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Fun to be had and male on male is of course the hottest

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i have a lot of gay friends. from what i've observed, open relationships are common.

I have a guy that wants to come over and do stuff while we play the Switch 2 lol. I think he just wants to use me for my Switch 2 so I havent taken him up on the offer.

I mean my wife is also a gamer

Will_VIIII posted...

I mean my wife is also a gamer

Same

somethin so relaxing about playing helldivers with the hus

I hate it when people don't use POV: format right

apolloooo posted...

I hate it when people don't use POV: format right

It's a throuple.

Will_VIIII posted...

I mean my wife is also a gamer

same. And yes it involves Mario kart after work some days.

Kinda reminds me of a comment I once read on youtube. How female-female marriages have both parties expecting the other to read their mind. So they end up hating each other.

Meanwhile guys are just basically pals/bros that don't want to fight.

Purple_Cheetah posted...

Meanwhile guys are just basically pals/bros that don't want to fight.

That, and they get to satisfy each other sexually.

BalanceLost posted...

Fun to be had and male on male is of course the hottest

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They're playing Mario Kart. It would be different if it was Mario Party.

If I remember right gay marriages have a 20ish % divorce rate, hetero marriages have a 50ish % divorce rate, and lesbian marriages have a 70ish % divorce rate. Interpret that how you will...

Coming up on 30 years with my husbear, we're still happy.

I've had fewer relationships with men than with women, but the few relationships with men have tended to be less turbulent and more fun

I mean beside the fact that we eventually broke up, of course

My wife isn't a gamer but we play Mario kart pretty religiously

Kaldrenthebold posted...

My wife isn't a gamer but we play Mario kart pretty religiously

I like to think this doesn't mean "we play it with regularity" and it instead means "our Mario Kart experience is ritualized."

I mean yeah. Bros get bros. At no point do I have to consider what feelings my bros may be hiding. "Bro you wanna get wings" "hell yeah bro" "bro"

bros bros bros

Were_Wyrm posted...

If I remember right gay marriages have a 20ish % divorce rate, hetero marriages have a 50ish % divorce rate, and lesbian marriages have a 70ish % divorce rate. Interpret that how you will...

huh I'm curious why tbh

Is that 50% divorce rate even accurate these days?
Could have sworn I read it was skewed by those who marry like 3+ times

Biofighter55 posted...

huh I'm curious why tbh

That's what the comments in my post were mostly referring to. "You end up with both sides mad at the other, expecting the other to read their mind as to why."

:p
I doubt it's entirely true, but likely happens.

Biofighter55 posted...

huh I'm curious why tbh

Women initiate more divorces on average. In a heterosexual marriage about 70% of divorces are initiated by women. So it's fairly simple statistics. Two women will have a higher divorce rate and two men will have a lower divorce rate.

Biofighter55 posted...

huh I'm curious why tbh

My wife said that there is a common joke (but based on some level of truth) that lesbians move in together after like 2 weeks of dating. So maybe they marry way too fast as well?

As Bill Engvall said: "If it wasn't for the sex, I could be gay. Hell, you're just hanging out with your buddy then."

bsp77 posted...

My wife said that there is a common joke (but based on some level of truth) that lesbians move in together after like 2 weeks of dating. So maybe they marry way too fast as well?

That is a common joke about lesbian couples, yeah. Something along the lines of their third date being them going to a U-haul store.

Biofighter55 posted...

huh I'm curious why tbh

Bear in mind that's national data, it varies.

Like, from what I'm seeing, in Massachusetts the lesbian divorce rate is actually lower than the heterosexual rate. Queer relationship divorce rates are very related to the rates of affirmation, tolerance, and acceptance in the macro environment in which they were formed, blue states tend to be lower than red.

But for a couple of factors I've seen posted:

1. Divorce rates are expected to be higher for a while due to a "marriage drive" in the wake of Obergefell. Bunch of people got married because now they could, not necessarily because they should. Insufficient to describe different rates between gay and lesbian populations, however.
2. Backlash due to societal expectations or rejection. They get married, get uncomfortable attention because of their relationship, get divorced. Same problem as 1 regarding the difference in rates, however.
3. Children. Lesbian couples (particularly those that use IVF) run into relatively unique concerns regarding one parent being biologically related and the other not. I say "relatively" because this can arise in other couples, but typically (almost exclusively) due to children from prior relationships, which are a somewhat different deal.
4. Rushing into marriage. Distinct from point 1 in that it is less "we suddenly have the option when we did not" and more "we moved in together after the second date." Bit of a stereotype for lesbians, but it's not exactly uncommon across queer communities in general.

I spent a while debating if I should bring up the old "U-Haul" chestnut but it appears that was covered.

huh I see

I had a lesbian friend that broke up with her GF but bascially her GF got bored with her

she was more of a homebody and her GF was more of out going party girl and went out every night, eventually she cheated on her

bsp77 posted...

My wife said that there is a common joke (but based on some level of truth) that lesbians move in together after like 2 weeks of dating. So maybe they marry way too fast as well?

taht exactly what happened to my friend lol

The bride's family pays for the wedding. When two women get married, both families pay. When two men get married, the wedding is free.

On the other end, divorced men pay alimony and divorced women receive it. When two men get divorced, they both lose money. When two women get divorced, they both gain money. Therefore gay men are incentivized to stay together and gay women are incentivized to break up. It's simple economics.

