Poll of the Day > Reminder: Watch Snow White in the theater

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It's culturally important that this movie doesn't bomb, and this is one of the easy stands you can make.

No.

What's in it for me

Or conversely, don't watch Snow White at all unless you're a masochist.

I don't trust the word of a self-admitted felon.

i'd rather stay playing assassins creed shadows, seems like the better use of my money than a movie i didn't even know was a thing

ConfusedTorchic posted...

i'd rather stay playing assassins creed shadows, seems like the better use of my money than a movie i didn't even know was a thing

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Pororin posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1f6d43b3.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgPDxRkci_A

AdmittedFelon posted...

It's culturally important that this movie doesn't bomb, and this is one of the easy stands you can make.

What?

I havent watched any of the other soulless Disney remakes, Im not going to start now

Nah Im good

I'm not gonna watch that.

I'm also not gonna rate it or whine about it.

why would i want tripe to succeed?

Nah fam, I'm good. Bet.

Real talk tho

Done already seen that flick back in the day.

Nah; I recommend supporting good movies, like The Day the Earth Blew Up.

I haven't really liked any of the Disney live action movies and have only watched Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast in the theater. Those didn't hit me great so I didn't even see Little Mermaid in theaters even though that's my favorite Disney movie.

Are you joking? I hate Disney.

The Aladdin remake is the only live-action one I've seen to date, and it really just cemented that if I want to watch any of these movies, I'll just watch the originals. Even then, the original Snow White is pretty meh and I couldn't tell you the last time I actually felt like watching it. I'm sure the usual suspects will be chanting "go woke go broke" with every stroke of their well-lubed fists because they'll see it as one of the "wins" they so desperately fantasize about, but underwhelming performance from a Disney live-action remake is really par for the course at this point and attaching any sort of cultural significance to it is just silly (even more so when it's not a super-popular movie to begin with).

if they want to make new versions of their old catalogue that put them on the map, they should just remake them but in the same style they already are, a cartoon animation.

hell, it'd likely make them more money that way since all of these live action remakes seem to all be bigass flops because it's nothing anyone is interested in

Why

As far as I understand, these live-action remakes are less about putting the old movies back on the map and more about protecting the trademarks. That doesn't necessarily apply to stuff like Moana that's getting remade only a few years later, and if The Lion King was in danger of that I would think the ship would already have sailed for Snow White because it's 60 years older, but whatever the nuance of it that's the general rationale for squirting out remakes.

Blue_Thunder posted...

Nah; I recommend supporting good movies, like The Day the Earth Blew Up.

I've heard that was good, but also utterly doomed because Warner Bros did like zero marketing for it (I literally only learned it exists yesterday, and like third-hand).

Apparently that's fueling rumors that WB is actually considering selling off the Looney Tunes IP (along with other stuff, like pulling the old cartoons from Max).



adjl posted...

As far as I understand, these live-action remakes are less about putting the old movies back on the map and more about protecting the trademarks.

I've heard the same, but there are easier ways to do that then throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars every movie.

The other motivation is trying to create new draws for streaming, because there's a constant need to produce new content to keep subscriptions up. But that also seems to be a bust, since apparently most people who do subscribe are mostly only subscribing for the older stuff anyway, and subs aren't anywhere near robust enough to actually keep paying for overly expensive content. That's not just a Disney problem, though - it seems like most of the streaming services have been vastly overpaying for shows and movies in the hopes of expanding their subscriber-base, which doesn't seem like it's really worked for anyone other than Netflix. So there's talk that we might see fewer of these large-scale projects being greenlit by companies like Disney or Amazon in the future, because they're just never seeing a return on their investment.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I've heard that was good, but also utterly doomed because Warner Bros did like zero marketing for it (I literally only learned it exists yesterday, and like third-hand).

Yep; mentioning it by name is my tiny contribution to raising awareness of the movie.

Well, I can't go watch (Snow white) now because I was one of the few that wanted actual short folks to play as the dwarves. I know why it ultimately couldn't be done, but it would have been interesting to see.

I haven't even watched the original Snow White yet, and I'd definitely start there if I were to delve into the franchise.

So, hard pass for now.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

That's not just a Disney problem, though - it seems like most of the streaming services have been vastly overpaying for shows and movies in the hopes of expanding their subscriber-base, which doesn't seem like it's really worked for anyone other than Netflix.

Mostly, all of the new services operated at a loss for several years in hopes of carving out a piece of Netflix's pie, and now that they've got that piece, they've had to jack up prices and start working ads in there to get a return on that investment. The problem is that people don't want to pay more than they were paying to get a whole pie from Netflix to get a piece of that same pie from another service, so everybody's having trouble attracting a profitable number of subscribers.

adjl posted...

As far as I understand, these live-action remakes are less about putting the old movies back on the map and more about protecting the trademarks. That doesn't necessarily apply to stuff like Moana that's getting remade only a few years later, and if The Lion King was in danger of that I would think the ship would already have sailed for Snow White because it's 60 years older, but whatever the nuance of it that's the general rationale for squirting out remakes.

that's true, possibly, no real reason to doubt it

but that doesn't mean they need to be a live action cgi slopfest that loses them millions of dollars because they ballooned their budget ten fold for no particular reason

like, i'm sure hiring studio ghibli would cost like, half of whatever live action remake they do, and the result would be a nominally better product most likely.

adjl posted...

