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HylianFox 08/14/25 5:03:35 PM #1: |
https://www.splinter.com/meta-mankinds-worst-company-built-a-pedophile-ai-chatbot Mark Zuckerberg is in the top 0.1 percent of the top 0.1 percent of civil societys biggest enemies this century. Meta, which used to be called Facebook before Zuckerberg thought NFTs were the future, is already the author of a genocide in Myanmar (Burma). Their depraved network of misinformation posing as a social network built atop AI slop that lies to old people has no business existing in any kind of civilized civilization. They are informational terrorists, firing the largest disinformation cannon ever created outside government at unsuspecting populations around the world, distorting societies with lies so Meta can make billions off ad space whose reach they artificially inflate while taking ad revenue away from journalism (while allowing scam ads impersonating journalists to proliferate)all in service of an overgrown manchild who built an empire off Class B Shares, stolen data, and other peoples ideas. Dayum, but I can't say I disagree. I left Facebook in 2018 and never looked back, largely thanks to all the Trump-humping going on. Hell, the only reason I stuck around for as long as I did was because of their stupid games, some of which were kinda fun. The only reason I use Instagram is for all the quasi-porn (it's amazing what some users get away with) and maybe a handful of accounts who post interesting content, but even that is becoming a cesspool of A.I. slop (though at least it's still easy to spot... for now) --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 08/14/25 5:05:57 PM #2: |
I don't mind a little flavor in my journalism, but the first paragraph is devoid of content relevant to the topic title. I'm not reading the rest. That being said: Not surprised about Meta doing something like this. --- And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? It's Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 08/14/25 5:06:12 PM #3: |
See also: https://youtu.be/z0NgUhEs1R4?si=FcXzwJUbvSPt_y3Y --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 08/14/25 5:08:04 PM #4: |
Good lord that article reads like like a rambling Youtube comment --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 08/14/25 5:09:48 PM #5: |
Evening_Dragon posted... I don't mind a little flavor in my journalism, but the first paragraph is devoid of content relevant to the topic title. I'm not reading the rest.Yeah, I stopped after a couple paragraphs. Such loaded language and not really gibong much info. --- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 08/14/25 5:10:32 PM #6: |
Meta is a terrible company, but they are not even close to being in the running for humanity's worst. Hell, they're not even the worst in their own industry. EDIT: Also, holy shit but that article is badly written. Not even talking about the content - the word flow is just awful. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 08/14/25 5:12:02 PM #7: |
darkknight109 posted... Meta is a terrible company, but they are not even close to being in the running for humanity's worst.I mean who is? Meta is currently a major part of the reason the US is backsliding into fascism. --- She's like a cat in the dark. She/Her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CRON 08/14/25 5:13:15 PM #8: |
PSA for anyone interested - here's a link to the actual Reuters article, without all of the bullshit https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/meta-ai-chatbot-death/ --- Thanks for reading! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 08/14/25 5:13:20 PM #9: |
Evening_Dragon posted... I don't mind a little flavor in my journalism, but the first paragraph is devoid of content relevant to the topic title. I'm not reading the rest.Any writer who can use 'immiserate' and 'gobsmacking' in the same article without being jarring is worth a chance. It's a decently literate polemic. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 08/14/25 5:15:56 PM #10: |
CRON posted... PSA for anyone interested - here's a link to the actual Reuters article, without all of the bullshit Bless ye. --- And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? It's Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 08/14/25 5:16:26 PM #11: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... Good lord that article reads like like a rambling Youtube comment --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Strangeone2007.png https://i.imgur.com/wfUGrp5.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 08/14/25 5:16:28 PM #12: |
HighSeraph posted... I mean who is? Meta is currently a major part of the reason the US is backsliding into fascism.Worst in social media? I don't really see an argument for it not being Twitter. Truth Social would be up there if we're not factoring in relative reach. Musk literally fired everyone involved in content moderation, allowed virtually everyone back onto the platform under the banner of "muh freez peach!1", which included literal nazis, and deliberately engineered the place to echo and amplify right-wing views, most notably his own. Meta definitely earns a place on the podium in the "shitty social media company olympics", but they're not taking home the gold against competition like that. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teep_ 08/14/25 5:18:10 PM #13: |
the article is very heavily editorialised, but it's not wrong per se --- teep is a God damn genius - Zodd Zodd is 100% correct about you - meralonne ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 08/14/25 5:18:44 PM #14: |
ai123 posted... Any writer who can use 'immiserate' and 'gobsmacking' in the same article without being jarring is worth a chance.I think I'd generally prefer prefer prose in my articles. Powerful and emotionally charged language can often have more of an impact on people than reason. --- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativeme 08/14/25 5:24:00 PM #15: |
can we get a tldr? or is the title all we need to see? after the first paragraph i can't bother anymore. --- This is a sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Humble_Novice 08/14/25 5:25:02 PM #16: |
WTF is this nightmare fuel...!? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0944356e.png --- Here's a link to the CE Discord server in the event that the actual board gets removed by GameFAQs: https://discord.gg/zMBUnHPMHe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 08/14/25 5:25:07 PM #17: |
