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Rika_Furude 07/22/25 3:11:48 AM #1: |
XCOM 2 was great, WTF happened over there for there to not be an XCOM 3? anyway basically the global strategy layer and then the battle layer, coordinating your defence/assault or whatever globally, raising individual troops, researching new equipment to combat the enemy, the rogue-lite elements to a certain degree where events/rewards/stages are randomised per playthrough what are good games like this? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 07/22/25 3:19:01 AM #2: |
genre too punishing for other devs and publishers to try maybe and also being too niche compared to soulslikes? --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JKwaffle 07/22/25 3:22:31 AM #3: |
Tag, cause I also want more games like this. --- - The user formerly known as WafflehouseJK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoesntMatter 07/22/25 3:23:32 AM #4: |
Into the Breach --- Reject the Oligarchy. Resist their plot: https://theplotagainstamerica.com/ Find your local organizers: https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ https://indivisible.org/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 07/22/25 3:25:20 AM #5: |
Phoenix Point. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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evilpresident 07/22/25 3:38:05 AM #6: |
I think Aliens Dark Descent might be something you'd like? Though its real time instead of turn based. Just throwing it out here. --- Corruption that you can believe in. (She/her) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blistr 07/22/25 3:58:35 AM #7: |
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden https://store.steampowered.com/app/760060/Mutant_Year_Zero_Road_to_Eden/ Xenonauts 2 Although it's in early access, it does get regular updates, the latest of which was only 2 weeks ago. At the moment it's at 35% discount too. https://store.steampowered.com/app/538030/Xenonauts_2/ --- You matter, unless you are travelling at the speed of light. Then you energy. https://steamcommunity.com/id/blistr/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sfcalimari 07/22/25 5:00:12 AM #8: |
Phantom Doctrine --- "Tether even a roasted chicken." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 07/22/25 5:42:05 AM #9: |
Gears Tactics Mordheim: City of the Damned Natural Doctrine --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dalthine 07/22/25 5:49:49 AM #10: |
Rika_Furude posted... WTF happened over there for there to not be an XCOM 3?They did make Chimera Squad, but I think that's a smaller, less free form game and I'm not sure how it stacks up. The Mario and Rabbids games have less of the world/campaign aspects but the battles are pretty much XCOM with some Mario elements. If you're demanding the campaign side of things, it feels like Darkest Dungeon scratches that itch. The battles don't have the same TRPG style but they're still tactically based and punishing. Lastly, I'd suggest The Last Spell. It's multiple shorter term rogue lite "campaigns" where you have the day phase with construction and development, and the night phase holding off a horde. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanWan 07/22/25 6:04:17 AM #11: |
TAG I. Fucking. Love. X-Com. --- NP: Lufia 2, FFIV "100 Years of Solitude", "Absalom, Absalom!" Posting Strike, No. of days without posting: 4 day(s) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neverwin 07/22/25 6:07:12 AM #12: |
Midnight Suns --- If you're so great then why do you corrupt those who are just as great? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McmadnessV3 07/22/25 6:21:47 AM #13: |
Warhammer 40k Mechanicus is a pretty good X-Com like. The difference being instead of protecting a planet you are exploring an ancient necron (skeleton egyption robots) tombs. The challenge being you have to complete the game before the tomb fully reawakens or else you're screwed. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kelemvor 07/22/25 6:34:28 AM #14: |
Xenonauts 2 is probably the purest X-Com clone out, although if it's like the 1st one it's going to be much closer to UFO Defense (the first X-Com game). I've actually been playing the original with the openXcom fan overhaul mod and it's very playable today, despite the 90s DOS jankiness. They toned down *some* of the unfair bullshit, but it's still possible to get your ass kicked when you step off the Skyranger at the start of a mission. The aliens start out with full TUs in Overwatch and could possibly be in eye site if the landing ramp. Better get used to sending out bait units first, like remote tanks or rookies out to be your spotters, preferably in conjunction with a smoke grenade ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raycon 07/22/25 6:36:27 AM #15: |
