Current Events > Anti-Gerrymandering Group Will Not Oppose Newsom Gerrymandering California

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Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Polls suggest that this is an unpopular opinion in California. Which means...yeah, this will probably fail.

Most voters support it now.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/20/newsom-poll-california-redistricting

Gov. Gavin Newsom's bid to redraw California's congressional seats to create more Democrat-friendly districts has a 22-point advantage in support among the state's voters, Newsom's longtime pollster writes in an internal memo obtained by Axios.

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David Binder, a prominent Democratic pollster who has long worked for Newsom, found that 57% of California voters backed the redistricting measure, while 35% opposed and 8% were undecided.

Voters' support appears to have increased as they've learned more about the measure, Binder said: A July survey had found that 51% favored Newsom's redistricting push.

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Binder wrote that support for the redistricting measure changes based on how it's pitched to voters.

If Proposition 50 is framed as doing away with the state's independent redistricting commission that is meant to avoid partisan gerrymandering, the measure appears to have less support, Binder concluded, citing other surveys.

"When voters hear that Proposition 50 allows new maps to be designed on a temporary basis, triggered by partisan action in other state such as Texas, and retains the independent redistricting commission, they support the measure by a double-digit margin," Binder wrote.

When will Republicans attempt to screw with the Senate by splitting states? I doubt Texas would do it, because I imagine Texans' egos wouldn't want to give up being the 2nd biggest state and 2nd most populous, plus carving up cities into different states is a completely different matter from carving them up for Congressional districts. But Wyoming, Alaska, the Dakotas, Idaho and Montana?

Patriotwolf posted...

So you'd rather be just like them? Let's not pretend that Biden didn't screw the Democrats and Kamala buy staying in too long. Let's not pretend that Kamala didn't screw up with her messaging. The consequences of that and the lost election had nothing to do with gerrymandering and everything to do with being prideful.

Gen Z is growing up with a heavy distrust of both parties. Keep acting like Republicans and you'll continue to be treated like them. They will call you hypocrites, and they'll be right.

Imagine making this argument today, in fucking 2025, when Donald Trump is literally dismantling our country, day by day, brick by brick, law by law.

Just imagine how divorced from reality you'd have to be.

Especially when if were to believe Biden was completely out of it then the blame would be entirely on one person. Someone who more than anyone stood to benefit greatly from limited time to hold a primary.

The idea that Biden is to blame is ridiculous.

mybbqrules posted...

Imagine making this argument today, in fucking 2025, when Donald Trump is literally dismantling our country, day by day, brick by brick, law by law.

Just imagine how divorced from reality you'd have to be.

Patriotwolf is definitely a Trump supporter.

No matter the argument, he always like a chameleon shifts his argument to finger wag at Democrats more than Republicans.

You dont have to take my word for it, just look into his posting history and who he typically condemns the most. His approach is always the 'muddy the waters' approach of not outright bluntly supporting Trump, but trying to get enough people to condemn Dems no matter what.