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AceMos 08/15/25 8:01:22 PM #1: |
the joker obviously could not get one but what about his other villains i think only poison ivy and two face could get one thoe mr freeze probably still gets sent to arkham as they have the facilities to safely hold him where as black gate would not have a cold room --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Accolon 08/15/25 8:01:42 PM #2: |
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archizzy 08/15/25 8:03:49 PM #3: |
Harley Quinn. It's not that I think she is actually insane but I think she is self aware and manipulative enough to emulate insanity that she could pull off an insanity plea. Especially with her background as a psychiatrist she would know how to put on the right show for evaluation. She is highly intelligent and would know how to have a chance at this. You might argue she isn't a villain but anyway she came to mind. This isn't about being insane, this is about getting an insanity plea. An entirely different scenario. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 08/15/25 8:04:48 PM #4: |
Probably just Two-Face. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 08/15/25 8:04:51 PM #5: |
Maybe two-Face. MAYBE. Ivy absolutely not --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JohnEtrav 08/15/25 8:05:21 PM #6: |
Batman. Hes a goddamn lunatic. --- Let's get down to brass tacks. How much for the ape? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thekosmicfool 08/15/25 8:06:03 PM #7: |
IANAL, why wouldn't the Joker be able to successfully plead insanity? --- Cover your knees up if you're gonna be walkin' around everywhere. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 08/15/25 8:06:47 PM #8: |
The mad hatter probably --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/15/25 8:07:12 PM #9: |
thekosmicfool posted... IANAL, why wouldn't the Joker be able to successfully plead insanity? IANAL? and joker is very aware of his actions he knows the things he does is wrong he just dont care he hurts people entirely because he enjoys it --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thekosmicfool 08/15/25 8:08:52 PM #10: |
I Am Not A Lawyer --- Cover your knees up if you're gonna be walkin' around everywhere. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Accolon 08/15/25 8:10:48 PM #11: |
And wait, isn't that why his villains all end up in Arkham? --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/15/25 8:12:18 PM #12: |
Accolon posted... And wait, isn't that why his villains all end up in Arkham? yes but that is why i put the word "actually" in the title as in applying real world law to it --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 08/15/25 8:12:48 PM #13: |
thekosmicfool posted... IANAL, why wouldn't the Joker be able to successfully plead insanity? The insanity plea is not actually as easy as "I'm a little crazy." Having a weird compulsion to leaving clues, dressing up as a clown, or having a shark theme isn't enough to claim it. The one claiming insanity must be actively unaware of their actions in some jurisdictions. Like the classic hypo is "thought they were squeezing a lemon when they were squeezing someone's head." Others, it's "must be actively unaware of the reality of their actions." The Joker is capable of planning, sadism, etc. No chance. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mercurydude 08/15/25 8:18:04 PM #14: |
The Ventriloquist, maybe. I don't know if she ever popped up in the comics, but that Baby Doll character from the animated series would also be a contender, as well as Maxie Zeus. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 08/15/25 8:19:30 PM #15: |
Joker being sent off to Arkham on reasons of "insanity" made a lot of sense in the 1940s. Not because he was truly insane, but just because of society's general understanding of and attitudes towards mental health and sanity. I don't think any of his villains would fit for insanity pleas today except maybe Two Face and Scarface. Freeze could potentially get some sort of mitigated sentence...the first time. But after the tenth episode of trying to turn Gotham into a noiresicle they'd probably just throw the book at him. >_> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McmadnessV3 08/15/25 8:22:56 PM #17: |
I could see the riddler getting it once or twice. The mad hatter too depending on which version it is. Ventriloquist as well. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 08/15/25 8:30:00 PM #18: |
Two Face Maxie Zeus Ventriloquist Not many others. -Harley Quinn may be able to fake it. -Poison Ivy is capable of mass genocide and is otherwise too dangerous. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 08/16/25 4:34:42 AM #19: |
