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Geoglow93
03/22/25 9:31:17 PM
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Charizard is not a dragon.

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NeonPhoenix
03/22/25 9:37:57 PM
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Lugia isnt a water type

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Mistere_Man
03/22/25 9:41:05 PM
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Not psychic types, but can use the attacks I believe. That just means they dont let it define them they are like water and Water can take any form. It drifts without effort one moment then pounds down in a torrent the very next. Psyduck Bebop

See you space Psyduck...

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Spidey5
03/22/25 9:50:57 PM
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So that's why using dark attacks for 20+ years didn't work...

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McmadnessV3
03/22/25 10:16:43 PM
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Gyarados can't fly.

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Mistere_Man
03/22/25 10:18:38 PM
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McmadnessV3 posted...
Gyarados can't fly.

It's called floating with style.

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BlackScythe0
03/22/25 10:50:47 PM
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Who told you they were psychic?
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Spartan_Jedi117
03/22/25 10:55:57 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Who told you they were psychic?
That's my question, too. They do learn a few psychic moves naturally, but that's it

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Bass
03/22/25 11:03:51 PM
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Spartan_Jedi117 posted...
That's my question, too. They do learn a few psychic moves naturally, but that's it
Seem to be a common misconception in my experience. I imagine it's from the name PSYduck and the fact that they can use psychic attacks.

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Nukazie
03/22/25 11:09:03 PM
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geodude/magnemite line don't float

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Tsukasa1891
03/22/25 11:11:29 PM
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Pikachu is terrible in competitive.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Who told you they were psychic?
The anime made psyduck look like it's a psychic type every time it's headache got to strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2nyQCkEprY

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BigG777
03/22/25 11:33:12 PM
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Yeah I thought Butterfree was a psychic/bug for the longest time back in the day. I mean it does learn confusion right away lol.
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Mistere_Man
03/23/25 12:01:29 AM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
Pikachu is terrible in competitive.

The anime made psyduck look like it's a psychic type every time it's headache got to strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2nyQCkEprY


Tsukasa1891 posted...
Pikachu is terrible in competitive.

The anime made psyduck look like it's a psychic type every time it's headache got to strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2nyQCkEprY

Mob Psycho with ducks.

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Umbreon
03/23/25 12:12:12 AM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
Pikachu is terrible in competitive.

The anime made psyduck look like it's a psychic type every time it's headache got to strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2nyQCkEprY


Also Golduck is basically "Psychic coded".

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Mortainous28
03/23/25 1:23:10 AM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
The anime made psyduck look like it's a psychic type every time it's headache got to strong.

I the anime writers never touched the games and it showed.

Most of the time they just had Pikachu... Pikachu harder to win fights that Pikachu would get clapped in.

Not disregarding your point, the anime had me assuming things as well. The Indigo League team just didnt get it.

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TetsuoS2
03/23/25 1:29:54 AM
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Mortainous28 posted...
I the anime writers never touched the games and it showed.

Most of the time they just had Pikachu... Pikachu harder to win fights that Pikachu would get clapped in.

Not disregarding your point, the anime had me assuming things as well. The Indigo League team just didnt get it.

That's how shounen stories work, beat insurmountable odds kinda thing, so ignoring gameplay stuff makes perfect sense to me.

And to sell Pikachu toys.

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Kalk
03/23/25 1:30:18 AM
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Physic is actually a crap typing, especially for defense. Too many weaknesses.

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FL81
03/23/25 2:51:45 AM
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If Psyduck and Golduck switched names, things would make a lot more sense

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QJD1381
03/23/25 3:13:37 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

A lizard with wings not being able to learn fly? That'd be like a Pokemon whose whole gimmick is having a giant tongue always hanging out not being able to learn lick.

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JustaSandwich
03/23/25 3:54:11 AM
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McmadnessV3 posted...
Gyarados can't fly.

What's he doing here then

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Piplup_Sniper
03/23/25 4:31:17 AM
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Mortainous28 posted...
I the anime writers never touched the games and it showed.

Most of the time they just had Pikachu... Pikachu harder to win fights that Pikachu would get clapped in.

Not disregarding your point, the anime had me assuming things as well. The Indigo League team just didnt get it.
The writers of the original anime did. Takeshi Shudo, the late headwriter of the original anime, mentioned they had them play the games in his blog.

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Accolon
03/23/25 4:34:45 AM
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JustaSandwich posted...
What's he doing here then



Falling with style

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Hejiru
03/23/25 4:42:26 AM
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Kalk posted...
Physic is actually a crap typing, especially for defense. Too many weaknesses.

In Gen 1, Psychic was god typing.

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NeonPhoenix
03/23/25 7:32:42 AM
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Kalk posted...
Physic is actually a crap typing, especially for defense. Too many weaknesses.
Too many weakness? It only has 3.

Too many weakness would be Ice or Grass type >_> Those types suck, especially grass

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Spartan_Jedi117
03/23/25 8:29:46 AM
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Hejiru posted...
In Gen 1, Psychic was god typing.
Very true. Iirc, ghost and psychic were so broken, dark type (evil type in Japan apparently) was made to help balance them out. Also, I think gairy was added to not to help balance out dragon type, but to make poison feel more viable. Prior to Gen 6, only grass was weak to poison

NeonPhoenix posted...
Too many weakness? It only has 3.

Too many weakness would be Ice or Grass type >_> Those types suck, especially grass
I shalt tolerate slander against Torterra, Sceptile, Serperior, and Chestnaught!

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-Crissaegrim-
03/23/25 8:33:19 AM
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Golduck also isnt gold either. It's blue.