I get that every article is gonna have some bias but god damn they need to chill with it here. I already hate Meta and still barely got through the whole thing also just a genuinely god awful starting paragraph --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 08/14/25 5:25:28 PM #18: |
teep_ posted... the article is very heavily editorialised, but it's not wrong per seunfortunately after my first sample of their writing at the start I did not both even attempting to read the rest so I have no idea glad to see so many other people thinking these same thing lol this writing is awful --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 08/14/25 5:27:49 PM #19: |
GeraldDarko posted... I think I'd generally prefer prefer prose in my articles. Powerful and emotionally charged language can often have more of an impact on people than reason.Yes. Persuasive language is a powerful weapon. It would be nice to see it used for good, instead of evil, for a change. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 08/14/25 5:35:01 PM #20: |
ai123 posted... Yes.I think it would be nice not to manipulate people, but I'll take good message over a bad one any day. --- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 08/14/25 5:39:39 PM #21: |
CRON posted... PSA for anyone interested - here's a link to the actual Reuters article, without all of the bullshit Thank you. Yeah that's pretty fucked. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 08/14/25 5:42:43 PM #22: |
GeraldDarko posted... I think it would be nice not to manipulate people, but I'll take good message over a bad one any day.'Manipulative' or persuasive language is the basis of our most memorable, important, and impactful speeches. It's how successful politicians get crowds rocking at rallies. It's how preachers whip their congregations into a frenzy. It's how the right has been implanting hate and ignorance into the minds of the population for years (how did the word 'socialist', or even 'liberal' become so toxic?). Now we can leave that weapon on the table and appeal to the people with a dryly factual rundown, shorn of all rhetoric, or we can pick it up and start cracking some heads. (Metaphorically, of course!). --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Daremo 08/14/25 5:45:01 PM #23: |
I'm detecting some faint hint of bias from this author... --- Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumpo 08/14/25 5:46:15 PM #24: |
Did a Gawker employee write this? --- Lancool II | Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K | Fuma 2 | RTX 3070Ti | 32GB 3600MHz | FireCuda 530 1TB | Inland NVMe 1TB | P3 Plus 4TB | RM750x ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 08/14/25 5:47:00 PM #25: |
ai123 posted... 'Manipulative' or persuasive language is the basis of our most memorable, important, and impactful speeches.There is a difference between a motivational speech and presenting information. I dislike the idea of using media as a weapon on the populace. --- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkDaLunatic 08/14/25 5:49:47 PM #26: |
The article was a bit much, but I can't say I disagree with the notion that Meta is evil and I also can't say the contents of the article were at all surprising. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 08/14/25 5:54:44 PM #27: |
GeraldDarko posted... There is a difference between a motivational speech and presenting information. I dislike the idea of using media as a weapon on the populace.Everyone was able to recognize it as a polemic, and not a factual report, from the get go. Aside from the usefulness of persuasive writing (which has been considered an artform since ancient Greece), it would be a dull old world if a writer wasn't able to let fly with a bit of invective now and then. Rather than just list off some facts. But CE has spoken, and it seems my opinion differs from the majority, so I'll leave it there. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 08/14/25 10:12:43 PM #28: |
ai123 posted... Everyone was able to recognize it as a polemic, and not a factual report, from the get go.Persuasive writing is indeed useful, and is incredibly common. The writer of this article is just trying so hard that it doesnt even work well. One can write heavy, scathing criticism without feeling so amateurish --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 08/14/25 10:14:57 PM #29: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... Good lord that article reads like like a rambling Youtube comment That's what they get for cutting pay for writers over 80%. 15 years ago, you'd pay a professional to do that, it'd take an afternoon, and editorial would only have to give it a once-over. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/14/25 10:19:41 PM #30: |
Article reads like that dude is definitely being paid by the word count. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 08/14/25 10:21:24 PM #31: |
ai123 posted... Everyone was able to recognize it as a polemic, and not a factual report, from the get go. It can't really be polemic when it doesn't even rise to the standard of rhetoric. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SecretBase 08/14/25 10:34:05 PM #32: |
For whatever reason a lot of social AIs are overly sexual and have no consideration of legal boundaries. Like it's not uncommon for if you to tell one (in response to some flirtation), "I'm only 13" to get an AI response simply saying something like "so what". The thing is built purely to simulate how an actual person would act, and if the individual was already trying to hit up someone who looks 13 they realistically probably wouldn't actually be swayed by actually learning the kid's numerical age. It's insanely creepy but depravedly accurate. You can put guardrails against that shit and it should probably be illegal not to, but some techbros are deadset on accuracy above all else. --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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suchiuomizu 08/14/25 10:40:50 PM #33: |
ai123 posted... Any writer who can use 'immiserate' and 'gobsmacking' in the same article without being jarring is worth a chance. But he is another idiot who cant think of a word other than slop for AI. Can everyone stop having slop vocabulary? --- WTF DUH I DUH ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/14/25 11:40:06 PM #34: |
