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Beany
03/10/25 2:35:50 PM
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During an interview with Collider for the press tour for 'In the Lost Lands' movie, GRRM talked about adaptations of his works and gave a small update on Winds:

During the conversation, Martin also talked extensively about the adaptations of his books and difficulties, such as budget restraints, and how to properly succeed with an adaptation. "You try to make the story as good as it can be, and some fans will like it, some fans will not like it," Martin said. "You're always going to get criticism, but you've got to keep trying. You've got to try to do every one the best it can possibly be."

Admitting that while the projects and the process could be fun and exciting, "some of them are frustrating, and they become less fun." However, he emphasized that when a project does come together, and it's good, then it can be wonderful. And for the fans who are still unimpressed by an adaptation, he noted that the books would always be there. He said:

"There's always the books, and I'm aware of that people think that But no, I have to get back. I have to finish the books. That's the one thing I'm completely in control of. There's no budget limitations. There's no other executives on the studio side that I have to please, or other writers with different views. The books are what I'm going to make them. And, I think the one I'm writing is coming pretty well, but I wish it would come faster."

https://collider.com/a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms-season-2-george-rr-martin-comments/

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PMarth2002
03/10/25 2:36:56 PM
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So would everyone else george.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/10/25 2:37:27 PM
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Shut the fuck up, George

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Kaldrenthebold
03/10/25 2:37:32 PM
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Shut, the, fuck, up, George, and, write, the, god, damned, book, if, you, want, it, out, faster, you, ass

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Were_Wyrm
03/10/25 2:41:17 PM
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Just use AI to finish it, would probably be better anyway.

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boomgetchopped3
03/10/25 2:41:35 PM
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Stop interviewing him. If he waves just keep walking until he finishes

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legendary_zell
03/10/25 2:42:19 PM
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My brother in Christ, you're the author!

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Strider102
03/10/25 2:42:41 PM
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Here's a crazy thought, maybe if he actually wrote it would come out faster.

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Mechu
03/10/25 2:44:21 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Shut the fuck up, George
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Alucard188
03/10/25 2:45:09 PM
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No one fucking cares anymore, George. You had your time to finish the books. It's been 10 fucking years at this point. Fuck you.

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PiOverlord
03/10/25 2:47:07 PM
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He said he got hundreds of pages done, but I'm sorta thinking it looking like SpongeBob essay in all reality.

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Kaldrenthebold
03/10/25 2:47:10 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
No one fucking cares anymore, George. You had your time to finish the books. It's been 10 fucking years at this point. Fuck you.

14 actually. Dance was 2011 for fuck's sakes, this guy is a waste.

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TendoDRM
03/10/25 2:48:33 PM
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-_-

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pauIie
03/10/25 2:48:35 PM
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lol it's literally up to you lmao

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MartavisBryant
03/10/25 2:50:45 PM
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You can't rush perfection. I want my wieners presented as attentively and lovingly as humanly possible.

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cloudrivera
03/10/25 2:53:03 PM
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Does he just have writer's block?

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MC_BatCommander
03/10/25 2:55:53 PM
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I think what baffles me most about him is why he feels the need to lead people on like this. Either shut the fuck up about writing it, or say directly why you aren't writing it.

I don't have any investment in the series and find his behavior annoying

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dummy420
03/10/25 2:55:57 PM
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https://youtu.be/lle4t4o8EDk?si=TVWC1AtWni0ZFY3O

Just doing my duty. Skit is 9 years old.

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ai123
03/10/25 2:56:05 PM
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Do what you like, George.

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boomgetchopped3
03/10/25 2:56:10 PM
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cloudrivera posted...
Does he just have writer's block?

His entire life changed after the show. Hes no longer just sitting at home writing. And when he does it isnt Winds of Winter

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s0nicfan
03/10/25 3:03:32 PM
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Beany posted...
During an interview with Collider for the press tour for 'In the Lost Lands' movie, GRRM

I've said it before and I'll say it again: people need to stop inviting him to events until he finishes his damn book. Rather that him saying 10 times a year he's working on it, everyone should stop calling him for anything and he can get press again when he goes to THEM to say it's done.

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TomClark
03/10/25 3:03:45 PM
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Bless him, he's trying to troll everyone again, but he doesn't realise that successful trolling relies on there being someone - anyone - who actually still gives a shit about the book.

