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M1Astray
09/20/25 2:11:04 AM
#103:


TBH it's time the EU stops pussyfooting around and gives Ukraine the good stuff. Putin is living in a delusional reality where he thinks he can take the EU with the US out of the picture, it would be prudent to rectify that delusion before he either intentionally or accidentally escalates things.

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HBOSS
09/20/25 10:32:09 AM
#105:


Giving everything to Ukraine will just prolong this war & slowly bleed into other countries.

nobody wants to be involved more than being a supplier. Anything short of sending soldiers to defend & push the frontlines is eventually going to mean more resources no country could afford to do indefinitely. Even the US is going to give up the parts of the Ukraine for stopping this war. So its safe to say the EU will do the same and carve up the Ukraine to appease the Russian war machine.

Itll buy the Ukraine & EU a few years until Russia starts advancing into more land and its resources. Russia wants Ukraine in its entirety maybe other ussr countries, like 15 total. Ukraine is the first important piece.

EU needs to go full war mode boots to ground if they want to keep the sovereignty of the Ukraine. Unfortunately its going to cost Ukraine its land & resources to make that committment for that war effort

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SgtBash
09/20/25 10:45:20 AM
#106:


It's just Ukraine, not the Ukraine

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ROBBAN
09/20/25 11:05:29 AM
#107:


HBOSS posted...
Even the US is going to give up the parts of the Ukraine for stopping this war. So its safe to say the EU will do the same and carve up the Ukraine to appease the Russian war machine.

considering that the US is currently ruled by Putins footstool, it's not really "EVEN the US"
it's primarily the US that wanna give up

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Thompson
09/20/25 3:20:20 PM
#108:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c6f4cf39.png

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Zikten
09/20/25 5:04:34 PM
#109:


I still believe this will never stop until Russia gets counter invaded and is forced to stop. All of Europe should team up and send a massive army to march on Moscow

And Putin has to go the Hague
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ROBBAN
09/20/25 5:13:04 PM
#110:


it would be so funny if they shot down a russian jet and then just copied their playbook
"what, no, we never shot down anything, they just fell from the sky. wierd how it just did that..."

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Foppe
09/21/25 2:26:27 AM
#111:


Payback for the Catalina affair.

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Trelve
09/23/25 4:03:42 PM
#112:


Donald Trump has just signalled what appears to be a major shift in his position on the Ukraine war - and what might happen if and when the fighting ends. Posting on his Truth Social platform, he says: "I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form."
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EPR-radar
09/23/25 4:17:36 PM
#113:


LOL at this from Trump meaning anything real.

All it means is that President Pudding-brains has forgotten his latest instructions from Putin. He'll soon be put back on track by one of his minders that actually works for Putin.

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-Crissaegrim-
09/23/25 4:34:56 PM
#114:


ROBBAN posted...
it would be so funny if they shot down a russian jet and then just copied their playbook
"what, no, we never shot down anything, they just fell from the sky. wierd how it just did that..."

"Maybe it fell out of a window."

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Lillymon
09/23/25 5:03:21 PM
#115:


Trump just parrots the last thing he heard as if it's the gospel truth. Someone told him Ukraine can win so he's repeating that. Tomorrow someone will tell him Ukraine can't win and he'll repeat that instead.

He has no actual position on Ukraine and since he's been appointed de facto Dictator of the United States that means the United States has no position either. That leaves Ukraine and everyone else in an agonizing limbo for the next three years.

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Foppe
09/24/25 2:42:03 AM
#116:


I wonder if it only happened because Trump heard that the Rapture would happen, and he believed that it would give him more good karma if he decided to help Ukraine.

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Foppe
09/24/25 11:17:05 PM
#117:


Swarm of drones over four Danish airports, one being military.
Russia is the biggest suspect.

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YellowSUV
09/25/25 12:02:06 AM
#118:


Foppe posted...
Swarm of drones over four Danish airports, one being military.
Russia is the biggest suspect.

