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SocialistGamer 06/07/25 12:22:29 PM #1: |
May be the best of the sequel trilogy tbh. --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spriga 06/07/25 12:24:00 PM #2: |
King of crap mountain, congrats. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenBananas 06/07/25 12:30:20 PM #3: |
Its a very good stand alone film, I just wish JJ had asked Rian Johnson to follow some guidelines to make the trilogy more well rounded. The only weak movie in the trilogy is Rise of Skywalker, mainly because JJ had to go back and fix some problems Last Jedi created. But thats not Last Jedis fault. Thats JJs fault for not having a plan in the first place --- Big yellow joint big yellow joint I'll meet you down at the big yellow joint ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 06/07/25 12:30:26 PM #4: |
It's 2025. The Last Jedi hate is way overblown Correct. Thats how I feel about the hate towards the whole trilogy. Every complaint I see about just comes off as some smelly nerd nitpicking something they didnt want to like. --- Life's what you make it, so let's make it rock ... Copied to Clipboard!
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obsolete 06/07/25 12:34:16 PM #6: |
No it's not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 06/07/25 12:34:40 PM #7: |
The thing about the ST is, in the OT and PT, I can think of each movie distinctively. I could probably point out which film from a grainy still image is from, but the ST I cannot separate the movies individually. I don't remember which was which, or even the names of all 3. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 06/07/25 12:36:07 PM #8: |
There are legitimate reasons to dislike it. It's just some people make it their life's mission to complain about it constantly. It's also ok to like it. It's just some people act like they're superior for liking it and think disliking it means you're stupid or a conservative. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReiRei89 06/07/25 12:37:14 PM #10: |
argonautweakend posted... The thing about the ST is, in the OT and PT, I can think of each movie distinctively. I could probably point out which film from a grainy still image is from, but the ST I cannot separate the movies individually. I don't remember which was which, or even the names of all 3.That's probably more that you grew up with the OT and PT and thus seen them a lot more. I've seen the ST far less than the OT and PT but each movie is still pretty distinct regarding what's going on. --- FGO US:973,940,202 JP:410,404,215 Resident Europa fangirl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 06/07/25 12:38:22 PM #11: |
FrozenBananas posted... I just wish JJ had asked Rian Johnson to follow some guidelines to make the trilogy more well rounded. rian asked JJ what his plans where for the stuff he set up and JJ had no planes as JJ never makes planes he just makes myster boxes to be resolved later --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 06/07/25 12:38:26 PM #12: |
The movie's pacing is completely fucked, the entire middle portion felt like a preachy waste of time. Also Canto Bight was unadulterated The Man is Sticking it to the Man on Disney's part. "Oh, look how bad capitalism and the rich elites are!" --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SAlYAN 06/07/25 12:39:53 PM #13: |
I enjoyed TFA and hated TLJ and RoS. And yeah, I can be vocal about why. I don't go out of my way to complain about then apropos of nothing, but if I see a discussion about them, I'll make my opinions known. I will say this: I have never insulted or attacked anyone for liking the ST. I have, however, been frequently personally attacked for disliking them. --- Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mechu 06/07/25 12:42:12 PM #14: |
SocialistGamer posted... May be the best of the sequel trilogy tbh.Not exactly a high bar. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 06/07/25 12:43:35 PM #15: |
I think The Last Jedi is one of the better Star Wars movies, it's not perfect and could stand to be about half an hour shorter but at least it tries to do something new. The Rise of Skywalker however? I don't know how anyone can attack TLJ but give this film a pass? It's absolutely garbage with no redeeming qualities. It's much worse than Attack of the Clones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheDurinator 06/07/25 12:44:16 PM #16: |
In a vacuum TLJ is easily the best of the sequels, it's the only one that feels like a real movie and not something ChatGPT spat out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 06/07/25 12:44:32 PM #17: |
The youth thing is true. I've seen the OT a bunch, and the PT a lot less but enough. But nothing in the ST has ever made me want to watch them again, which is part of the problem. If I had the drive or care to watch them more than once I would remember a lot more. But there was nothing there. But I am not being a hater at the same time. Some people love these movies and that's great. I liked a couple of the spinoffs like Rogue 1, so it's not a total loss. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 06/07/25 12:47:31 PM #18: |