Yeah, I think you can look at it as, "If they were cured, would they still do crime?" Ventriloquist definitely wouldn't, Scarface is the whole reason he does crime. Harvey varies, sometimes he has DID and sometimes he doesn't. Maxie Zeus probably wouldn't, but he's so underused that it's tough to tell. There are Jokers that wouldn't do crime if they were cured, the one in the Harley Quinn show is an example. But more generally, I prefer versions that mostly follow Jason's thoughts: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/aa6ebbbc.jpg --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/16/25 5:32:53 AM #20: |
pegusus123456 posted... Yeah, I think you can look at it as, "If they were cured, would they still do crime?" NICE --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 08/16/25 6:50:44 AM #21: |
I feel the Joker could absolutely get off on reasons of insanity if he was a real guy --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 08/16/25 6:51:45 AM #22: |
haloiscoolisbak posted... I feel the Joker could absolutely get off on reasons of insanity if he was a real guyNo jury in the world is going to let that dude off on an insanity plea. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/16/25 7:48:29 AM #23: |
haloiscoolisbak posted... I feel the Joker could absolutely get off on reasons of insanity if he was a real guy based on what the joker does not meet any definition of insane as again he clealry knows his actions are wrong and he just dont care --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 08/16/25 7:48:42 AM #24: |
I dunno, a super villian in a courtroom is completely unprecedented --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 08/16/25 7:53:57 AM #25: |
AceMos posted... based on what I've only seen Heath Ledger's version of him, but his whole agent of chaos thing to me is pretty insane. What were his motives again? It wasn't money or power in the traditional sense right? He seemed pretty delusional and out of touch with reality to me. Even if he was high functioning I guess what I'm getting at is any Marvel/DC villain, transplanted into our world would easily qualify --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 08/16/25 7:54:57 AM #26: |
haloiscoolisbak posted... I've only seen Heath Ledger's version of him, but his whole agent of chaos thing to me is pretty insane. What were his motives again? It wasn't money or power in the traditional sense right? He seemed pretty delusional and out of touch with reality to me.By your same argument, every school shooter and serial killer is not guilty by reason of insanity. Being violent for the sake of it is not insane, it's just monstrous. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 08/16/25 7:58:58 AM #27: |
pegusus123456 posted... By your same argument, every school shooter and serial killer is not guilty by reason of insanity. Their motivations can include revenge and wanting notoriety right? Heath Ledger's Joker I guess is such a... character that any actual real world version of him would be almost impossible to envision --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 08/16/25 12:03:57 PM #28: |
haloiscoolisbak posted... I've only seen Heath Ledger's version of him, but his whole agent of chaos thing to me is pretty insane. What were his motives again? It wasn't money or power in the traditional sense right? He seemed pretty delusional and out of touch with reality to me. Even if he was high functioning "Hving no motive" is not part of the crtieria for the insanity defense. The Joker has a philosophy, is capable of reasoning, long-term planning, etc. We prosecute people who "seem pretty delusional and out of touch" all the time. Look at mass shooters. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AgentCoulson 08/16/25 1:39:13 PM #29: |
Arnold Wesker, Zsasz and Harvey Dent (the versions that use Big Bad Harv) are the ones that come to mind. --- I haven't set a signature for the message boards yet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/16/25 2:04:24 PM #30: |
AgentCoulson posted... Arnold Wesker,? --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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memukus9684 08/16/25 2:22:02 PM #31: |
I don't think any of them could beyond faking it. You have to prove you don't know the difference between right and wrong in order to get the insanity plea and all of Batmans villains know the difference between right and wrong. --- It's not the wings at all. Namor has so much contempt for the surface world that he literally repels himself from it. - HouseT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 08/16/25 2:25:56 PM #32: |
AceMos posted... ?I think the ventriloquist definitely has an argument --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/16/25 2:29:30 PM #33: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted... I think the ventriloquist definitely has an argument OH thats the ventriloquists name i had forgotten --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 08/16/25 2:33:30 PM #34: |
