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foolm0r0n
08/11/25 9:19:37 PM
#452:


good writeup
https://rvamag.com/opinion-editorial/authoritarianism-ninety-minutes-away.html

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Bat178
08/11/25 10:56:47 PM
#454:


According to WaPo, the federal troops aren't really doing anything in DC, just acting as support for the local police: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/08/11/trump-dc-fbi-national-guard-deployment/

This is just coming off as yet another intimidation stunt that will fail like it did in LA.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/25 12:08:56 AM
#455:


https://www.resetera.com/threads/1267590/

Raise the price of the Costco Hotdog and Republicans won't win another election for 30 years.

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FFDragon
08/12/25 7:47:31 AM
#456:


canary in the ice tea

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/25 1:59:03 PM
#457:


https://bsky.app/profile/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/post/3lw7ujefztc2t

I was briefly thinking that Mamdani should consider mentioning his Republican opponent in his attack ads at least once, but considering Sliwa has been around for decades, ran last time, and I'd still bet a large chunk of New Yorkers don't even know he's running again, maybe not even acknowledging he exists is the way to go.


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paperwarior
08/12/25 2:06:07 PM
#458:


FFDragon posted...
canary in the ice tea
Would be significantly less damaging to Arizona Iced Tea than any price increase

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/25 2:35:36 PM
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https://youtu.be/fMUZ2sVjLfY?si=LkI84UkKNvRyxwDf

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Grimlyn
08/12/25 3:44:39 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://bsky.app/profile/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/post/3lw7ujefztc2t

I was briefly thinking that Mamdani should consider mentioning his Republican opponent in his attack ads at least once, but considering Sliwa has been around for decades, ran last time, and I'd still bet a large chunk of New Yorkers don't even know he's running again, maybe not even acknowledging he exists is the way to go.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e7bc1d22.jpg

fucking lmaooooo

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red_sox_777
08/12/25 8:06:08 PM
#461:


So I sometimes check Trump's Truth Social profile as a way of getting original source news. A while back, they started requiring you to make an account to view profiles, including Trump's. I wasn't going to make an account for that, and it seems others felt the same way because it is now accessible without an account again - but with a lot of ads for things like pillows from MyPillow and Ivermectin.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/13/25 10:28:24 AM
#462:


You couldn't write that shit

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Thorn
08/14/25 8:35:35 AM
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So, I know the Telegraph is considered a right-wing rag but this story has been picked up by Fox, Newsweek, and some others and it does make a certain sort of sense that right wing outlets would have deeper access to this sorta stuff.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/08/13/trump-to-present-minerals-deal-to-putin-in-alaska

In Trump's meeting with Putin tomorrow about Ukraine he's reportedly willing to offer Putin: rare earth minerals from Ukraine, mineral rights in Alaska, and using the West Bank as a model for how to handle the governance of the Russian-occupied Ukraine.

I wasn't totally aware that you could surrender in a war where you were not invaded, but apparently you can! Art of the Deal!

The Telegraph reports...
As well as lifting sanctions, The Telegraph can now reveal that the US is preparing to offer Putin other financial incentives to end the war, including access to rare earth minerals in the areas of Ukraine currently occupied by Russia

Mr. Trump is also considering offering Russia opportunities to tap into the valuable natural resources in the strait that separates it from the US. Alaska, separated from Russia by just three miles of the Bering Strait, is estimated to hold significant undiscovered oil and gas reserves, including 13 per cent of the world's oil.

Developing Russia's presence in the strait would bolster Putin's strategic interests in the Arctic region, which accounted for 80 per cent of Russia's gas production in 2022.

Israel's occupation of the West Bank could be used as a model for ending the war. Russia would have military and economic control of occupied Ukraine under its own governing body, similar to Israel's de facto rule of Palestinian territory.

The idea was raised in discussions between Steve Witkoff, Mr. Trump's special envoy and his Russian counterparts, according to The Times.

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FFDragon
08/14/25 8:56:30 AM
#464:


why the fuck should be using Israel as a beacon for anything holy fucking shit

Ukraine will not and should not agree to this and hopefully will have enough support from real countries to push Russia out of all the occupied territory

Otherwise we're going to have two active genocides over there

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Thorn
08/14/25 8:59:59 AM
#465:


Oh, this would absolutely be dead on arrival for Ukraine (who is not represented at Trump's meeting with Putin, nor is Europe) but the danger would be if Putin accepts (and I think the smart thing would be to do so if these are the terms - when the fuck else are you getting an in to Alaska? Just take a few years to rebuild and restock before invading again like with Crimea) you absolutely know that Trump will immediately turn on Ukraine and do everything in his power to browbeat them into taking it - cutting off all support/aid, etc.