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Euripides
03/10/25 3:04:34 PM
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Something something boiled leather

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Scintillant
03/10/25 3:07:49 PM
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That joke from Logan Lucky is evergreen

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theAteam
03/10/25 3:13:52 PM
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Reminder that James S. A. Corey completed 9 books, 8 novellas, a role playing board game, a video game, a podcast, 4 comics, and collaborated on a full 6-season TV show with two separate networks for The Expanse all in the time since ADWD came out.

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Beany
03/10/25 4:33:50 PM
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theAteam posted...
Reminder that James S. A. Corey completed 9 books, 8 novellas, a role playing board game, a video game, a podcast, 4 comics, and collaborated on a full 6-season TV show with two separate networks for The Expanse all in the time since ADWD came out.

The funny thing is they are proteges of George's. Good thing the apples fell far from the tree, lol.

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Bass
03/10/25 4:36:00 PM
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It's a shame George R.R. Martin is too slow for old George. If only he could do something!

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/10/25 4:41:04 PM
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theAteam posted...
Reminder that James S. A. Corey completed 9 books, 8 novellas, a role playing board game, a video game, a podcast, 4 comics, and collaborated on a full 6-season TV show with two separate networks for The Expanse all in the time since ADWD came out.
George R.R. Martin, please write, and write faster
You're not going to get any younger, you know
Winter is Coming, I'm growing impatient
And you've still got two whole damn books left to go
So write, George, write like the wind

Lewis took five years to Chronicle Narnia, Tolkien had twelve years, and Rowling took ten
Lucas spent nearly three decades on Star Wars, and we all know how that one turned out in the end.

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DrizztLink
03/10/25 4:47:11 PM
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theAteam posted...
Reminder that James S. A. Corey completed 9 books, 8 novellas, a role playing board game, a video game, a podcast, 4 comics, and collaborated on a full 6-season TV show with two separate networks for The Expanse all in the time since ADWD came out.
In GRRM's defense, James S..A. Corey is two people.

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Iyami
03/10/25 4:52:36 PM
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Has anyone ever just said to him "George, at this point the expectations are so high for what this book would be like they are impossible to reach, stop worrying about it being perfect and just write the damn thing, you're going to get whining regardless but your previous books had plenty of real fans who I'm sure will enjoy it as much as any of the others. "

He doesn't need to do another million revisions, he doesn't need to start over, he doesn't need to try and make every plotline end with as much gravitas as another if he can't fit it all in; at this point he has almost certainly done more writing on winds than any other book even taking into account literal years and years of doing nothing. Your writing has been fine my guy, just trust yourself and get it done.

I would rather have a finished good winds of winter than a perfect one that never happens

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ConfusedTorchic
03/10/25 4:54:38 PM
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it would come faster if he typed more than a single word of it a year

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ShaneMcComez
03/10/25 4:56:22 PM
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If human beings lived twice as long as they do now. George would still have a difficult time getting those final books out in this century.

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Sandalorn
03/10/25 5:00:56 PM
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theAteam posted...
Reminder that James S. A. Corey completed 9 books, 8 novellas, a role playing board game, a video game, a podcast, 4 comics, and collaborated on a full 6-season TV show with two separate networks for The Expanse all in the time since ADWD came out.

Steven Erikson completed his entire 'Malazan Book of the Fallen' series of 10 books (8 of 10 over a 1000 pages) in 11 years and it is VASTLY more complicated and large in scope.

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mistymermaid
03/10/25 5:01:29 PM
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The book probably is just that long, and intricate with exhausting details on the world's minutiae.

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McMarbles
03/10/25 5:33:21 PM
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You know what would help it come out faster?
Writing it.

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theAteam
03/10/25 5:36:35 PM
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Beany posted...
The funny thing is they are proteges of George's. Good thing the apples fell far from the tree, lol.

Yeah I kind of hope even though he said the series dies with him that he would hand it over to them if he goes before it's done. They already write in that pov style and I think they could emulate him well enough.

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Charged151
03/10/25 5:37:47 PM
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Sandalorn posted...
Martin just doesn't give a single shit about his readers
Basically this. He could have easily hired people to help him write it with his guidance and it would have been done with minimal time loss on his part (so he could keep living his dream of working on movies/shows). That and him saying he wants all his unfinished manuscripts burned when he dies shows he doesn't care about the fans getting the last 2 books.

Sad thing is, this behavior from his has hurt other authors due to fans being leery of starting a series which may not finish. Jerk.

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s0nicfan
03/10/25 5:37:54 PM
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theAteam posted...
Yeah I kind of hope even though he said the series dies with him that he would hand it over to them if he goes before it's done. They already write in that pov style and I think they could emulate him well enough.