Some people are theorizing that Russia is trying to get into a low level conflict with NATO and Russia swiftly surrenders (and consequently withdraws from Ukraine). The "logic" behind this is that people in Russia will be more forgiving to losing to NATO than simply just losing to Ukraine. My guess is this idea is bullshit, but it is interesting.

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Jordan_AS
09/25/25 12:08:05 AM
#119:


I think it's more likely they're trying to bait NAO into attacking them so they can justify a full scale mobilization. I don't see that ending well, but I don't see anything else ending well for them either.

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Sir_Will
09/25/25 12:19:28 AM
#120:


I guess shooting them risks debris but they can't keep letting Russia do this.

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ROBBAN
09/25/25 2:22:44 AM
#121:


YellowSUV posted...
Some people are theorizing that Russia is trying to get into a low level conflict with NATO and Russia swiftly surrenders (and consequently withdraws from Ukraine). The "logic" behind this is that people in Russia will be more forgiving to losing to NATO than simply just losing to Ukraine. My guess is this idea is bullshit, but it is interesting.

Putin has said several times they're already at war with NATO, though

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YellowSUV
09/25/25 2:53:20 PM
#123:


NATO would whoop Russia's ass even with the US on the sidelines. Russia can barely even occupy about 20% of Ukraine. There is no way they have the resources to open a second front against Poland, Latvia, Finland, or any other NATO country bordering them.

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name_unknown
09/25/25 3:27:45 PM
#124:


Russia looking to see what they can get away with

Russian warplanes detected flying near Alaska for ninth time this year
U.S. fighter jets scrambled to identify and intercept four Russian warplanes flying near Alaska, the North American Aerospace Defense Command said Thursday.

Its the third time in about a month and the ninth time this year NORAD has reported such an incident involving Russian aircraft flying near Alaska. This latest incident happened Wednesday.
NORAD said in a statement issued early Thursday that it detected and tracked two Tu-95s and two Su-35s operating in the Alaskan Air Defense Identification Zone.

The incident comes after President Donald Trump said Tuesday he believed Ukraine could win back all territory lost to Russia, a dramatic shift from the Republicans repeated calls for Kyiv to make concessions to end Russias war in Ukraine.

NATO warned Russia on Tuesday it would use all means to defend against any further breaches of its airspace after the downing this month of Russian drones over Poland and Estonias report of an intrusion by Russian fighter jets last week.

Trump on Tuesday said NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they enter their airspace. Asked if the U.S. would back up NATO allies in such a situation, Trump said it depends on the circumstance.

Following a summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska last month, Trump said he was arranging for direct talks between Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. But Putin has shown no interest in meeting with Zelenskyy, and Moscow has only intensified its bombardment of Ukraine.

Nine U.S. aircraft an E-3 Sentry command and control aircraft, four F-16s and four KC-135 tankers scrambled to positively identify and intercept the Russian jets, NORAD said.
The Russian aircraft remained in international airspace and did not enter American or Canadian sovereign airspace, it said. Such Russian activity near Alaska occurs regularly and is not seen as a threat, it added in its statement.
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HBOSS
09/25/25 3:40:12 PM
#125:


Russia playing airspace plinko with EU and US.

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Tyranthraxus
09/25/25 6:27:37 PM
#126:


Trump has a bizarre 180 on Ukraine

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3878742a.jpg

This dude literally went from "Putin has all the cards" to "Ukraine can probably take everything back plus extra"

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EPR-radar
09/25/25 6:30:32 PM
#127:


Someone put all of this into Trump's empty head, assuming this face turn is even real.

For starters, that post doesn't look like the usual shit from the Orange Menace.

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Sir_Will
09/25/25 7:58:44 PM
#128:


He'll probably flip back next time he talks to Putin. Just needs a cooling off period.

