Current Events > Oh my god, how did I even play Megaman X when I was younger?

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I'm using a 360 controller and the amount of wall jumping I had to do is killing me!

If only I could rebind the attack button to RT, that would alleviate a lot of the pain!

I had to stop playing after dying too many times to Spark Mandril's miniboss.

I ask myself that question a lot when I revisit older games I haven't played in a long time. I also find myself being flustered by the difficulty when I know as a kid I skated through all of these games with no problem. Seems getting older means older games get harder.

I'm with ya there TC. Every few years I replay X asking myself "why after all this time have I never once beat Sigma, he can't be that hard can he?" And then I'm always reminded "oh, right, it's the motherfucking walljumping."

I could have sworn I rebound my dash key in the Mega Man X collection for PS2 but I may be wrong. I remember hating having to wall jump with that button combination even as a teenager.

Yazarogi posted...

I could have sworn I rebound my dash key in the Mega Man X collection for PS2 but I may be wrong. I remember hating having to wall jump with that button combination even as a teenager.

In the Steam version, I can't get the game to recognise the trigger buttons.

It is the opposite for me, maybe because I just use the default controls and then I realized that trigger buttons are a godsend so you don't have to use the thumb for everything.

St0rmFury posted...

In the Steam version, I can't get the game to recognise the trigger buttons.

ahhh yea I can't play Stardew Valley with a controller through steam either!

St0rmFury posted...

In the Steam version, I can't get the game to recognise the trigger buttons.

Not even the bumpers? I've always rebound dash to L or R, game is impossible without it

Kaldrenthebold posted...

Not even the bumpers? I've always rebound dash to L or R, game is impossible without it

Bumpers are already bound to cycling boss weapons.

But I didn't try rebinding them, I'll try later.

I'm using double tap to dash right now because I can't charge and dash at the same time with my thumb and it's a PITA.

I've never found the X games too terribly difficult. That Spark Mandrill miniboss is indeed a motherfucker, though.

I dont know how people beat X3 on the SNES. The part after the final boss is infuriating.

Because you were hooked on this and you knew that your life would never be the same ever again

https://youtu.be/8F2jf0NRl2Y?si=ZGGLzerw33pJzzU5

Well the SNES controller just kinda works for Mega Man X. I found the 360 DPad to be atrocious and the face buttons have a bit of "stick" to them so mashing wallkicks, dash jumps, and jump n'shooting is pretty hard on that controller.

darkknight109 posted...

I've never found the X games too terribly difficult. That Spark Mandrill miniboss is indeed a motherfucker, though.

This is why you fight him after storm eagle

St0rmFury posted...

I'm using a 360 controller and the amount of wall jumping I had to do is killing me!

If only I could rebind the attack button to RT, that would alleviate a lot of the pain!

I had to stop playing after dying too many times to Spark Mandril's miniboss.

Mark Spandril

How was I able to beat Battletoads?

Video relevant to the topic.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GYD2O23hfJ4&pp=ygUjdGhlcmUncyBzb21ldGhpbmcgYWJvdXQgZG9ua2V5IGtvbmc%3D

St0rmFury posted...

Bumpers are already bound to cycling boss weapons.

But I didn't try rebinding them, I'll try later.

I'm using double tap to dash right now because I can't charge and dash at the same time with my thumb and it's a PITA.

Yeah replace Y with one of the bumpers to cycle. It's what I've always done. Then make one of them a dash and you're golden

I still have muscle memory for that game so it's fine, but when I play any of the other ones, something feels off and I just stop playing.

i know i'm a bit of a weirdo but i never understood how putting dash or shoot on a shoulder button easier. I can fairly easily dash, jump and shoot/hold a charge using only my thumb. hell, i speedran X1 and X3 that way and got some decent times (at least in X1)

Goldice posted...

This is why you fight him after storm eagle

Yeah when Storm Eagle's been defeated, Spark Mandrill's stage loses power and as a result the miniboss can't it's lightning bolts. And it goes down easily using Storm Tornado.

I can probably still 100% X1 and 2 even after not playing for years now

I played these games when they came out. I did it somehow.

