protecting their personal interests.

So no, if anything, the democrats are for the lobbyists who 'feel bad' about social issues. Meanwhile, republicans are for the lobbyists who don't 'feel bad' about social issues.

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MarcoRubio
12/31/24 10:28:52 AM
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Joke fucking state with joke fucking leadership

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KiwiTerraRizing
12/31/24 10:37:50 AM
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The Democrats get held to a purity standard. No matter what they do its not enough.

Republicans get held to no standard and never get blamed for anything.

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DoesntMatter
12/31/24 11:56:55 AM
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ledbowman posted...
democrat is a toxic brand in 2025. they sure earned it
suspended conservatroll says what? lol

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Sayoria
01/01/25 1:55:52 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
The Democrats get held to a purity standard. No matter what they do its not enough.

Republicans get held to no standard and never get blamed for anything.

Difference is, Republican voters want racism and misery for the other side. Their party gives them that. Democrat voters want sensible gun legislation, healthcare, and other things that their side simply won't listen to. Atleast 'just the right amount' to avoid pissing off their lobbyists.

If Democrats ever saw a win where their voters felt there was progress, it would be a different story. But 4 years just passed and a lot of the issues democrats voted on, was not delivered, and people on the middle feel betrayed. To them, atleast 'getting rid of them illegals is going to give us..... more work in the US?'....

I dunno. I don't get the Republican side. But they DO get thrown a bone, and that bone is the poor voting to hurt the poor, and the rich are like ".........fuck ya, we can do that. Just don't start wanting us to tax ourselves"

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Resident_Hill
01/01/25 2:26:38 PM
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I can tell you that where I am from, Palestine was not even close to being on anyone's mind. No one cares about that when everything costs so damn much. I'd wager Palestine was more of an issue for city folks.

I voted D but many people around me voted R (stupidly, since things are likely to be more expensive) because of the economy and Illegals.

The Dems lost because:

a. No one voted for Harris to be the nominee in the primaries.

b. She promised a lot of stuff once she got in the White House but never addressed why she didn't do any of these things with Biden for 4 years and she was already in the WH.

C. The economy sucks and people tend to vote the opposite direction because they don't understand how any of it works.

D. The stupidity of the Dem party squabbling about Palestine when they needed to band together and send a strong message. They didn't.

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GhostFaceLeaks
01/01/25 2:33:14 PM
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Given how the current admin is going to give two choices to the Democrats: Remain as is and have them and their entire families executed or switch to loyal Republicans, expect a lot more of the latter.

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Snip-N-Snails
01/01/25 9:42:06 PM
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Yes

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darkknight109
01/06/25 3:38:04 AM
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Any person who leaves or is kicked out of their party should immediately have to run in a by-election to keep their seat.

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Ricemills
01/06/25 5:29:05 AM
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Resident_Hill posted...
I can tell you that where I am from, Palestine was not even close to being on anyone's mind. No one cares about that when everything costs so damn much. I'd wager Palestine was more of an issue for city folks.

D. The stupidity of the Dem party squabbling about Palestine when they needed to band together and send a strong message. They didn't.

Nobody cares about Palestine, and yet it's the fault of the people who cares about Palestine.

Fuck this shit.

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