It'd be up to Europe to keep Ukraine supplied.

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Bat178
08/14/25 9:03:52 AM
#466:


Thorn posted...
Oh, this would absolutely be dead on arrival for Ukraine (who is not represented at Trump's meeting with Putin, nor is Europe) but the danger would be if Putin accepts (and I think the smart thing would be to do so if these are the terms - when the fuck else are you getting an in to Alaska? Just take a few years to rebuild and restock before invading again like with Crimea) you absolutely know that Trump will immediately turn on Ukraine and do everything in his power to browbeat them into taking it - cutting off all support/aid, etc.

It'd be up to Europe to keep Ukraine supplied.
According to this, the US is claiming they will not make an agreement without Ukrainian involvement: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-13-2025

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FFDragon
08/14/25 9:11:59 AM
#467:


it's trump though so "involvement" could just mean him telling Zelenskyy "you take this or you're cut off"

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Maniac64
08/14/25 11:51:08 AM
#468:


Thorn posted...
and using the West Bank as a model for how to handle the governance of the Russian-occupied Ukraine.
Oh of course, because that governance went so well and didnt lead to more conflict

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foolm0r0n
08/14/25 1:34:34 PM
#469:


It was undeniably great for the government of Israel, so it makes a lot of sense to propose to the government of Russia

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LordoftheMorons
08/14/25 2:06:50 PM
#470:


So it turns out that not only is Trumps BLS nominee completely unqualified, he was ALSO a J6er:

https://twitter.com/fritschner/status/1955788956643233841?s=46

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FFDragon
08/14/25 2:10:02 PM
#471:


shouldn't be surprising

j6 is a badge of honor for them

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red_sox_777
08/14/25 6:23:37 PM
#472:


Russia has been making significant advances on the battlefield this week. If no other country is willing to put boots on the ground to help, it's hard for Ukraine to refuse any deal Trump makes, because it's difficult for them to win the war without American support.

As for Trump, he is highly skilled at deciding to change course when he believes the current course will not lead anywhere good. This is not a common skill, especially among politicians, who are usually driven by inertia. The current course of events is incredibly destructive for both Ukraine and Russia, and therefore both countries should be very interested in peace.

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FFDragon
08/14/25 7:16:09 PM
#473:


It's not peace when an invading army steals your land though

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v-charon
08/14/25 8:19:52 PM
#474:


FFDragon posted...
shouldn't be surprising

j6 is a badge of honor for them


Very Special People.

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PerfectChaosZ
08/15/25 3:48:16 PM
#475:


Putin is in the US.
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Chaeix
08/15/25 3:58:50 PM
#476:


red_sox_777 posted...
therefore both countries should be very interested in peace.
no shade but i actively dislike this kind of commentary.

if russia wanted peace then they just wouldn't have started and continued the war

russia wants concessions.

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swordz9
08/15/25 3:59:12 PM
#477:


If only we had a President who wasnt a pedophile coward and would actually arrest him since he has a warrant out. Im sure hes just meeting Trump to deliver his monthly dog training
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Kenri
08/15/25 4:10:20 PM
#478:


As much as Trump IS a pedophile coward I'm not sure any other president would do much better in terms of arresting a visiting head of state (they might not allow the visit, though)

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Thorn
08/15/25 4:31:59 PM
#479:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Putin is in the US.
We sure?

Because Trump said repeatedly at a press conference like two days ago that he (Trump) was "going to Russia on Friday" so it might turn out that actually he gave Putin Russia and we're about to find out today.

(in a quiet voice) "imagine the media if biden had said that. multiple times."

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paulg235
08/15/25 4:38:47 PM
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Thorn posted...
We sure?

Because Trump said repeatedly at a press conference like two days ago that he (Trump) was "going to Russia on Friday" so it might turn out that actually he gave Putin Russia and we're about to find out today.

(in a quiet voice) "imagine the media if biden had said that. multiple times."
They're in Alaska.

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red_sox_777
08/15/25 4:45:05 PM
#481:


Chaeix posted...
no shade but i actively dislike this kind of commentary.

if russia wanted peace then they just wouldn't have started and continued the war

russia wants concessions.

