Current Events > Dem Senator: "Biden deported more people than Trump"

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Kain_Highwind 01/30/25 11:18:41 PM #1:	https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1885023609871106126 "In the first week, Trump removed 7,300 people. On average, Biden was removing 15,000 a week. Under Biden 72% of ICE arrests were criminals. Under Trump it's dropped to around 50%. Trump is removing less people and less criminals. These guys are terrible at everything." ...I'm not sure "Hey we actually deported more people than Trump" is great messaging but you do you --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983871704] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1885023609871106126<quote>"In the first week, Trump removed 7,300 people. On average, Biden was removing 15,000 a week. Under Biden 72% of ICE arrests were criminals. Under Trump it's dropped to around 50%. Trump is removing less people and less criminals. These guys are terrible at everything."</quote>...I'm not sure "Hey we actually deported more people than Trump" is great messaging but you do you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 01/30/25 11:21:16 PM #2:	I was thinking the percentage of criminals going down is part of the point with them but according to these numbers the amount of non-criminals being deported is roughly the same --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Expanse, ST: Lower Decks, Silo, Arcane, Homeland <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:983871725] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>I was thinking the percentage of criminals going down is part of the point with them but according to these numbers the amount of non-criminals being deported is roughly the same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DodogamaRayBrst 01/30/25 11:21:45 PM #3:	"When Biden was president, 3 out of 4 arrested by ICE were criminals" Oh okay I like Biden now. <cite>DodogamaRayBrst posted [p:983871731] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>"When Biden was president, 3 out of 4 arrested by ICE were criminals"Oh okay I like Biden now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bandit_Keith 01/30/25 11:23:09 PM #4:	Democrats don't understand that facts don't matter. Republicans have already used the media to push their lies that Democrats are weak on immigration and soft on crime. No matter how many facts show otherwise. So all you're really doing is souring your actual voters while attempting to look tough to "undecided" voters. --- http://i.imgur.com/nq0Fn6a.jpg <cite>Bandit_Keith posted [p:983871741] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Democrats don't understand that facts don't matter. Republicans have already used the media to push their lies that Democrats are weak on immigration and soft on crime. No matter how many facts show otherwise. So all you're really doing is souring your actual voters while attempting to look tough to "undecided" voters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 01/30/25 11:24:14 PM #5:	Justin2Krelian posted... I was thinking the percentage of criminals going down is part of the point with them but according to these numbers the amount of non-criminals being deported is roughly the same You're right. Good catch. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:983871756] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Justin2Krelian posted... </cite><quote>I was thinking the percentage of criminals going down is part of the point with them but according to these numbers the amount of non-criminals being deported is roughly the same</quote>You're right. Good catch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 01/30/25 11:25:06 PM #6:	Bandit_Keith posted... Democrats don't understand that facts don't matter. Republicans have already used the media to push their lies that Democrats are weak on immigration and soft on crime. No matter how many facts show otherwise. So all you're really doing is souring your actual voters while attempting to look tough to "undecided" voters. "Hey that fascist thing that people REALLY hate Trump for? Actually we're better at it!" doesn't seem like a winning message --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983871763] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Bandit_Keith posted... </cite><quote>Democrats don't understand that facts don't matter. Republicans have already used the media to push their lies that Democrats are weak on immigration and soft on crime. No matter how many facts show otherwise. So all you're really doing is souring your actual voters while attempting to look tough to "undecided" voters.</quote>"Hey that fascist thing that people REALLY hate Trump for? Actually we're better at it!" doesn't seem like a winning message</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quorthon109 01/30/25 11:25:41 PM #7:	Bandit_Keith posted... Democrats don't understand that facts don't matter. Republicans have already used the media to push their lies that Democrats are weak on immigration and soft on crime. No matter how many facts show otherwise. So all you're really doing is souring your actual voters while attempting to look tough to "undecided" voters. Came in to say this in a less articulate way --- http://i.imgur.com/Kjo08.jpg <cite>Quorthon109 posted [p:983871769] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Bandit_Keith posted... </cite><quote>Democrats don't understand that facts don't matter. Republicans have already used the media to push their lies that Democrats are weak on immigration and soft on crime. No matter how many facts show otherwise. So all you're really doing is souring your actual voters while attempting to look tough to "undecided" voters.