I'm firmly of the opinion that if RoS was anything close to like, real effort, and not a super awkward attempt at damage control towards an audience that would never accept it. TFA took a similar story and set it up to go in a new direction, and then TLJ took it in a new direction and set stuff up for a finale to the trilogy. But the final movie suddenly had a whole breakdown and basically made a completely unrelated third movie with the only actual relation to the previous movie being actively ruining everything it set up as if it was bullying your friend to try and fit in with the cool kids. If ROS had just gone with what had been set up and actually tried making a decent movie with what had been set up, nobody would still be whining about The Last Jedi. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 06/07/25 12:47:45 PM #19: |
TFA sucked. TLJ sucked. TRoS sucked. --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Wheelman1 06/07/25 12:48:21 PM #20: |
Nope it sucked then and it still sucks now --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GhostFaceLeaks 06/07/25 12:50:16 PM #21: |
What I hate about The Last Jedi and the sequel trilogy is not the quality but you can not look for anything Star Wars related these days on Youtube without being bombarded by analysis videos that are 1-6 hours long of people complaining about the Sequel Trilogy being recommended to you en mass. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwayM 06/07/25 12:51:51 PM #22: |
FrozenBananas posted... Its a very good stand alone film, I just wish JJ had asked Rian Johnson to follow some guidelines to make the trilogy more well rounded. The only weak movie in the trilogy is Rise of Skywalker, mainly because JJ had to go back and fix some problems Last Jedi created. But thats not Last Jedis fault. Thats JJs fault for not having a plan in the first place ROS didnt need to fix anything from TLJ. It needed to follow the plot. Trying to retcon plot beats from the last movie because of pure sour grapes was a horrible look and thats the main reason why its such a shit movie. --- Sig space for rent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 06/07/25 12:51:52 PM #23: |
spriga posted... King of crap mountain, congrats. --- This is not our order. I am not your momma. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonPhoenix 06/07/25 12:52:47 PM #24: |
It's not overblown enough --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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reincarnator07 06/07/25 12:55:35 PM #25: |
The best of a bad group is still bad, even if TFA didn't actually hold that crown. TLJ is the one that annoys me the most though because I think it by far had the most potential. It's the only one of the three that felt like it tried to do anything original. Many of the worst parts either came out of nowhere and should have been set up previously, or weren't followed up on later and ended up being filler. I'm annoyed for the movie (and trilogy) that we could have had vs what we actually got. That said, what we got was an incredibly flawed movie. It wasn't the worst Star Wars movie. It wasn't even the worst of the sequels. None of the hatred and vitriol towards those involved in the movie was even remotely justified. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hinakuluiau 06/07/25 12:57:03 PM #26: |
It's a cycle that we've seen before and will see again. ROTJ was hated on release by nerds who complained about Jabba's Palace taking forever and that Ewoks were too kiddy. Fast forward 15 years and people put it on the same level as the other two. The prequels were hated on release by nerds complaining about the Space Politics, the acting, how the Jedi didn't hold up to what they had built up in their heads, the entirety of the Clone Wars, the blue/green screens, Jar Jar, etc. Fast forward 10 years and it's beloved by many people. The same thing will happen with the sequels. People who like TLJ have been arguing in support of it for years just like the people who defended ROTS on these very boards back in the 2000s. We're seeing people defend TFA. We're even seeing people point to the current admin as why the Palpatine asspull isn't really that bad for TRoS and defending it. Kids who grew up with the prequels are now adults who prefer it to the originals. The same thing is going to happen to the sequels. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 06/07/25 12:57:08 PM #27: |
It's arguably better than TRoS but I still enjoy TROS more in a "so bad it's good" kind of way. TLJ isn't even funny. It's just boring and stupid. --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 06/07/25 12:59:42 PM #28: |