This is a joke. I KNOW none of these rules are universal. Shut UP.

DrizztLink posted...

I like to think this doesn't mean "we play it with regularity" and it instead means "our Mario Kart experience is ritualized."

Oh it is. We played like 430 hours on the Wii U and looks like we're hitting 600 on the switch. We pop open some beverages and rage for an hour or two pretty regularly

Will_1231 posted...

That is a common joke about lesbian couples, yeah. Something along the lines of their third date being them going to a U-haul store.

Waiting for the 3rd date before moving in seems very reserved and conservative for lesbians.

DrizztLink posted...

Bear in mind that's national data, it varies.

Like, from what I'm seeing, in Massachusetts the lesbian divorce rate is actually lower than the heterosexual rate. Queer relationship divorce rates are very related to the rates of affirmation, tolerance, and acceptance in the macro environment in which they were formed, blue states tend to be lower than red.

But for a couple of factors I've seen posted:

1. Divorce rates are expected to be higher for a while due to a "marriage drive" in the wake of Obergefell. Bunch of people got married because now they could, not necessarily because they should. Insufficient to describe different rates between gay and lesbian populations, however.
2. Backlash due to societal expectations or rejection. They get married, get uncomfortable attention because of their relationship, get divorced. Same problem as 1 regarding the difference in rates, however.
3. Children. Lesbian couples (particularly those that use IVF) run into relatively unique concerns regarding one parent being biologically related and the other not. I say "relatively" because this can arise in other couples, but typically (almost exclusively) due to children from prior relationships, which are a somewhat different deal.
4. Rushing into marriage. Distinct from point 1 in that it is less "we suddenly have the option when we did not" and more "we moved in together after the second date." Bit of a stereotype for lesbians, but it's not exactly uncommon across queer communities in general.
I spent a while debating if I should bring up the old "U-Haul" chestnut but it appears that was covered.

hmmm interesting points

Biofighter55 posted...

huh I'm curious why tbh

The napkin theory I've generally bought into is the stress of having kids. Lesbian couples having a kid is not far off of straight couples (though they average less per family) while gay couples have notably less. Having kids is stressful and when you add in all of the other factors they come across as a major factor.

ellis123 posted...

Lesbian couples having a kid is not far off of straight couples (though they average less per family) while gay couples have notably less.

To clarify, you're saying that it's heterosexual - lesbian - gay in that order in terms of rates of raising kids?

Not making a gotcha, just want to be sure I'm getting your point correct.

Evening_Dragon posted...

I mean yeah. Bros get bros. At no point do I have to consider what feelings my bros may be hiding. "Bro you wanna get wings" "hell yeah bro" "bro"

bros bros bros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGuml-tc75A

i game w/ my wife all the time :P

if you are a gamer you need to be with a gamer. full stop.

That looks like an incredibly uncomfortable seating position. After 10 minutes in that position my back and neck would both be done.

DrizztLink posted...

Bear in mind that's national data, it varies.

Like, from what I'm seeing, in Massachusetts the lesbian divorce rate is actually lower than the heterosexual rate. Queer relationship divorce rates are very related to the rates of affirmation, tolerance, and acceptance in the macro environment in which they were formed, blue states tend to be lower than red.

i think another thing to consider is education rates. Those with bachelors degrees and higher tend to have lower divorce rates. Blue states tend to be more educated than red ones.

Cuticrusader09 posted...

i think another thing to consider is education rates. Those with bachelors degrees and higher tend to have lower divorce rates. Blue states tend to be more educated than red ones.

Solid point.

Evening_Dragon posted...

I mean yeah. Bros get bros. At no point do I have to consider what feelings my bros may be hiding. "Bro you wanna get wings" "hell yeah bro" "bro"

bros bros bros

this reminds me of that bit in Tales from the Borderlands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMCuJTqkPJI

apolloooo posted...

I hate it when people don't use POV: format right

Ditto. In this case, they might as well take out "POV" entirely.

My girlfriend and I have a co-op Stardew Valley farm and were married in game. Currently on year 3

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One of my best friends is a lesbian and shes been married for years, but some of her dating stories are fucking hilarious. Especially the breakups.

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That's interesting. I feel like a lot of pop culture depictions of lesbians generally show them having a large, dedicated female friend group that often consists of couples and former couples/exes etc.

Do your male friends tend to be gay or do you have a lot of straight friends?

I'm gay and my husband and I have been married for four years, and together for eight. He isn't a gamer but he likes to watch me play sometimes.

Also kind of going off what others have said, he is my only male friend. My best friend is female, but also I don't have a lot of friends to begin with. I'm kind of an introvert. On the flipside, my husband is pretty sociable and gets along well with most people.

DrizztLink posted...

To clarify, you're saying that it's heterosexual - lesbian - gay in that order in terms of rates of raising kids?

Not making a gotcha, just want to be sure I'm getting your point correct.

Roughly speaking, yeah. Last I knew (which, to be fair, was almost a decade ago) straight couples had the highest % of having kids, lesbians weren't super far behind, and gay couples were extremely far behind. The big difference between lesbian and straight couples was that lesbians tended to only have a single kid while straight couples tended to have 2 (with basically all of the 3+ kid families being from straight couples). Thus straight couples tended towards having more kids on average, but when you went by the "has a kid" metric they weren't that different than lesbian couples %-wise.