</quote>Came in to say this in a less articulate way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 01/30/25 11:27:13 PM #8:	This will not help with a single anti-immigration voter. Democrats are always and forever an open borders party in their mind no matter how many people are deported under Democrats. I don't know what sequence of events it would take to prove it to Democratic politicians. We're not getting out of this without building an alternative media messaging infrastructure. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:983871780] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>This will not help with a single anti-immigration voter. Democrats are always and forever an open borders party in their mind no matter how many people are deported under Democrats. I don't know what sequence of events it would take to prove it to Democratic politicians. We're not getting out of this without building an alternative media messaging infrastructure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kanaya413 01/30/25 11:28:17 PM #9:	Well one of these people just took office <cite>Kanaya413 posted [p:983871790] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Well one of these people just took office</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 01/31/25 9:27:39 AM #10:	legendary_zell posted... This will not help with a single anti-immigration voter. Democrats are always and forever an open borders party in their mind no matter how many people are deported under Democrats. I don't know what sequence of events it would take to prove it to Democratic politicians. We're not getting out of this without building an alternative media messaging infrastructure. --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983874672] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite><quote>This will not help with a single anti-immigration voter. Democrats are always and forever an open borders party in their mind no matter how many people are deported under Democrats. I don't know what sequence of events it would take to prove it to Democratic politicians. We're not getting out of this without building an alternative media messaging infrastructure.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 01/31/25 9:29:34 AM #11:	This reminds of when Democrats went on Twitter to try to score points with voters by saying they'd have coup'd Venezuela more effectively --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:983874685] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>This reminds of when Democrats went on Twitter to try to score points with voters by saying they'd have coup'd Venezuela more effectively </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 01/31/25 9:30:31 AM #12:	Kain_Highwind posted... https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1885023609871106126 ...I'm not sure "Hey we actually deported more people than Trump" is great messaging but you do you Not really surprised you are intentionally spinning what he said. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:983874693] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1885023609871106126...I'm not sure "Hey we actually deported more people than Trump" is great messaging but you do you</quote>Not really surprised you are intentionally spinning what he said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KaZooo 01/31/25 9:32:36 AM #13:	Feel like this is just gaslighting in general --- Competing every night, both ends, shoot inside/outside, fast break, transition, Monta Ellis have it all <cite>KaZooo posted [p:983874714] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Feel like this is just gaslighting in general </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 01/31/25 9:34:44 AM #14:	asdf8562 posted... Not really surprised you are intentionally spinning what he said. how is it a spin he's bragging about dems being better at deporting than trump --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983874734] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>asdf8562 posted... </cite><quote>Not really surprised you are intentionally spinning what he said.</quote>how is it a spinhe's bragging about dems being better at deporting than trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vegy 01/31/25 9:38:57 AM #15:	I get what's he trying to say but dis just means da GOP will try harder and start aggressively arresting US citizens to show deir people dey are deporting more den --- https://i.imgur.com/EoGWPMu.gif https://i.imgur.com/dWmUFeV.gif https://i.imgur.com/xpoEaeu.gif <cite>Vegy posted [p:983874772] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>I get what's he trying to say but dis just means da GOP will try harder and start aggressively arresting US citizens to show deir people dey are deporting more den</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cynrascal 01/31/25 9:39:26 AM #16:	Attempts at crossing the border was on a downward rate since Obama. But we all know that black man bad. --- Asocial, not introverted. Know the difference. Maybe those JRPGs villains were on to something about humanity being trash. <cite>Cynrascal posted [p:983874779] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Attempts at crossing the border was on a downward rate since Obama. But we all know that black man bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 01/31/25 9:41:17 AM #17:	This was not the flex I was expecting from a Democrat, but it makes sense after it's been explained to me. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:983874789] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>This was not the flex I was expecting from a Democrat, but it makes sense after it's been explained to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 01/31/25 9:47:35 AM #19:	Trump isnt even as good at being a racist as Biden. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:983874850] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Trump isnt even as good at being a racist as Biden.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 01/31/25 9:47:43 AM #20:	Chris Murphy is a dumbass and I wish wed collectively ignore him --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:983874851] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Chris Murphy is a dumbass and I wish wed collectively ignore him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
