Current Events > Americans Think History Will Rate Biden Presidency Negatively

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BlackScythe0 posted...

Uh no. Even people who think Trump is the absolute worst can legitimately think Biden will be viewed negatively for doing nothing to stop Trump.

"Here's how Trumps and Republicans actions are Biden and the Democrats fault."

A line will be used for everything awful Trump and MAGA does the next 4 years. It's somehow the Democrats or Bidens fault.

havean776 posted...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

Are you talking about this part:

"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light," the president said, turning to Dr Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response co-ordinator, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.
"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued.
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
"So it'd be interesting to check that."

Does it really matter?

People think Regan was the greatest President we've had in the last 50 years.

Others say its Obama.

Others say it's Clinton.

Who really cares?

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

okay, what has Biden done that is so outright egregious that made him deserve this distinction?

He made eggs expensive.

asdf8562 posted...

"Here's how Trumps and Republicans actions are Biden and the Democrats fault."

They had the chance to put him in prison and didn't. So yes, it is their fault.

Biden will be remembered like Ulysses Grant, start off with a lower rating, then steadily climb as people actually look over his achievements.

GenesisReturns posted...

Biden will be remembered like Ulysses Grant, start off with a lower rating, then steadily climb as people actually look over his achievements.

His achievements are hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians and a second term of Trump.

Likely so yes, his last 2 years can be described as nothing sort of a disaster. And if Trump washs his hands of Ukraine they fall then that will likely be his final legacy.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

His achievements are hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians and a second term of Trump.

https://imgur.com/RffLxxD.gif

Biden opened the door for another trump presidency which is negative and he did nothing about the courts before the most important election.

BoomerTheGreat posted...

Biden opened the door for another trump presidency which is negative and he did nothing about the courts before the most important election.

A lie already.

He appointed more judges than Trump's first term and his appointments all got confirmed by the Senate. Stacking the SCOTUS was not going to happen. Even FDR couldn't with all his political capital he had.

Also with Biden's judges, they're more representative of the USA. He's gotten more left leaning BIPOC judges in the courts than ever, especially Black women judges.

BoomerTheGreat posted...

Biden opened the door for another trump presidency which is negative and he did nothing about the courts before the most important election.

You know thats done by Congress, right?

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

They had the chance to put him in prison and didn't. So yes, it is their fault.

Anything to avoid holding Republicans more accountable for their own actions right?

Heineken14 posted...

https://imgur.com/RffLxxD.gif

For real lol

Heineken14 posted...

https://imgur.com/RffLxxD.gif

It's definitely not a topic about Biden until Thanatos shows up to act like all Biden did was kill brown people in the middle east

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/13/biden-student-loan-debt-forgiven.html

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/at-its-two-year-anniversary-the-bipartisan-infrastructure-law-continues-to-rebuild-all-of-america/

Why a person from outside of the US is so intent on making one political party in particular look bad while offering virtually zero criticism of the other is truly a mystery /s

asdf8562 posted...

Anything to avoid holding Republicans more accountable for their own actions right?

He's arguing the opposite.

That they should have held Republicans accountable for their actions, but didn't.

asdf8562 posted...

Anything to avoid holding Republicans more accountable for their own actions right?

Yes, Biden failed to hold Republicans accountable for their actions.

His legacy is gonna be "the one dude in the entire dem party apparently who actually beat Trump in an election"

Theres worse things

GhostFaceLeaks posted...

We won't be around in the next decade, that's for sure.

Yes we will lmao

ai123 posted...

He's arguing the opposite.

That they should have held Republicans accountable for their actions, but didn't.

He's definitely avoiding blaming Republicans and Trump for their own actions to focus strictly on Democrats.

It's always, "here why it's Biden or the Democrats fault Republicans/Trump did xyz awful thing." Or, an announcement that Trump/MAGA did something bad, and the response to that being, "its Democrats fault that Republicans did what they did."

It's always some line of reasoning to hold Republicans less accountable, or push a "same thing both sides."

Blaming dems doesn't mean the pubs are being considered blameless. Pubs are bad by default. Dem response is the only thing with potential change for good, which is why criticism is warranted.