Played it again in the modern collections, and had to rebind everything. I dont know how I did it before.

I bought the X games a while ago and tried playing them for the first time but I simply cannot play any game with double tap to dash. That has got to be the most idiotic control choice there is. Was it that way on the old console versions?

Xatrion posted...

I bought the X games a while ago and tried playing them for the first time but I simply cannot play any game with double tap to dash. That has got to be the most idiotic control choice there is. Was it that way on the old console versions?

There's a dedicated dash button in the X games

Takuya_Lee posted...

There's a dedicated dash button in the X games

I know. The problem is that there's no way to turn off double tap to dash, so there are far too many instances of dashing when I don't want to, ie, right off a cliff.

Alright, I've rebind shoot to RB and it feels much better now. Got all the subtanks & hearts and will tackle Sigma's fortress tomorrow.

The last time I remember thinking that was Star Fox 64. Not that the game is hard, but aiming for the high score medals. I must've played it so much back then that I was a damned master of the game, because I can't understand how I got them before, lol.

I always map the dash to the left shoulder. Thats always felt super natural to me. Im also one of those weirdos who always pauses to change weapons since thats how it was done in the OG NES games, so remapping the weapon swap doesnt bother me since I never use it

St0rmFury posted...

In the Steam version, I can't get the game to recognise the trigger buttons.

Even after changing the Controller Layout via the Steam settings?

Holy shit Sigma's final form is kicking my mega ass...

My reflexes really aren't what they used to be lol

masterpug53 posted...

I'm with ya there TC. Every few years I replay X asking myself "why after all this time have I never once beat Sigma, he can't be that hard can he?" And then I'm always reminded "oh, right, it's the motherfucking walljumping."

Breezed through the regular levels, it was fun. Then got to a part with a bunch f enemies and needing dash wall jumping and, well, I haven't gotten back to it. I guess I could try playing with the button inputs but haven't gotten back to it to try.

Oof, I forgot I had to restart the entire Sigma's fortress level from the beginning each time I exit the game.

Decided to start X4 for a change of pace. Web Spider kicked my ass.

Fingers hurt now, growing old sucks.

St0rmFury posted...

Oof, I forgot I had to restart the entire Sigma's fortress level from the beginning each time I exit the game.

Yup, this is what killed my motivation for good a few weeks back. I figured the save system on the anniversary collection would be more forgiving than that, but nope, eat shit player, you're doing Vile and the spider boss and all that shit all over again.

masterpug53 posted...

Yup, this is what killed my motivation for good a few weeks back. I figured the save system on the anniversary collection would be more forgiving than that, but nope, eat shit player, you're doing Vile and the spider boss and all that shit all over again.

Yeah... I no longer have the patience I once had as a kid. I'm moving on.

Anyway, I bought the legacy collection mainly for X2 & X3 since I didn't get a chance to play those last time.

BlueBoy675 posted...

Im also one of those weirdos who always pauses to change weapons since thats how it was done in the OG NES games, so remapping the weapon swap doesnt bother me since I never use it

If that makes one a weirdo, call me a weirdo as well, since I never use the shoulder buttons to change weapons either. I'm not memorizing the weapon order in the pause screen for that, nor am I memorizing each and every one of X's changed armor colors and matching them with each weapon.

But then, I never use non-Buster weapons anyway, outside of when they're required for upgrades or Buster-immune enemies and such. Even for boss weaknesses, I'd really only use them against particularly aggravating ones, it's mostly Buster-only runs for me nowadays.

As a kid I was poor so I rarely had new games and thus would play the hell out of them and got really good.

These days anything slightly annoys me I just play something else.

This is why I'm fine with emulator QOL features like save states and fast forward.

KCJ5062 posted...

Yeah when Storm Eagle's been defeated, Spark Mandrill's stage loses power and as a result the miniboss can't it's lightning bolts. And it goes down easily using Storm Tornado.

I feel like there aren't enough games using mechanics like this, where the levels are connected and what you do in one impacts other ones. Like taking out a power plant means stuff in another level won't have enough juice to operate, or breaking a dam makes a different level more flooded.