evilpresident posted... I think Aliens Dark Descent might be something you'd like? Though its real time instead of turn based. This was my first thought as well. --- I must have looked a fool playing with a backwards DS, teary eyed solving a Sudoku puzzle -Lordx718 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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texanfan27 07/22/25 7:43:32 AM #16: |
I have wh40k deamonslayers, phoenix point, and trouble shooter on my list to play. I just stuck on the RPG boat with pathfinder games so I havent given them the fair shot. phoenix point from understanding is the closest to xcom --- When you find my sanity, please ask it to put pants on and return home, in that order please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PeteyParker 07/22/25 8:06:40 AM #17: |
Marvel's Midnight Suns and Aliens: Dark Descent --- "How can.. the Prime minister.. support a law.. that makes it illegal for people.. who....What I'm trying to say is.. Oasis rules!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jcmason 07/22/25 8:30:53 AM #18: |
Lots of good recommendations in here. I'll throw in Cyber Knights: Flashpoint as another one that just came out quite recently, and is really good. --- https://join.worldcommunitygrid.org?recruiterId=545336 i9-12900KF|Z690-F|12GB 3080 RTX|64GB DDR5|2TB NVMe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 07/22/25 9:19:10 AM #19: |
I liked Massive Chalice a lot. In addition to the combat, there's a whole meta game about pairing up your warriors so their kids come out as hybrid classes and using your aging warriors to train up the new warriors so every generation gets stronger. You have something like 300 years to build up a fighting force that can defeat the big bad. --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CreekCo 07/22/25 9:26:33 AM #20: |
Midnight Sons killed Xoom 3 btw --- It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 07/22/25 4:29:47 PM #21: |
DipDipDiver posted... Massive ChaliceI used to play that game start to finish almost every day for a long period. It seemed different every time because families would crumble if a battle didn't go the right way or a bad habit/sickness became prevalent. You know you're fucked when you're trying to get a sickly 23 year old to bang a 70 year old with a drinking problem. --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 07/22/25 4:30:36 PM #22: |
Mario vs Rabbids --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 07/22/25 4:33:52 PM #23: |
How do you play Xcom without save scumming. Did I just suck? --- Trump is pursuing a chaotic far-right overthrow of existing US government norms and checks and balances, trying to destroy our way of life. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 07/22/25 4:53:31 PM #24: |
It's like XCOM in the way you have to spend your Time/Research. You have to find the right rhythm or you'll be overpowered and/or outnumbered quickly. Get 4 castles built, speed things up with the sages, refresh the place with warm bodies, maybe you don't let your best fighter go to jail for murder, never trust an Optimistic Alchemist, etc. --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 07/22/25 4:54:03 PM #25: |
Girls Frontline 2 --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 07/22/25 5:10:08 PM #26: |
The tactical/strategic RPG genre is just not that popular. The biggest franchise in the genre, Fire Emblem, has only recently started getting clones in the last few years. X-Com is more niche than Fire Emblem so there is even less incentive for other games to take up its style. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 07/22/25 6:04:30 PM #27: |
emblem-man posted... How do you play Xcom without save scumming. Did I just suck? When I switched to Ironman, the knowledge that I couldn't save scum away bad decisions made me consider my actions more carefully before executing them. I became a much better player as a result. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hospy 07/22/25 6:07:44 PM #28: |
sfcalimari posted... Phantom DoctrineIt's a great game, but a lot of people get into it thinking it's going to play like Xcom just because it looks similar and has the same UI and everything, but it's mostly a stealth game, not really a combat game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBBAN 07/22/25 6:18:21 PM #29: |
darkace77450 posted... When I switched to Ironman, the knowledge that I couldn't save scum away bad decisions made me consider my actions more carefully before executing them. I became a much better player as a result. I can't do Ironman cause i know a bug could end a run Like i had one time in Enemy Unknown when i was going through a Large UFO, put a few soldiers on Overwatch to end my turn, i just heard mech noises, and then an alien mech had just appeared in the middle of my squad --- Kremlin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FurryPhilosifer 07/22/25 6:56:04 PM #30: |