Evening_Dragon posted...

Blaming dems doesn't mean the pubs are being considered blameless. Pubs are bad by default. Dem response is the only thing with potential change for good, which is why criticism is warranted.

Its peddling a narrative "same thing both sides" which certain usuals here tend to do.

As those usuals tend to peddle the logic that it's Dems fault Republicans/MAGA do the things they do. With the line of logic usually leaning into both Dems and Pubs wanted the same thing.

Which again the usuals peddle because that narrative works wonders for Republicans.

asdf8562 posted...

He's definitely avoiding blaming Republicans and Trump for their own actions to focus strictly on Democrats.

It's always, "here why it's Biden or the Democrats fault Republicans/Trump did xyz awful thing." Or, an announcement that Trump/MAGA did something bad, and the response to that being, "its Democrats fault that Republicans did what they did."

It's always some line of reasoning to hold Republicans less accountable, or push a "same thing both sides."

One side is actively evil and has showed their hands countless times. The other side gets power and does literally nothing about it except hold a few of the nameless peons accountable. The dems have blame for still trying to play nice with the side that simply won't.

Biden at points realized bipartisan relations won't work. But his legacy is doing nothing about it and crippling the party by not standing down when going into an election. Biden is fucking aweful and lost any credibility he had gained.

I'm failing to see how blaming Biden, Garland, and Democrats for not stopping Trump is considered an outrageous statement. They had the most power out of anybody to do so and they failed.

RobertMuldoon posted...

I'm failing to see how blaming Biden, Garland, and Democrats for not stopping Trump is considered an outrageous statement. They had the most power out of anybody to do so and they failed.

No they didn't
The people had the power. They could fo said a felon should never be president but they decided he should be.

What these people are complaining about is that Biden didn't abuse his power like a King.

havean776 posted...

No they didn't
The people had the power. They could fo said a felon should never be president but they decided he should be.

I mean, the people of Ohio, I guess. Most of us are going to be recorded for the same party our state always votes for.

I think that we have pretty conclusively established that the American People are stupid. I say that as an American. My fellow Americans have been utterly fooled by the most clumsy and obvious con man on Earth. Twice. Even after a disastrous first Trump term.

The opinion of my fellow Americans carries very little weight with me. They are never informed or reasonable opinions.

havean776 posted...

No they didn't
The people had the power. They could fo said a felon should never be president but they decided he should be.

What these people are complaining about is that Biden didn't abuse his power like a King.

This.

The Biden years were four of the toughest years of my life so far. Trumps administration was rough, but I could at least afford groceries and rent under him. My rent went up $1,000 under Biden.

havean776 posted...

No they didn't
The people had the power. They could fo said a felon should never be president but they decided he should be.

What these people are complaining about is that Biden didn't abuse his power like a King.

AG Garland sat there for 4 years and did nothing to stop Trump. Biden let him. Yes, they share some blame in all of this just like the voters. Both failed to stop Trump, but the Biden administration had a better chance to do so.

Westernwolf4 posted...

I think that we have pretty conclusively established that the American People are stupid. I say that as an American. My fellow Americans have been utterly fooled by the most clumsy and obvious con man on Earth. Twice. Even after a disastrous first Trump term.

The opinion of my fellow Americans carries very little weight with me. They are never informed or reasonable opinions.

Exactly, which is why I don't really care about what they think and believe that Biden will be looked upon as like a top 20 probably president.

asdf8562 posted...

He's definitely avoiding blaming Republicans and Trump for their own actions to focus strictly on Democrats.

This topic is about Biden's presidency, not Trump's.

havean776 posted...

What these people are complaining about is that Biden didn't abuse his power like a King.

He did abuse his power - by not going after Trump. Instead of treating him like any other criminal they tiptoed around his crimes and ended up doing what amounted to nothing.

LBJ is remembered for signing into law some of the best programs of the second half of the 20th century - and also for further enmeshing the US in an unwinnable, unpopular, and inhumane war.

I imagine Biden will be remembered similarly, though I have my doubts about the longevity of his domestic policy.

Payzmaykr posted...