Mostly, all of the new services operated at a loss for several years in hopes of carving out a piece of Netflix's pie, and now that they've got that piece, they've had to jack up prices and start working ads in there to get a return on that investment. The problem is that people don't want to pay more than they were paying to get a whole pie from Netflix to get a piece of that same pie from another service, so everybody's having trouble attracting a profitable number of subscribers.

The thing is, almost no one other than Netflix (and YouTube, if you want to count it) has ever managed to get more than a few crumbs from that pie. Too many services springing up around the same time meant that none of them ever managed to grab much more than a minuscule share of the potential audience. When you see bar graphs of subscribers to various services, they all look terrible. And nearly all of them are non-sustainable at their current levels.

The Covid era gaslit a lot of these companies into thinking streaming was the future, because with everyone stuck home alone they were watching a lot more TV, and so were a lot more willing to put money into multiple subscriptions. But afterwards people have throttled back on that, and now the companies who thought they had a model that would consistently grow and generate income are finding they're barely able to claw out enough to survive. And a lot of expensive projects that got greenlit when everyone thought the gravy train was never going to end are getting crapped out and dying, which has execs panicking.

The joke for a while has been that streaming was basically created as a means of escaping cable, and now most streaming services are slowly reinventing the cable model, so we're right back where we started anyway. But arguably streaming may be worse than cable, because cable at least turned a profit for decades, and supported the generation of new content fairly effectively. Whereas streaming just seems to be an engine for burning money, and has led to a much worse framework for creating content anyone actually wants to see.

If streaming services stop paying top dollar for movies and shows, and with the movie theater experience slowly dying, it might be detrimental to new content generation. Especially if it seems like most viewers are just watching old content or wasting all of their time online watching cat videos, TikToks, and doomscrolling social media. Why bother making movies at all? You'd be better off funding cheap reality shows or influencers to crap out dreck.

Nope. I rather Disney not waste their resources on soulless live-action remakes of their all-time classics. They're essentially trying to fix what isn't broken.

Pass. I don't really think the original is all that good compared to later disney movies, and I have yet to see any of the LA remakes.

The live action versions of much better movies were bad enough, I'm not going to watch a Snow White remake that features Gal Gadot.

GanonsSpirit posted...

The live action versions of much better movies were bad enough, I'm not going to watch a Snow White remake that features Gal Gadot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXGI5D3v3dI

Gal Gadot looks better than the main character, which is hilarious giving the context of the story.

don't think this topic went the way tc wanted it to.

Nade_Duck posted...

don't think this topic went the way tc wanted it to.

Let's be honest, I think it went exactly the way they intended it to.

i'd probably agree if our board wasn't swimming with CEmen lately.

Nade_Duck posted...

don't think this topic went the way tc wanted it to.

I can clearly tell this is not true. Nobody would really try to rally this movie as "culturally important".

This was specifically to get the responses that it got... Mission completely successful for OP.

Cr1tikal reviewed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCFeiq9pHZA

It's coming in slightly below expectations

Not good enough people! Stay home

is not watching it at all an option?

JixHedgehog posted...

It's coming in slightly below expectations

Not good enough people! Stay home

I'm pretty sure everybody that cares about the movie failing (which is just a miserable, depressing existence to begin with, because what kind of a loser actively wants a piece of optional entertainment media to fail?) is already staying home.

I've got zero idea what the controversy is, and, honestly, don't really care.
I'll not watch Disney stuff though.

shadowsword87 posted...

I've got zero idea what the controversy is, and, honestly, don't really care.
I'll not watch Disney stuff though.

From what I've seen (whatever comes across my feed, haven't actually dug into any of it), I think they removed the actual dwarves since it was offensive to people with that condition or something like that?

adjl posted...

because what kind of a loser actively wants a piece of optional entertainment media to fail?)

I want these awful remakes to fail so Disney stops making them

Damn_Underscore posted...

I want these awful remakes to fail so Disney stops making them

Are you not capable of simply not watching something you have no interest in? Why, then, does it matter that they make them?

adjl posted...

Are you not capable of simply not watching something you have no interest in? Why, then, does it matter that they make them?

Theyre wastes of resources, driven to appeal to people who think animation is inferior to live-action.

KalloFox34 posted...

Theyre wastes of resources, driven to appeal to people who think animation is inferior to live-action.

Yeah man, hearing "waste of resources" has been lowering on my logic for reasons to hate on something. Unless you work for Disney, I think you will be, personally, fine.

KalloFox34 posted...

Theyre wastes of resources, driven to appeal to people who think animation is inferior to live-action.

Has Disney stopped making animated films for the sake of making the live-action remakes?

I'm a fan of classic Disney (up to this century more or less) and these remakes tarnish Disney's brand image more and more each time, it's sad to see. It is in fact sad to see Disney put hundreds of millions of dollars into these remakes when the originals cost so much less to make (in today's dollars) and look so much better.

Again, are you not capable of simply not watching the remakes? Are the originals not readily available to watch whenever you're in the mood?