Proto_Spark posted... I'm firmly of the opinion that if RoS was anything close to like, real effort, and not a super awkward attempt at damage control towards an audience that would never accept it. as ive often said TFA was the film that followed the tropes we expect it does things safe TLJ is the film that then breaks the mold challenges everything we know about star wars episode 9 should have been the film laying down the NEW tropes that the franchise and media in general fallow for the next several decades --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 06/07/25 1:02:23 PM #29: |
What gets me is the people saying the prequel trilogy is now good just because they don't like the sequel trilogy As if the movies are in direct competition with each other somehow ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenBananas 06/07/25 1:06:15 PM #30: |
TMOG posted... What gets me is the people saying the prequel trilogy is now good just because they don't like the sequel trilogy the only people who like the prequel trilogy are the 20 year olds who were kids during 1999-2005 and grew up on them. As someone who was 10- 15 when those movies came out, they were not good, even back then. Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were not good --- Big yellow joint big yellow joint I'll meet you down at the big yellow joint ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hmnut7 06/07/25 1:06:24 PM #31: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Came to say this! TFA was a good movie, that is a hill I'm willing to die on. But it kind of gets in its own way with how much nostalgia porn they shoved into it. But it is a legitimate good movie, and I left the theater with the expectation this would be a good trilogy... and then like the super smart writers they are they subverted my expectation and turned it into shit. --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 06/07/25 1:07:25 PM #32: |
I enjoyed all three of the sequels. The thing I didnt like about all of them was I will always like the OT best because I grew up with it. But Ive enjoyed just about every property related to the franchise, except maybe Book of Boba Fett because it was just kind of boring. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SonicZack 06/07/25 1:10:25 PM #33: |
It really is. I have enjoyed all of the content put out through movies and TV. The hate is completely unneeded. Did people get this bad back when Batman and Robin was released? --- [This Signature Intentionally Left Blank] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolverine 06/07/25 1:17:32 PM #34: |
I loved TLJ when I first saw it, but after a recent rewatch, I realized how badly it undermines the entire Star Wars saga. It tears down the legacy of the characters, the lore, and everything Star Wars built. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 06/07/25 1:17:59 PM #35: |
The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie released in the last 40 years, other than Rogue One. It's definitely not a flawless movie and it's not at the level of the originals, but I appreciated the way that it was unafraid to approach the Star Wars story differently, and it had some legitimately incredible moments. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Derwood 06/07/25 1:19:11 PM #36: |
Hiring JJ Abrams was the mistake --- My alt is my new main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dancing_cactuar 06/07/25 1:23:45 PM #37: |
Just what we needed, another "guys the Last Jedi wasn't so bad" topic. Nah, it was shit in 2015 and it's still shit now, only managing to be better than two of the three prequels. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX All games, movies, albums, and books are fads- Darkfire12 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaiCSC 06/07/25 1:25:10 PM #38: |
I'm by no means the biggest star wars fan so take my opinions with a pinch of salt. I don't hate them as much as everyone else. But make no mistake, The prequels are worse movies in the series (though I still really Obi-Wan in them). Original Trilogy is a classic. The sequel trilogy, is disappointing more than bad to me. The Force Awakens, I thought was a great movie. Every time I watched it I was excited and felt like Star Wars was back. The Last Jedi... The ideas on paper, the elevator pitch, is really good. Our heroes are backed into a corner and to give themselves a way out Finn goes on a mission only to see the extent of the harm by and ambivalence to the First order. Meanwhile, Rey has found Luke Skywalker who has fallen and become lost to despair when the Galaxy needs him the most. But the execution is just bad. I hated what was done with Like Skywalker. Hated it. I have NO objections to bringing him to his lowest moment, having him be lost and jaded... Provided that he rises up and stands tall again. But that doesn't happen. The reasons for his self exile feel like they came from a place he wouldn't have gone to. And then he dies in this one and it feels so unceremonious. Luke Skywalker, didn't need to be the hero or the main character, but he should never feel an afterthought. Then we have the rest which is heavy handed and paced horribly. And then there's the subversion of expectations, it comes off as done for the sake of it with no follow in mind. It may be a better movie than the prequels and Rise of Skywalker. But it is one I dislike the most, it wasted its potential and seemingly tore down Luke Skywalker for the sake of tearing him down. --- I Shot the Sheriff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 06/07/25 1:25:13 PM #39: |
