Current Events > U.S. Army Reserve Helicopter units are being eliminated

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jefffan 08/04/25 9:52:26 PM #1:	The Army Reserve Is Gutting Aviation Units. Thousands of Soldiers Are Being Left in the Lurch. \| Military.com https://share.google/1wq4heexjSIpVV81z Thousands of Army Reserve soldiers are being forced to scramble for new assignments after the service abruptly ordered the dismantling of its helicopter units, a sweeping move that has caught commanders off guard and upended aviation operations across the country. The cuts, which are set to eliminate all of the reserve's helicopter units by the end of the summer, are part of Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George's broader push to modernize the force by shedding legacy formations and redirecting resources toward emerging technologies such as drones and artificial intelligence. Oh boy. --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. <cite>jefffan posted [p:985998988] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>The Army Reserve Is Gutting Aviation Units. Thousands of Soldiers Are Being Left in the Lurch. \| Military.com https://share.google/1wq4heexjSIpVV81zThousands of Army Reserve soldiers are being forced to scramble for new assignments after the service abruptly ordered the dismantling of its helicopter units, a sweeping move that has caught commanders off guard and upended aviation operations across the country.The cuts, which are set to eliminate all of the reserve's helicopter units by the end of the summer, are part of Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George's broader push to modernize the force by shedding legacy formations and redirecting resources toward emerging technologies such as drones and artificial intelligence.Oh boy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EpicMickeyDrew 08/04/25 9:56:17 PM #3:	Whats wrong with that? --- https://psnprofiles.com/Shuffle666 <cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted [p:985999044] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Whats wrong with that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 08/04/25 10:00:19 PM #4:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That's a good one. Remember in Horizon Zero Dawn the military became totally automated. I'm sure active duty military who voted for Trump is celebrating right? --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. <cite>jefffan posted [p:985999087] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That's a good one. Remember in Horizon Zero Dawn the military became totally automated.I'm sure active duty military who voted for Trump is celebrating right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PballDepot 08/04/25 10:21:19 PM #5:	Begun, the Drone War has --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVhRWBGOZ0 <cite>PballDepot posted [p:985999356] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Begun, the Drone War has</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 08/04/25 10:26:09 PM #6:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... Whats wrong with that? Human pilots being replaced by drones and AI --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:985999396] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>EpicMickeyDrew posted... </cite><quote>Whats wrong with that?</quote>Human pilots being replaced by drones and AI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 08/04/25 10:28:01 PM #7:	PballDepot posted... Begun, the Drone War has Ukraine has really opened the floodgates. --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. <cite>jefffan posted [p:985999415] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>PballDepot posted... </cite><quote>Begun, the Drone War has</quote>Ukraine has really opened the floodgates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 08/04/25 10:36:39 PM #8:	Was actually talking with a couple of flight warrants about this earlier today, not this article but the Army moving away from Close Air Support/Attack Helicopters the primary reasoning seemed to be the unreliability or straight up inability to establish air superiority/dominance in the typical airspace that CAS/AHs operate in, almost entirely due to (commercial) drones being used in combat/disrupt air assets. This also doesn't mean that the US is going to just give up all of its birds, apparently the Marine Corps is interested in purchasing/co-opting the abandoned birds. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:985999518] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Was actually talking with a couple of flight warrants about this earlier today, not this article but the Army moving away from Close Air Support/Attack Helicoptersthe primary reasoning seemed to be the unreliability or straight up inability to establish air superiority/dominance in the typical airspace that CAS/AHs operate in, almost entirely due to (commercial) drones being used in combat/disrupt air assets.This also doesn't mean that the US is going to just give up all of its birds, apparently the Marine Corps is interested in purchasing/co-opting the abandoned birds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/04/25 10:41:04 PM #9:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... Whats wrong with that? Do you really trust the Trump's U.S. military with AI? --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:985999579] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>EpicMickeyDrew posted... </cite><quote>Whats wrong with that?</quote>Do you really trust the Trump's U.S. military with AI?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 08/04/25 10:44:49 PM #10:	Why get rid of helis instead of actually addressing the Bayraktar/Shahed gap in our drone arsenal? US military goes from hobbyist DJI to Reaper, Predator, Globalhawk. --- A Rod from God for the Gingarou! Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:985999628] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Why get rid of helis instead of actually addressing the Bayraktar/Shahed gap in our drone arsenal?US military goes from hobbyist DJI to Reaper, Predator, Globalhawk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/04/25 10:45:45 PM #11:	jefffan posted... Remember in Horizon Zero Dawn the military became totally automated. How did that work out again? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985999633] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>Remember in Horizon Zero Dawn the military became totally automated.</quote>How did that work out again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarshMellow 08/04/25 10:46:24 PM #12:	NoxObscuras posted... Human pilots being replaced by drones and AI They should do this with the president. <cite>MarshMellow posted [p:985999637] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Human pilots being replaced by drones and AI</quote>They should do this with the president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 08/04/25 10:52:47 PM #13:	How much of the military supported Trump I wonder? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:985999688] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>How much of the military supported Trump I wonder?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 08/04/25 11:00:17 PM #14:	Umbreon posted... How much of the military supported Trump I wonder? i mean, fwiw, this course of action was inevitable and is based off analysis of the evolving battlefield. Primarily the war in Ukraine is the driving factor in this kind of decision. It is hard to justify these birds when joe blow with a quadcopter can yeet an explosive laden drone at a bird and down it. There are also other factors to consider, like how much money is routinely invested in keeping these platforms operable vs their viability in the next theater of operation the US may find itself in. CAS was great for anti-insurgent activity, especially in the fairly open terrain environments of Iraq and Afghanistan. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:985999759] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>How much of the military supported Trump I wonder?</quote>i mean, fwiw, this course of action was inevitable and is based off analysis of the evolving battlefield. Primarily the war in Ukraine is the driving factor in this kind of decision.It is hard to justify these birds when joe blow with a quadcopter can yeet an explosive laden drone at a bird and down it.There are also other factors to consider, like how much money is routinely invested in keeping these platforms operable vs their viability in the next theater of operation the US may find itself in. CAS was great for anti-insurgent activity, especially in the fairly open terrain environments of Iraq and Afghanistan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 08/04/25 11:02:45 PM #16:	To be fair, Ukraine's been seeing incredible success focusing on drones. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:985999776] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, Ukraine's been seeing incredible success focusing on drones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/04/25 11:05:12 PM #17:	Yeah if youre maintaining a military why wouldnt you want it to be modern <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:985999797] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Yeah if youre maintaining a military why wouldnt you want it to be modern</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/04/25 11:06:29 PM #18:	Umbreon posted... How much of the military supported Trump I wonder? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/ Probably about 61%. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:985999806] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>How much of the military supported Trump I wonder?</quote>https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/Probably about 61%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cheat4ever 08/04/25 11:08:58 PM #19:	Solar_Crimson posted... Do you really trust the Trump's U.S. military with AI? I don't really trust Trump's U.S. military under any criteria. --- MSI Delta 15 5800h/6700m-10gb/16gb <cite>cheat4ever posted [p:985999823] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite><quote>Do you really trust the Trump's U.S. military with AI?</quote>I don't really trust Trump's U.S. military under any criteria.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 08/05/25 12:22:32 AM #20:	Solar_Crimson posted... Do you really trust the Trump's U.S. military with AI? I mean, given how Grok behaves itself the drones might interpret "America's enemies" as being Trump and blow him up instead of actual citizens. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:986000258] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite><quote>Do you really trust the Trump's U.S. military with AI?</quote>I mean, given how Grok behaves itself the drones might interpret "America's enemies" as being Trump and blow him up instead of actual citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 08/05/25 12:33:55 AM #21:	NoxObscuras posted... Human pilots being replaced by drones and AI Call of Duty Black Ops 2 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/646b598f.jpg --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:986000331] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Human pilots being replaced by drones and AI</quote>Call of Duty Black Ops 2https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/646b598f.