I'd rather it dies with him at this point. It should be listed as an unfinished work, left unfinished entirely because George couldn't be bothered, so that it lives alongside the rest of his legacy. "Oh, did he die a tragic death?" "No, he got lazy and quit."

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mercurydude
03/10/25 5:43:44 PM
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If it was me and the damn thing was causing me that much frustration, I would hire another author to write it with me so they could help me get over the hurdles and also speed things up. Or give them a detailed outline and pay them to write it for me.

It wouldn't matter if it was good, bad, or mediocre, it would be worth it just to get the millstone off my neck.

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vycebrand2
03/10/25 5:45:00 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
My brother in Christ, you're the author!
At this point just have someone ghost write it. Give them a big fat check and a NDA. You already gave control over the story to the TV shows. You can give them a outline of the remaining story and have them connect the dots. You can do what ever you want George during that.

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Shamino
03/10/25 5:56:32 PM
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mercurydude posted...
If it was me and the damn thing was causing me that much frustration, I would hire another author to write it with me so they could help me get over the hurdles and also speed things up. Or give them a detailed outline and pay them to write it for me.

It wouldn't matter if it was good, bad, or mediocre, it would be worth it just to get the millstone off my neck.

He could hire Patrick Rothfuss to help finish the novel, then in turn George can help Patrick finish the last book of the King Killer Chronicles, also awaiting its next book for 14 years.

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DrizztLink
03/10/25 6:02:08 PM
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Shamino posted...
He could hire Patrick Rothfuss to help finish the novel, then in turn George can help Patrick finish the last book of the King Killer Chronicles, also awaiting its next book for 14 years.
Feels a little like two alcoholics showing up for their first AA meeting and deciding to be each other's sponsor.

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M1Astray
03/10/25 6:12:25 PM
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I'm not normally one to compare because of how lacking in class it typically is but...

*Holds up copies of Oathbringer, Rhythm of War, Wind and Truth totalling over 3800 pages*

Not even half of what Sanderson has written and published in that time either.

If GRRM had written half a page a day over this period of time he'd be done with both Winds and Dream of Spring.

As someone who started regularly exercising during that time and stuck with it I find GRRM's lack of ability to commit to even small things rather contemptible TBH. On the bright side I made a promise that in the event he finished the series I would attempt to slog my way through it, I made that promise with confidence eight or so years ago that I would never actually have to make good on it. Thus far it seems like I was spot on and that is one dreary depressing fantasy world I won't ever have to engage with.

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DrizztLink
03/10/25 6:16:41 PM
#44:


M1Astray posted...
If GRRM had written half a page a day over this period of time he'd be done with both Winds and Dream of Spring.
I don't remember if it was an interview with both King and GRRM or if they just asked King about it, but it went a little like this:

"How do you maintain such output?"
"I just commit to writing at least one page a day."
"How?"
"...by treating it like my fucking job, because it is. Next question."

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Cory898
03/10/25 6:25:29 PM
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At first he probably just wanted a well deserved break that dragged on a little too long. But once the fans turned on him Ill bet he fell two thousand percent deeper into fuck it mode. Why bother at this point for the most abusive fanbase in history? His apathy was repaid a thousand fold in overblown hatred.

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Toonstrack
03/10/25 6:31:08 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I've said it before and I'll say it again: people need to stop inviting him to events until he finishes his damn book. Rather that him saying 10 times a year he's working on it, everyone should stop calling him for anything and he can get press again when he goes to THEM to say it's done.

Lol its not a moral failing for him to not finish a fictional book series. No one's going to not invite him over this.

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Sonixs
03/10/25 6:32:38 PM
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I really think he wrote himself into a hole with Meereen. Throw in the Greyjoy stuff that popped up in AFFC and he's got way too much shit going on with those two plotlines.
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vycebrand2
03/10/25 6:32:50 PM
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He had 7 years from the time the show started when Dance came out to when the show ended. He had plenty of time.
Its him saying he told DND the ending. The ending we saw was the end. They covered the main points from Dance on (latter half of season 5, 6, 7, and 8. He would be covering ground already covered. So he gave up. What he should have done is finish the books before the show ever started.

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Fiyun
03/10/25 6:39:16 PM
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Stephen freaking King wrote the Dark Tower series in roughly that time frame, George...

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kawalimus
03/10/25 6:45:09 PM
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Sonixs posted...
I really think he wrote himself into a hole with Meereen. Throw in the Greyjoy stuff that popped up in AFFC and he's got way too much shit going on with those two plotlines.

Yeah, it's a combination of overexpanding and simply losing interest in the series. He might not admit that publicly, but it's very clear.
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