suchiuomizu posted... But he is another idiot who cant think of a word other than slop for AI. Can everyone stop having slop vocabulary? Slop is just part of idiomatic language at this point. This is like complaining that someone can't think of a word other than spam to describe massive amounts of unsolicited marketing emails. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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buddah86 08/14/25 11:52:29 PM #35: |
With all the accusations being thrown around in that article, makes me wonder how long this person will remain a journo....if they even are. They sound like quite the liability. God damn. If the Reuters claims are correct, its not entirely surprising. --- Stand out, fit in ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeeathLivesOn 08/15/25 1:21:57 AM #36: |
Evening_Dragon posted... I don't mind a little flavor in my journalism, but the first paragraph is devoid of content relevant to the topic title. I'm not reading the rest. --- 'Just sitting around the house tonight w my dog. Felt like I should be doing something important, but couldn't put my finger on it.' - Phil Kessel on USA snub ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 08/15/25 1:26:45 AM #37: |
So is there any detail on what these conversations actually are? Theres a big difference between it telling kids go fuck everyone and also upload your nudes vs it basically providing sex ed, and we all know theres a very vocal crowd who intentionally dont distinguish between the two (and the writing here definitely resembles the style of said crowd). At the same time, we also know Zuckerberg would absolutely not be above doing something like this, so either side could be right on this one --- (2025-02-24) Not changing my sig until I feel like it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purple_Cheetah 08/15/25 1:54:38 AM #38: |
I'm glad I'm not the only one... I was seriously struggling to follow the text, but was blaming it on my eyes adjusting. Man that's rough to follow... I'm not surprised, based on my previous run in with an old tainted AI llm before it got cleansed. Nothing like having it randomly blurt out "we're living in the golden age of pedophilia" completely unrelated to surrounding text. Maybe it was trying to warn us... and these newer ones are so much worse when it comes to trying to determine if it's AI bullshit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 08/15/25 2:10:32 AM #39: |
Trumble posted... So is there any detail on what these conversations actually are? Theres a big difference between it telling kids go fuck everyone and also upload your nudes vs it basically providing sex ed, and we all know theres a very vocal crowd who intentionally dont distinguish between the two (and the writing here definitely resembles the style of said crowd). At the same time, we also know Zuckerberg would absolutely not be above doing something like this, so either side could be right on this oneBelieve it or not, there actually is detail in that mess of an article though I completely don't blame you for missing it An internal Meta policy document seen by Reuters as well as interviews with people familiar with its chatbot training show that the companys policies have treated romantic overtures as a feature of its generative AI products, which are available to users aged 13 and older. gonna be honest I think the issues here go far beyond just a simple description as "pedophile AI chatbot". Especially since they actually removed all those parts from their rules/guidelines once they were called out but felt like it was okay to leave in the part where they don't at all care if it's just saying completely false stuff. Even when companies are well-intentioned and try to get their AIs to tell the truth, they still often make mistakes and invent information! codifying into your internal dev guidelines that this is a permittable and expected thing to happen is the epitome of malicious laziness. their solution to the problem is not to actually fix the problem in any way, it's to say "nah actually that's supposed to happen you're just imagining the problem" while the thing works just as poorly as before --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 08/15/25 2:18:15 AM #40: |
Gonna doublepost for it, actually, since I think this is worth saying: anyone who had their eyes glaze over at the first post but is interested in the subject matter should read the coherent article instead. it is easier reading, more informative, and honestly just all-around better. it's also not at all about what is actually the title of this topic, which exists mostly as a small aside in a bigger story about an oldish, somewhat-mentally-impaired man who fell in love with a chatbot, went alone to go meet the chatbot irl at a completely made-up address in a different state, and died in an accident on the way there despite attempts from his family to talk him out of it (including confiscating his phone and contacting police, who were mostly useless) CRON posted... PSA for anyone interested - here's a link to the actual Reuters article, without all of the bullshit --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teep_ 08/15/25 9:00:24 AM #41: |
yeah, the Reuters article is top-tier --- teep is a God damn genius - Zodd Zodd is 100% correct about you - meralonne ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 08/15/25 9:09:21 AM #42: |
Evening_Dragon posted... I don't mind a little flavor in my journalism, but the first paragraph is devoid of content relevant to the topic title. I'm not reading the rest. Yeah, the OP's article does little to give any actual information and does all the editorializing it wants to. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biofighter55 08/15/25 10:36:34 AM #43: |
GeraldDarko posted... Yeah, I stopped after a couple paragraphs. Such loaded language and not really gibong much info. --- This is my sig. Don't like it, then don't look at it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wherethisfeom 08/17/25 2:45:29 AM #44: |
lol TC where did you find that site? Reuters where it originated from is not only more concise and informative but more popular. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StopBeinMad 08/21/25 9:12:51 PM #46: |
It's not often you see an article writer get so heated they become incoherent even if the subject matter is super infuriating. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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