imagine606 01/31/25 9:49:39 AM #21:	The point seems to be that Trump is all about optics and making a public spectacle of these things rather than actually being effective at them (good or bad). <cite>imagine606 posted [p:983874864] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>The point seems to be that Trump is all about optics and making a public spectacle of these things rather than actually being effective at them (good or bad).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 01/31/25 9:53:09 AM #22:	imagine606 posted... The point seems to be that Trump is all about optics and making a public spectacle of these things rather than actually being effective at them (good or bad). This. But count on Kain to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:983874893] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>imagine606 posted... </cite><quote>The point seems to be that Trump is all about optics and making a public spectacle of these things rather than actually being effective at them (good or bad).</quote>This. But count on Kain to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 01/31/25 9:53:28 AM #23:	Open the borders --- ifit'sanewbeginning,thenidon'twanttoKNOWifitsnotworthpretending,th enidon'twantoKNOWi'mjustsosickoflistening,whatshouldiwanttoKNOW? <cite>josifrees posted [p:983874896] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Open the borders</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 01/31/25 9:53:40 AM #24:	Murphiroth posted... This. But count on Kain to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions. Its bad optics no mater how you slice it Saying "This guy sucks so much that he can't even deport as many as we do" doesn't just make him look weak, it makes you look bad too --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983874897] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>This. But count on Kain to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions.</quote>Its bad optics no mater how you slice itSaying "This guy sucks so much that he can't even deport as many as we do" doesn't just make him look weak, it makes you look bad too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2001mark 01/31/25 9:55:44 AM #25:	He'll swim out to accept these facts many ppl are saying. <cite>2001mark posted [p:983874919] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>He'll swim out to accept these facts many ppl are saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 01/31/25 9:55:54 AM #26:	imagine606 posted... The point seems to be that Trump is all about optics and making a public spectacle of these things rather than actually being effective at them (good or bad). Trump is all about lining his pockets. It's unquestionably the reason he became a politician in the first place. Like, one day he was asking an accountant if there were any other ways to pay less on taxes and the accountant answered "you'd have to get the president to adjust the tax brackets" thinking that would be a definitive "no." --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:983874922] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>imagine606 posted... </cite><quote>The point seems to be that Trump is all about optics and making a public spectacle of these things rather than actually being effective at them (good or bad).</quote>Trump is all about lining his pockets. It's unquestionably the reason he became a politician in the first place. Like, one day he was asking an accountant if there were any other ways to pay less on taxes and the accountant answered "you'd have to get the president to adjust the tax brackets" thinking that would be a definitive "no."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 01/31/25 9:57:03 AM #27:	Kain_Highwind posted... Its bad optics no mater how you slice it Saying "This guy sucks so much that he can't even deport as many as we do" doesn't just make him look weak, it makes you look bad too My point about you still stands no matter how you slice it. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:983874932] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>Its bad optics no mater how you slice itSaying "This guy sucks so much that he can't even deport as many as we do" doesn't just make him look weak, it makes you look bad too</quote>My point about you still stands no matter how you slice it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 01/31/25 10:01:02 AM #28:	Murphiroth posted... My point about you still stands no matter how you slice it. So what he tweeted was good? --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983874971] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>My point about you still stands no matter how you slice it.</quote>So what he tweeted was good?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 01/31/25 10:05:35 AM #29:	Kain_Highwind posted... So what he tweeted was good? It's cute when you desperately try to spin shit like this instead of defending yourself, because you know I'm correct. I never said the tweet was good, but keep pretending I did! <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:983875012] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>So what he tweeted was good?</quote>It's cute when you desperately try to spin shit like this instead of defending yourself, because you know I'm correct.I never said the tweet was good, but keep pretending I did!