I am saying that they are probably not nearly as willing to continue fighting for years as they present themselves as being. They want us to believe they are willing to continue fighting forever, but are they really? The US has a lot of cards to play here; we'll see if that happens.

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catesdb
08/15/25 4:49:51 PM
#482:


it might turn out that actually he gave Putin Alaska and we're about to find out today


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TimeForAction
08/15/25 4:52:04 PM
#483:


catesdb posted...
it might turn out that actually he gave Putin Alaska and we're about to find out today

one can only hope the gop loses senate seats
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Thorn
08/15/25 4:55:28 PM
#484:


paulg235 posted...
They're in Alaska.
I know, that was my point. This meeting was always set for Alaska but Trump, on multiple occasions at his press conference two or three days ago said he was "going to Russia" for it.

i mean the reality is that he is totally senile but maybe we can't rule out that he gave alaska away and really is "going to Russia!"

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red_sox_777
08/15/25 4:55:41 PM
#485:


He can't give Russia Alaska without ratification by the Senate. It was acquired with a formal treaty ratified by the Senate, so it can only be undone with a formal treaty.

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swordz9
08/15/25 5:01:38 PM
#486:


red_sox_777 posted...
He can't give Russia Alaska without ratification by the Senate. It was acquired with a formal treaty ratified by the Senate, so it can only be undone with a formal treaty.
Not like rules ever stopped him
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Forceful_Dragon
08/15/25 5:06:54 PM
#487:


Which court will stop Trump from giving away states if he wants to?

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redrocket
08/15/25 5:15:16 PM
#488:


red_sox_777 posted...
He can't give Russia Alaska without ratification by the Senate. It was acquired with a formal treaty ratified by the Senate, so it can only be undone with a formal treaty.

I mean, how it became part of the US is irrelevant, really. What matters is that its a sovereign state within the Union.

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colliding
08/15/25 5:31:31 PM
#489:


Are people in here seriously thinking Trump gave away Alaska?

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Reg
08/15/25 5:33:41 PM
#490:


colliding posted...
Are people in here seriously thinking Trump gave away Alaska?
No but what else are you even supposed to say when the President of the United States (who passes the "If I were a Russian agent, what would I do?" test with flying colors, mind you) says he's "going to Russia" for a meeting in Alaska?
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Thorn
08/15/25 5:42:32 PM
#491:


colliding posted...
Are people in here seriously thinking Trump gave away Alaska?
no

i just didn't think i needed the /s tags on all those posts - i didn't exactly think i was being slick or anything, just pointing out the confluence of: Trump repeatedly saying that he's going to Russia when he's actually going to Alaska, the fact that he basically a known useful idiot for Russia at best, and how the media would have gone wall-to-wall coverage if Biden had made such a mistake at a press conference once, let alone multiple times in succession. just resigned dark humor.

It is the case that reporting indicates that Trump is willing to give Russia the rights to minerals and oil in Alaska as part of a deal to end the war in Ukraine though.

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FFDragon
08/15/25 5:51:06 PM
#492:


Art of the Deal baby

Give concessions to the invader and instigator of a war you aren't even involved in, that they won't honor, and is going to make the whole country look like idiots.

Just because he desperately wants a peace prize because Obama got one

What a joke of a human being

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Paratroopa1
08/15/25 5:54:32 PM
#493:


colliding posted...
Are people in here seriously thinking Trump gave away Alaska?
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swordz9
08/15/25 5:55:05 PM
#494:


Just wait for all the mental gymnastics MAGA will do to try and make it look like a great deal. But look he ended the fighting and Putin would never go back on a deal with Trump
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Chaeix
08/15/25 6:54:08 PM
#496:


Bat178 posted...
Blackburn and groups like NCOSE and Exodus Cry are trying to push KOSA now using the Meta AI situation that has already been resolved...
can you elaborate on this i'm curious about it but have no idea what blackburn, NCOSE, exodus cry, and KOSA are

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Thorn
08/15/25 7:14:29 PM
#497:


so trump's meeting with putin is over and sounds like it was just a big load of nothing

https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3lwhxugiqgk2f

"We didn't get there... but we have a very good chance of getting there." lmao

also "Next time in Moscow" (this was Putin's suggestion at least lol)

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wallmasterz
08/15/25 7:15:34 PM
#498:


I missed wheel of fortune for this

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08/15/25 7:19:40 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/712b3fb6.jpg

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