The Biden years were four of the toughest years of my life so far. Trumps administration was rough, but I could at least afford groceries and rent under him. My rent went up $1,000 under Biden.

Considering that Trump crashed the booming Obama economy, why do you believe he will do good this time?

havean776 posted...

Considering that Trump crashed the booming Obama economy, why do you believe he will do good this time?

I dont think hes going to fix the economy for us. I am just saying that Biden wont be remembered favorably because he was put in to get Trump out and many things actually got worse under him.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

His achievements are hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians and a second term of Trump.

HAMAS may disagree with your numbers. As their own numbers are at 46,000~.

Remember when Trump was directly responsible for 1,000,000+ deaths of American citizens because of his handling of covid?

I think Biden's Presidency will be tarnished for dragging their feet so long on prosecuting Trump for his blatant crimes. No matter how well they did in everything else that is a black hole sized blemish on his record.

There are two ways I see Biden's "legacy" going:

1) He gets viewed as neglectful at best a la James Buchanan who's lack of action (or borderline sympathies with his opposition) directly led to the Trump takeover and basically destruction of modern America. James Buchanan's lack of action and basically southern sympathies are considered one of the major reasons for the Civil War. All of the good things he did will be undone by Trump, so his inaction here will be the only thing left.

2) Trump and co. start re-writing the history books and Biden is therefore remembered as the crooked fraud who managed to steal one last election before the MAGA takeover made America great again.

Neither of which will have Biden looking good.

Biden was a great president for Israel! Oh, you say he was the president of the US? Yikes.

Error1355 posted...

I think Biden's Presidency will be tarnished for dragging their feet so long on prosecuting Trump for his blatant crimes. No matter how well they did in everything else that is a black hole sized blemish on his record.

This.

People huff and puff about the genocide but American history books have casually shoved all of that under the rug for decades anyway. No reason to expect different in this particular case.

From the US' perspective I half expect the decade to be boiled down to "COVID happened" with little focus on Presidential policy (unless Trump starts a for real war, anyway)

Democrat apologists are the worst

Error1355 posted...

I think Biden's Presidency will be tarnished for dragging their feet so long on prosecuting Trump for his blatant crimes. No matter how well they did in everything else that is a black hole sized blemish on his record.

If you were expecting Joe Biden to suddenly start violating long standing traditions like the president will not interfere in Justice Department I dont know what to tell you.

And Im honestly not sure it would have mattered anyway with the Supreme Court.

Irony posted...

Democrat apologists are the worst

They're bad, but definitely not the worst.

Irony posted...

Democrat apologists are the worst

Worse than the actual criminals doing the bad stuff? Not to me.

He meant you nerds

nocturnal_traveler posted...

They're bad, but definitely not the worst.

I don't mean the literal worst

divot1338 posted...

If you were expecting Joe Biden to suddenly start violating long standing traditions like the president will not interfere in Justice Department I dont know what to tell you.

And Im honestly not sure it would have mattered anyway with the Supreme Court.

This is what I have been saying for a while. I am so frustrated that Trump is not in jail where he belongs. But it is no surprise to me that it has taken so long to prosecute Trump. There are so many built in norms and policies that make prosecution of a President or Presidential candidate so difficult, it would have been extremely difficult to get this done during the term. Especially after everything had to pause to consider the SC rulings on immunity.

And the thing is: there are generally good reasons for these norms and policies. We dont want for the justice system to be weaponized against political opponents-which is absolutely not what is happening here no matter how much Trump whines. And we dont want one branch of government unduly interfering with another. The problem is that our system of government never envisioned that the people would allow someone this obviously corrupt to ascend to power.

It is infuriating that Trump is not going to be held accountable for his obvious crimes. But I truly believe some folks are putting their anger in the wrong place. The courts were never going to be the best place to clean up this mess as long as Trump is the standard bearer for the Republican Party-because of those norms that have been a basic part of our government for a long time.

It is the voters who keep putting this guy in power and giving him the protections to evade the law. The issue is not that one of the most thorny prosecutions in history was slow, but that people keep voting for this corrupt, moronic con man.