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 01/31/25 10:06:16 AM #30:	Insanely bad instincts --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:983875019] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Insanely bad instincts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/31/25 10:06:29 AM #31:	Yeah but saying that now is challenging Trump to beat it. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala <cite>creativerealms posted [p:983875022] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Yeah but saying that now is challenging Trump to beat it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Board_hunter567 01/31/25 10:10:45 AM #32:	The lesson Democrats have learned is that they need to start bragging about deportation and stop talking about civil liberties, and if their voters don't like it they need to understand that it's just PR and all part of the proven, never before failed campaign strategy of moving further right optically to attract Republican voters. --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. <cite>Board_hunter567 posted [p:983875054] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>The lesson Democrats have learned is that they need to start bragging about deportation and stop talking about civil liberties, and if their voters don't like it they need to understand that it's just PR and all part of the proven, never before failed campaign strategy of moving further right optically to attract Republican voters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 01/31/25 10:10:46 AM #33:	Murphiroth posted... It's cute when you desperately try to spin shit like this instead of defending yourself, because you know I'm correct. I never said the tweet was good, but keep pretending I did! defend myself from what? Pointing out that its a tonedeaf tweet? --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983875055] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>It's cute when you desperately try to spin shit like this instead of defending yourself, because you know I'm correct.I never said the tweet was good, but keep pretending I did!</quote>defend myself from what? Pointing out that its a tonedeaf tweet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charismic_Zach_Gowen 01/31/25 10:11:20 AM #34:	I get what he's saying but delivery was terrible. The message should have: "When Biden was in office, we were effectively identifying and removing violent criminals at nearly triple the rate that Trump is after his cruel policies have made it easier for dangers to sneak through the cracks." --- In Brady We Trust. I've finally realized the secret to making a successful Mearn topic. Make it about CZG - Mearn <cite>Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted [p:983875058] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>I get what he's saying but delivery was terrible. The message should have:"When Biden was in office, we were effectively identifying and removing violent criminals at nearly triple the rate that Trump is after his cruel policies have made it easier for dangers to sneak through the cracks."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 01/31/25 10:11:38 AM #35:	The right criticized Obama and called him the deporter in chief. One of the big reasons Donnie got re-elected was because of immigration. It absolutely should be pointed out to people that a. the right is full of shit when they say the left supports and pushes open border policies and b. the left can do not just a better job in regards to immigration numbers wise, but also a better job more humanely. This is another case of democrats being "bad as messaging" because people refuse to let them message. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:983875060] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>The right criticized Obama and called him the deporter in chief. One of the big reasons Donnie got re-elected was because of immigration. It absolutely should be pointed out to people that a. the right is full of shit when they say the left supports and pushes open border policies and b. the left can do not just a better job in regards to immigration numbers wise, but also a better job more humanely.This is another case of democrats being "bad as messaging" because people refuse to let them message.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 01/31/25 10:12:13 AM #36:	Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted... I get what he's saying but delivery was terrible. The message should have: "When Biden was in office, we were effectively identifying and removing violent criminals at nearly triple the rate that Trump is after his cruel policies have made it easier for dangers to sneak through the cracks." That I will agree with though. It could have been stated in a much better way. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:983875066] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted... </cite><quote>I get what he's saying but delivery was terrible. The message should have:"When Biden was in office, we were effectively identifying and removing violent criminals at nearly triple the rate that Trump is after his cruel policies have made it easier for dangers to sneak through the cracks."</quote>That I will agree with though. It could have been stated in a much better way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 01/31/25 10:12:50 AM #37:	Kain_Highwind posted... defend myself from what? Pointing out that its a tonedeaf tweet? Nononono, buddy, stop shifting the subject. I'm talking about you, and your tendency to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions. You're a gimmick poster. The tweet isn't great, but I'm not defending it, just pointing out your boring ass schtick. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:983875075] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>defend myself from what? Pointing out that its a tonedeaf tweet?