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 08/05/25 1:18:01 AM #22:	wackyteen posted... Was actually talking with a couple of flight warrants about this earlier today, not this article but the Army moving away from Close Air Support/Attack Helicopters the primary reasoning seemed to be the unreliability or straight up inability to establish air superiority/dominance in the typical airspace that CAS/AHs operate in, almost entirely due to (commercial) drones being used in combat/disrupt air assets. This also doesn't mean that the US is going to just give up all of its birds, apparently the Marine Corps is interested in purchasing/co-opting the abandoned birds. Shame the Marines wanna get their hands on 'em. Coast guard friend of mine says they could use those birds lol --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:986000562] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>Was actually talking with a couple of flight warrants about this earlier today, not this article but the Army moving away from Close Air Support/Attack Helicoptersthe primary reasoning seemed to be the unreliability or straight up inability to establish air superiority/dominance in the typical airspace that CAS/AHs operate in, almost entirely due to (commercial) drones being used in combat/disrupt air assets.This also doesn't mean that the US is going to just give up all of its birds, apparently the Marine Corps is interested in purchasing/co-opting the abandoned birds.</quote>Shame the Marines wanna get their hands on 'em. Coast guard friend of mine says they could use those birds lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 08/05/25 1:19:53 AM #23:	jefffan posted... I'm sure active duty military who voted for Trump is celebrating right? Not that Im defending the decision, but the Reserve component is different than active duty. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:986000566] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>I'm sure active duty military who voted for Trump is celebrating right?</quote>Not that Im defending the decision, but the Reserve component is different than active duty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 08/05/25 1:21:28 AM #24:	Unknown5uspect posted... Shame the Marines wanna get their hands on 'em. Coast guard friend of mine says they could use those birds lol Theyd probably be better off with the cargo ones. Im still surprised the Marine Corps eliminated the Abrams. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:986000572] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Unknown5uspect posted... </cite><quote>Shame the Marines wanna get their hands on 'em. Coast guard friend of mine says they could use those birds lol</quote>Theyd probably be better off with the cargo ones. Im still surprised the Marine Corps eliminated the Abrams. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 08/05/25 7:42:07 AM #25:	Cacciato posted... Not that Im defending the decision, but the Reserve component is different than active duty. This is happening in Active Duty as well. Like i said above, it is mostly just about the lack of true viability in the modern battlefield and the costs associated with maintaining the birds. Parts for Aviation are a lot more rigorously tested and cost significantly more than off the shelf stuff. It's part of where the "$1 screw costs the Army $100" observation comes from. Yeah, the government routinely overpays but it isn't always without reason. Then you have very strict accountability of parts in/out for these birds and that turns, say, a quick 15 minute job into hour(s). Combine that with the training demands to even get maintainers qualified and the high turnover natural to the military ("I'm only here for my GI Bill") and it just becomes very expensive very fast to maintain assets that will have very limited or no major impact in the future. It sucks and it is sad but it's war at the end of the day. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:986001808] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Cacciato posted... </cite><quote>Not that Im defending the decision, but the Reserve component is different than active duty.</quote>This is happening in Active Duty as well. Like i said above, it is mostly just about the lack of true viability in the modern battlefield and the costs associated with maintaining the birds. Parts for Aviation are a lot more rigorously tested and cost significantly more than off the shelf stuff. It's part of where the "$1 screw costs the Army $100" observation comes from. Yeah, the government routinely overpays but it isn't always without reason. Then you have very strict accountability of parts in/out for these birds and that turns, say, a quick 15 minute job into hour(s). Combine that with the training demands to even get maintainers qualified and the high turnover natural to the military ("I'm only here for my GI Bill") and it just becomes very expensive very fast to maintain assets that will have very limited or no major impact in the future. It sucks and it is sad but it's war at the end of the day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 08/05/25 8:11:22 AM #26:	Makes sense. Wars are transitioning more toward drones, AI, and manufacturing/production. Regardless of how some may feel about this on a moral standpoint or something our rivals frankly couldnt care less. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:986001919] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Makes sense. Wars are transitioning more toward drones, AI, and manufacturing/production. Regardless of how some may feel about this on a moral standpoint or something our rivals frankly couldnt care less.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StopBeinMad 08/07/25 3:38:59 PM #27:	Hopefully the military realises what's most important. <cite>StopBeinMad posted [p:986026626] in U.S. Army ... [t:81022993]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully the military realises what's most important.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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