guys we just had a 500 of this it's going to be exactly the same and this is the only kind of thing tc does whats wrong with u guys --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 06/07/25 1:25:36 PM #40: |
TLJ topics are becoming a weekly thing here And tbh I kinda don't hate it lol --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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havean776 06/07/25 1:28:59 PM #41: |
It's okay if you like it. Don't ask me to like it. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SAlYAN 06/07/25 1:34:47 PM #42: |
JaiCSC posted... But the execution is just bad. I hated what was done with Like Skywalker. Hated it. I have NO objections to bringing him to his lowest moment, having him be lost and jaded... Provided that he rises up and stands tall again. But that doesn't happen. The reasons for his self exile feel like they came from a place he wouldn't have gone to. And then he dies in this one and it feels so unceremonious. Luke Skywalker, didn't need to be the hero or the main character, but he should never feel an afterthought.Less than an afterthought. The sequels fundamentally reduce Luke to a secondary character in the entire franchise. By the time he dies, he's literally nothing but a stepping stone in other people's stories. Whether it's Anakin's or Rey's. And that sucks. --- Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 06/07/25 1:37:55 PM #43: |
I still maintain it has some of the coolest artistic shots of any film in the franchise, but the story deflates them due to it not being the second film in the trilogy. There's so much finality in it that it feels rushed or half-baked. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 06/07/25 1:39:26 PM #44: |
The only thing stronger than the Force is the fandom's efforts to hate whatever is newest. It had some problems, but it has nothing on 2 or 9. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 06/07/25 1:40:48 PM #45: |
SAlYAN posted... Less than an afterthought. The sequels fundamentally reduce Luke to a secondary character in the entire franchise Star wars has no main character. If it took you 30 years to understand this you missed the entire point if what Lucas was doing. Hes the main of the OT. Hes a supporting character in the ST. Like his master before him. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 06/07/25 1:41:44 PM #46: |
SwayM posted... ROS didnt need to fix anything from TLJ. It needed to follow the plot. THIS. RIGHT HERE. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 06/07/25 1:42:00 PM #47: |
SAlYAN posted... Less than an afterthought. The sequels fundamentally reduce Luke to a secondary character in the entire franchise. By the timeSo yet again Because they didn't do with him what they did in the EU. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 06/07/25 1:43:32 PM #48: |
ReturnOfDevsman posted... So yet again People wanted Luke to be glazed like an action figure. The charactwr who doesn't even beat the main villain in his trilogy, and they want him to follow tired old protagonist tropes The criticisms against this movie are going to age sooooo badly once people who are removed from their childish nostalgia get their hands on it. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 06/07/25 1:45:27 PM #49: |
Toonstrack posted... Star wars has no main character. If it took you 30 years to understand this you missed the entire point if what Lucas was doing.Nah. That goes out the window when you introduce an actual prophecy that makes the skywalkers super special --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SAlYAN 06/07/25 1:46:56 PM #50: |
ReturnOfDevsman posted... So yet againYet again with this reductionist bullshit. He doesn't need to be all-powerful force-jesus, and nobody's asking for that. Believe it or not, Superman manages to be a very-well-loved and, yes, HUMAN character without needing to rip him off his pedestal, stick your finger in his face, and Injustice him. --- Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 06/07/25 1:47:21 PM #51: |
Toonstrack posted... People wanted Luke to be glazed like an action figure.Or maybe they wanted him to constantly drop major nuggets of wisdom, like these from the OT (contains spoilers): https://youtu.be/VhvFMO1aoNk?si=CARyFrMknD3P_ZTP https://youtu.be/OuLDHWuKd7w?si=97fQGHQXHlbypVr0 https://youtu.be/G48jYS8Yq1w?si=YmphIYADr-USL7AM --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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