</quote>Nononono, buddy, stop shifting the subject. I'm talking about you, and your tendency to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions. You're a gimmick poster.The tweet isn't great, but I'm not defending it, just pointing out your boring ass schtick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charismic_Zach_Gowen 01/31/25 10:13:01 AM #38:	Kain_Highwind posted... defend myself from what? Pointing out that its a tonedeaf tweet? It's not a tone-deaf tweet. It's poorly worded. He's angling at the fact that Biden's immigration policy was not only predominantly targetting immigrants with violent records, but doing so at a greater pace than Trump is while targetting abuelas. --- In Brady We Trust. I've finally realized the secret to making a successful Mearn topic. Make it about CZG - Mearn <cite>Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted [p:983875077] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>defend myself from what? Pointing out that its a tonedeaf tweet?</quote>It's not a tone-deaf tweet. It's poorly worded. He's angling at the fact that Biden's immigration policy was not only predominantly targetting immigrants with violent records, but doing so at a greater pace than Trump is while targetting abuelas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain_Highwind 01/31/25 10:13:52 AM #39:	Murphiroth posted... Nononono, buddy, stop shifting the subject. I'm talking about you, and your tendency to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions. You're a gimmick poster. The tweet isn''t great, but I'm not defending it, just pointing out your boring ass schtick. I don't shrug at Trump's actions he's a shitty wannabe fascist Its not a shtick to see a tweet like this at a delicate time like now and be all "Why did you tweet this" --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain_Highwind posted [p:983875082] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>Nononono, buddy, stop shifting the subject. I'm talking about you, and your tendency to whine about the Dems while shrugging at Trump's actions. You're a gimmick poster.The tweet isn''t great, but I'm not defending it, just pointing out your boring ass schtick.</quote>I don't shrug at Trump's actions he's a shitty wannabe fascistIts not a shtick to see a tweet like this at a delicate time like now and be all "Why did you tweet this"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 01/31/25 4:44:37 PM #40:	Kain_Highwind posted... Its bad optics no mater how you slice it Saying "This guy sucks so much that he can't even deport as many as we do" doesn't just make him look weak, it makes you look bad too And yet those "optics" need not apply to dear leader Trump/Musk. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:983879455] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>Its bad optics no mater how you slice itSaying "This guy sucks so much that he can't even deport as many as we do" doesn't just make him look weak, it makes you look bad too</quote>And yet those "optics" need not apply to dear leader Trump/Musk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
imagine606 02/01/25 12:07:56 AM #41:	ReturnOfDevsman posted... Trump is all about lining his pockets. It's unquestionably the reason he became a politician in the first place. Like, one day he was asking an accountant if there were any other ways to pay less on taxes and the accountant answered "you'd have to get the president to adjust the tax brackets" thinking that would be a definitive "no." Politically, were talking about as far as satisfying his base, hes all about optics. The only things hes done since he became president that have actually had any real teeth to them are his Supreme Court appointments (which have, to be fair, done a lot of damage), and the way hes emboldened the worst people in America. The rest has all been about putting on a show, but actually having a low impact. <cite>imagine606 posted [p:983883668] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfDevsman posted... </cite><quote>Trump is all about lining his pockets. It's unquestionably the reason he became a politician in the first place. Like, one day he was asking an accountant if there were any other ways to pay less on taxes and the accountant answered "you'd have to get the president to adjust the tax brackets" thinking that would be a definitive "no."</quote>Politically, were talking about as far as satisfying his base, hes all about optics. The only things hes done since he became president that have actually had any real teeth to them are his Supreme Court appointments (which have, to be fair, done a lot of damage), and the way hes emboldened the worst people in America. The rest has all been about putting on a show, but actually having a low impact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 02/01/25 12:18:48 AM #42:	Trump runs on immigration and deporting people. People deserve to know he's doing a worse job than Biden(and Obama) at doing so. It really highlights the fact that Biden was processing more deportations but never felt the need to open up Guantanamo to house them. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:983883730] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Trump runs on immigration and deporting people. People deserve to know he's doing a worse job than Biden(and Obama) at doing so. It really highlights the fact that Biden was processing more deportations but never felt the need to open up Guantanamo to house them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 02/01/25 12:44:22 AM #43:	Too little too late for this news. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:983883852] in Dem Senato... [t:80927244]...</cite> <quote>Too little too late for this news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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