I could never get on with Massive Chalice. It felt like there was never enough time for my people to do anything. They might come out a battle with one perk or something, then by the time the next battle arrives they're too old to be of any use. I wish I could get into it though. I was really looking forward to it before release. --- Ghosts are cool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 07/22/25 7:00:10 PM #31: |
"Every Day We Fight" just released into Early Access on Steam. One of the people involved in the game is a huge XCOM guy, YouTuber Christopher Odd. I have no idea if it's good or not, just throwing that out there. --- 7800X3D - 7900 XTX - 32GB 6000 - 1440p Ultrawide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 07/22/25 7:05:18 PM #32: |
There's supposed to be an XCOMesque Star Wars game being made. --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 07/22/25 7:28:48 PM #33: |
sfcalimari posted... Phantom DoctrineCame here to post this --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 07/22/25 7:34:15 PM #34: |
I got trapped in Phantom Doctrine trying to grind out stuff instead of playing the game and I got burned out. I don't even remember what there was to grind in that game. Mutant Year Zero was pretty dope though, felt like an XCOM Clone. I think that studio put out another game that has a similar apocalyptic theme to it, too --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 07/22/25 7:35:48 PM #35: |
too many people got mad at 95% not being equal to 100% --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeeathLivesOn 07/22/25 7:42:21 PM #36: |
Hayame_Zero posted... Mario vs Rabbids --- 'Just sitting around the house tonight w my dog. Felt like I should be doing something important, but couldn't put my finger on it.' - Phil Kessel on USA snub ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 07/22/25 8:42:39 PM #37: |
I think a xcom style game set in a medieval world where you fight vampires and werewolves and stuff like that would be cool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hospy 07/22/25 8:47:40 PM #38: |
Zikten posted... I think a xcom style game set in a medieval world where you fight vampires and werewolves and stuff like that would be cool.King Arthur: Knight's Tale is kind of like that Only thing that is odd is the dev reimaged the tale so everybody is an undead zombie and, well.... it takes a little getting used to Gameplay wise it's Xcom in a medieval world though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 07/23/25 12:15:44 AM #39: |
McmadnessV3 posted... Warhammer 40k Mechanicus is a pretty good X-Com like. The difference being instead of protecting a planet you are exploring an ancient necron (skeleton egyption robots) tombs. The challenge being you have to complete the game before the tomb fully reawakens or else you're screwed.Great music too. There's also a mechanic where you can either activate or destroy data nodes during levels and lets you choose between XP and slowing down the awakening of the tomb planet. But it's really tempting to go for the XP because the more mechanical arms and things you get, the more actions you can take on your turn. In the later half of the game you'll be doing 6-12 things with each character on your team, each turn you take. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 07/23/25 12:56:20 AM #40: |
Trouble Shooter:Abandoned Children is alright if you like to grind a lot and don't mind an anime aesthetic. I really wanted to get into this more but holy crap is there a lot just nonsense after awhile. The idea of paying rent and your troops was nothing compared just a lot of the other utter bullshit and how long some simple maps can take and this was me playing on normal. I've had dreams about X-com it's weird. I like to commit to things and not look back and then is Open X-com which is basically the same but I think it runs without bugs there are plenty of other games that try to do the X-com thing like Hard West or some other or fantasy/horror ones I can't remember quite at the moment. I never tried the newer X-coms, but the older ones can be hilariously cruel. I love how the best move was to show up to the terror site and then just leave. Ignoring it is a worse penalty but just showing up and bouncing is such a cold move. --- Today's the same as ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 07/23/25 1:17:54 AM #41: |
Kamil posted... I never tried the newer X-coms, but the older ones can be hilariously cruel. I love how the best move was to show up to the terror site and then just leave. Ignoring it is a worse penalty but just showing up and bouncing is such a cold move.That sounds awful lmao. Tbf the first time I booted up the original X-COM and saw the aliens moving around in the dark I didn't even want to move my soldiers out of the ship. Why haven't you tried the new ones? They're not as freaky as the originals but the gameplay is way more interesting. --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sfcalimari 07/23/25 1:27:10 AM #42: |