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NO2_Fiend
03/23/25 8:35:35 AM
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Psychic has been strong every gen. I usually front my team with Kadabra and I've easily beaten every game with little effort.

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ViewtifulGrave
03/23/25 8:42:59 AM
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This is how you weed out the people that never played the games.

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VeggetaX
03/23/25 8:49:50 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Who told you they were psychic?
The show

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random_man9119
03/23/25 9:25:34 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
The show

I would also blame the games... Since even the Gen 1 Dex entries mention Psychic powers

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70189b22.jpg

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Mistere_Man
03/23/25 2:35:18 PM
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-Crissaegrim- posted...
Golduck also isnt gold either. It's blue.

It isnt Gold uck its Gol Duck

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gol

Etymology
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Umbreon
03/23/25 2:42:32 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
It isnt Gold uck its Gol Duck

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gol

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With that BST?

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Mistere_Man
03/23/25 2:51:03 PM
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Umbreon posted...
With that BST?

They gave a giant rock snake less strength than a bird I believe.

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-Crissaegrim-
03/23/25 4:54:28 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
It isnt Gold uck its Gol Duck

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gol

Etymology
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Is that the same case for Golbat?

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KogaSteelfang
03/23/25 5:16:07 PM
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The Pokedex in Red, Blue, Yellow, Crystal, Leaf Green, Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, Let's go Eevee, Let's go Pikachu, and Shield all say it's using psychic powers. The rest just call it "mysterious power."

So, it's not hard to imagine that a pokemon named Psyduck, which uses Psychic moves, and the games tell you are psychic, would actually be psychic type. The games actively mislead players about it.

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DrizztLink
03/23/25 5:26:04 PM
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Spartan_Jedi117 posted...
Also, I think gairy was added to not to help balance out dragon type,
The natural enemy of the dragon: the misspelled Gary

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Mistere_Man
03/23/25 6:36:13 PM
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-Crissaegrim- posted...
Is that the same case for Golbat?

Very possible. Obviously I am not the authority on this so I could be completely mistaken on all this and just some crazy loon on the internet spouting a bunch of crap which if so I apologize.

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Mistere_Man
03/23/25 6:58:31 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Correct! Now bow to my undeniable greatness!

Just kidding obviously.


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ViewtifulGrave
03/23/25 11:59:34 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
The Pokedex in Red, Blue, Yellow, Crystal, Leaf Green, Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, Let's go Eevee, Let's go Pikachu, and Shield all say it's using psychic powers. The rest just call it "mysterious power."

So, it's not hard to imagine that a pokemon named Psyduck, which uses Psychic moves, and the games tell you are psychic, would actually be psychic type. The games actively mislead players about it.
How could the games mislead anyone when Psyduck was a water type from the jump?

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KogaSteelfang
03/24/25 12:51:06 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
How could the games mislead anyone when Psyduck was a water type from the jump?
By the Pokedex constantly telling you it's psychic. Say you catch one, and it goes to the PC, but the Pokedex pops up and says "Psyduck's psychic powers are out of control and gives it a headache." Why would someone assume it's pure water, when PSYduck, used psychic in battle, and the Pokedex tells you it's psychic?

It'd be like a Pokemon named Torchwood, which is a flaming tree, born out of a forest fire, that attacks by throwing flaming logs, and the Pokedex describes as spreading fire where it travels. Wouldn't it be surprising to learn it's pure grass type?

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tripleh213
03/24/25 12:56:04 AM
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Alakazam can solo everything

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Mortainous28
03/24/25 1:44:41 AM
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Piplup_Sniper posted...
The writers of the original anime did. Takeshi Shudo, the late headwriter of the original anime, mentioned they had them play the games in his blog.

Can we define "play"? xD Not looking for a 'gachtya'. I just don't see how anyone could play those games and write the anime the way they did. Did they pick it up for a bit to get a quick feel? Or did they dive deep? One could get different ideas depending on the level.

Though I poke at it, I still love the anime series. Even if it hurts me to watch anime Gyarados's 'Dragon Rage'.

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Arcanine2009
03/24/25 5:25:57 AM
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Geoglow93 posted...
Charizard is not a dragon.
At least he has Mega X.

Would be nice if we got mega evolutions of Golduck (psychic/water) and Dragonite. Or maybe an alternate form of psyduck and Golduck that are actually part psychic

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Azn_Psycho
03/24/25 6:27:46 AM
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Spartan_Jedi117 posted...
Iirc, ghost and psychic were so broken

Only psychic was.

Well ghost was broken in the sense that it didn't work. All ghosts were part poison which made them weak to psychics. Ghost type attacks weren't super effective against psychic. And the few ghost type attacks were either a 20 base power or one that did damage equal to your Pokemon's level

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Turbam
03/24/25 7:20:20 AM
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To this day, I still need to actively remind myself that ghost isn't weak to psychic

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ViewtifulGrave
03/24/25 7:22:23 AM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
By the Pokedex constantly telling you it's psychic. Say you catch one, and it goes to the PC, but the Pokedex pops up and says "Psyduck's psychic powers are out of control and gives it a headache." Why would someone assume it's pure water, when PSYduck, used psychic in battle, and the Pokedex tells you it's psychic?

It'd be like a Pokemon named Torchwood, which is a flaming tree, born out of a forest fire, that attacks by throwing flaming logs, and the Pokedex describes as spreading fire where it travels. Wouldn't it be surprising to learn it's pure grass type?
The Pokdex constantly says that Arcanine is legendary we all know that aint true.

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El_Marsh
03/24/25 7:29:53 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
The Pokdex constantly says that Arcanine is legendary we all know that aint true.
Bullshit!

It is Legendary Goodest Boy!

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