haloiscoolisbak posted... I feel the Joker could absolutely get off on reasons of insanity if he was a real guyNot a chance. Insanity plea doesn't mean that the person is insane It means that at the moment of commiting the crime, they were insane and weren't aware that what they were doing is wrong. Joker is completely aware of what he's doing all the time. --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 08/16/25 2:40:17 PM #35: |
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Doom_Art 08/16/25 2:45:47 PM #36: |
Mr. Freeze could probably get some leniency (assuming that his freezing of people is non-lethal) once everyone realizes the circumstances behind his wife and why he does what he does. Maxie Zeus like everyone else mentioned Two-Face would absolutely get some sort of lenient treatment, if not a release he would definitely get a lighter sentence. I'm not sure how the DC legal system handles the concept of Lazarus Pit-induced madness, but probably Red Hood. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BiggWillieStylk 08/16/25 3:08:19 PM #37: |
AceMos posted... based on whatNot caring counts as insanity too. --- The Poster Formerly Known As BooBooNukem! I'm a Jesus Freak!!! Woohoo! http://www.flickr.com/photos/biggwilliestylk/ - http://www.last.fm/user/BiggWillieStylk/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 08/16/25 3:25:13 PM #38: |
I feel like I saw somewhere that Mad Hatter is legitimately mentally unwell, unlike Joker --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 08/16/25 3:30:13 PM #39: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... I feel like I saw somewhere that Mad Hatter is legitimately mentally unwell, unlike JokerI'm only familiar with the cartoon version of him, but wasn't his whole shtick that he was mad the woman he liked didn't return his feelings? Also is Harley Quinn really that good that she could fake it? I know she was a psychologist working at Arkham at first, so she probably knows what not to do, but still. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 08/16/25 3:32:05 PM #40: |
AceMos posted... based on whatDepends on who's writing. Traditionally, the character embodies insanity, though in some retellings, as you say, he is perfectly sane and just evil. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 08/16/25 3:32:40 PM #41: |
The Joker's definition of insanity is not the legal definition of "not guilty by reason of insanity" --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeremy517 08/16/25 3:38:53 PM #42: |
pegusus123456 posted... No jury in the world is going to let that dude off on an insanity plea. Successfully pleading insanity doesn't mean you just go free. It means that instead of prison, they would be confined to mental health treatment. In reality, that can often lead to longer confinement than a prison sentence would have. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amakusa 08/16/25 6:56:14 PM #43: |
AceMos posted... thoe mr freeze probably still gets sent to arkham as they have the facilities to safely hold him where as black gate would not have a cold roomMr. Freeze was actually held at Blackgate in TAS and he did have a 'cold' room. But yeah, generally the only reason he's in Arkham is because of the facilities, not because he's clinically insane. --- I will rule the world, and find that truly good cup of coffee. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain_S_Fiend 08/16/25 7:01:48 PM #44: |
mercurydude posted... VentriloquistThis was who popped into my head. He's usually portrayed as being servile to his Scarface dummy, so I'm sure the defense would use that to try and show it's pure psychosis. --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WesternMedia 08/18/25 12:01:42 AM #45: |
Yeah I've been looking at some true crime videos and it's hilarious how many criminals think acting like Joker will get them off the hook. --- Cherish me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OneSpookyGirl 08/18/25 12:04:02 AM #46: |
A select few may have viable grounds, but, realistically, none would be successful. --- Beep . . . boop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nocturnal_traveler 08/18/25 12:17:52 AM #47: |
-The Ventriloquist thinks Scarface is real, so he'd get one. -Two-Face thinks he's two people, and leaves everything up to literal chance. He also goes nuts without his coin. -Maxie Zeus thinks he's a literal god. -Mad Hatter is just an incel that was brave enough to take his anger to the next level. -I think the Riddler could get an insanity plea. He doesn't think challenging his intellect through any means necessary is wrong, and his narcissism gives him grand delusions. -What about Professor Pyg? That guy is extremely sick in the head. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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