Compsognathus posted... The tactical/strategic RPG genre is just not that popular. There are a ton of turn based type games that have combat like XCOM. There's just not that many that have the kind of base management stuff. XCOM EU/EW is the combat plus the ship interceptions plus the base management. All three complement one another and you really have to be careful. Phantom Doctrine is definitely different in most ways but it's the one that comes to mind in terms of having base management. Yes the combat is slapping people unconscious and stuffing them in garbage cans, but it's fun. You really don't want to go loud. --- "Tether even a roasted chicken." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 07/23/25 1:32:13 AM #43: |
I prefer the scariness more. That's why well I found some other games that in that vein, but it's also not my preferred game style. I never finished X-Com but I think that is pretty cool in of itself and I almost want to try Terror from the Deep though that'll be even worse. As I said Trouble Shooter seems like it has a really good long story and sometimes you get these story maps that are awesome, a lot of it is just here's a map way too big, find these people. I put on the cops on auto and it's still super tedious. --- Today's the same as ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dio 07/23/25 1:55:58 AM #44: |
Trouble Shooter Adv Children or Showgunners. --- Holy Diver. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 07/23/25 2:18:42 AM #45: |
the SRPG genre is the next best thing but unfortunately there's not a lot that's *directly* comparable to xcom itself, let me see here... -the Rad Codex games (Voidspire tactics, Alvora tactics, Horizon's Gate, Kingsvein): class based closer to the FFT end of the genre, all super good. -Mutant Year Zero / Miasma Chronicles / Lamplighter's League : real time exploration (think like xcom 2's concealment phase if it weren't turn-based) paired with tactics combat. -Troubleshooter (korean xcom) -Phantom Brigade (mecha) -The Trese Brothers games (Cyber Knights, Templar Battleforce, Heroes of Steel) -the Front Mission Games (...kinda, there's more plot in there so if you want xcom's random maps it doesn't scratch that itch) -Super Robot Wars (no base management or unit customization unfortunately) -Phoenix Point (there's some jank unfortunately) -Xenonauts (closer to classic xcom than the new ones, much different vibe) -Rogue Waters (pirate xcom roguelike) -Tactical Breach Wizards -Marvel's Midnight Suns (it's not xcom 3, but it uses a lot of the bones) -Othercide (grim fantasy roguelite) -Tenderfoot tactics -WH40k Mechanicus -WH40k Chaosgate -Battletech (more mechs) --- Why not go all in? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 07/23/25 2:32:21 AM #46: |
Oh how can I forget, the Shadowrun Returns trilogy. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 07/23/25 2:38:19 AM #47: |
^ good point I got Shadowrun Returns and DragonFall. The original test game seemed just way easier. I made a shaman in the second and then restarted as a street samurai because I thought it would be easier and that punk shaman filled the spot in DragonFall anyway. That game is so much harder. Maybe someday I'll just try the Hong Kong game and be a Street Samurai again. But I was getting really upset how long some of those missions took in Dragonfall and how much I would miss too :/ it was weird. The Returns game had small difficulty spikes but I mostly stomped on it without much worry. --- Today's the same as ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 07/23/25 2:42:41 AM #48: |
Kamil posted... Trouble Shooter:Abandoned Children is alright if you like to grind a lot and don't mind an anime aesthetic.If you want something quicker to get into and without the grind and esoteric skill system: Showgunners is fun. There's light level exploration between fights and the game is tied into a Running Man style show of kill-or-be-killed. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 07/23/25 4:01:41 AM #49: |
I feel like an asshole for forgetting this, but Lost Eidolons. I helped fund it on Kickstarter. --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kelemvor 07/23/25 7:56:01 PM #50: |
Hexenherz posted... That sounds awful lmao. Tbf the first time I booted up the original X-COM and saw the aliens moving around in the dark I didn't even want to move my soldiers out of the ship. Does this trigger you? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/edd700ec.jpg Do you hear the footsteps of the aliens, the gunfire, and the screams of civilians in your head? The interface and graphics weren't that good for the time. They were kind of clunky. The *atmosphere* though, and the horror of knowing the aliens can see in the dark but you cant at the beginning, gave XCOM a very "survival horror" feel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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