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Zikten
09/26/25 1:21:06 AM
#129:


if we got go war with Russia, we should gift all Russian territory to Ukraine afterwards.
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ROBBAN
09/27/25 3:56:21 AM
#130:


The partial suspension on Belarus and Russia for the Paralympics has been lifted
They will now be allowed to compete under their own flags as normal

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Sir_Will
09/27/25 11:10:47 AM
#131:


ROBBAN posted...
The partial suspension on Belarus and Russia for the Paralympics has been lifted
They will now be allowed to compete under their own flags as normal
Such BS.

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LightSnake
09/27/25 11:18:58 AM
#132:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


We're past the point when we really need to throw a drone at the Kremlin. Time to decapitate.

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havean776
09/27/25 10:10:46 PM
#133:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/27/putin-preparing-to-attack-another-european-country-zelenskyy-says

Putin preparing to attack another European country, Zelenskyy says.

We will see if this is true. One thing is sure, apeasement with Russia does not work.

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Starks
09/29/25 1:14:49 AM
#134:


https://www.reuters.com/world/vance-says-us-considering-tomahawk-missiles-ukraine-2025-09-28/

Spicy

havean776 posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/27/putin-preparing-to-attack-another-european-country-zelenskyy-says

Putin preparing to attack another European country, Zelenskyy says.

We will see if this is true. One thing is sure, apeasement with Russia does not work.
Moldova just rejected pro-Russian parties. Maybe Putin will try something in Transnistria too.

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Thompson
09/29/25 2:42:34 AM
#135:


Starks posted...
Moldova just rejected pro-Russian parties. Maybe Putin will try something in Transnistria too.
Not sure what Putin could realistically do.
Transnistria is an incredibnly narrow bit of landlocked terrtitory between Moldova and Ukraine, with a thousand or so soldiers with decrepit gear. Those soldiers can do some bad stuff if they enter Moldova, whose army is even smaller and with even worse gear, and become a single day loss statistic if they enter Ukraine. Moldova would likely invite Ukraine and Romania to take care of the Trasnistrian troops if they crossed into Moldova. Russia cannot help because their planes will be shot down if they try to fly across Ukraine, and taking a detour through Romania is basically playing with the fire that's named Article 5.
However, Putin has not played his cards well, so maybe he will believe having 2 diamonds means a five-card flush is guaranteed?

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ROBBAN
09/29/25 4:21:42 AM
#136:


Starks posted...
Moldova just rejected pro-Russian parties.
Finally a win

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ROBBAN
09/29/25 12:10:27 PM
#137:


drone hit a russian helicopter in flight
https://xcancel.com/Archer83Able/status/1972627902899626353?t=8NT_HlfrAPvjYXvXcQqzXw&s=19

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Trelve
09/29/25 1:29:33 PM
#138:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly6r1mg34yo

The US is considering a request by Ukraine for long-range Tomahawk missiles, US Vice-President JD Vance has said. However, Vance added President Donald Trump would be making "the final determination" on the matter.
Kyiv has long been calling for its Western partners to provide it with weapons that could hit major Russian cities far from the front line, arguing that they would help Ukraine seriously weaken Russia's military industry and bring the war to an end.

While Vance remained ambivalent about Ukraine's request for Tomahawks in his remarks on Sunday, the US special envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, seemed to suggest Trump had already authorised strikes deep into Russian territory.
Asked on Fox News whether Washington had allowed Kyiv to carry out long-range strikes within Russia in specific instances, Kellogg said: "The answer is yes, use the ability to hit deep, there are no such things as sanctuaries."
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Starks
09/29/25 1:41:14 PM
#139:


Give Ukraine a bunch of Typhon launchers and keep them a little snug from the front lines. They'll still hit fair targets in Moscow.

And then if the rumors of JLTVs are true... Put those everywhere and keep them extremely mobile.

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ROBBAN
09/29/25 3:08:48 PM
#140:


Ukrainian language BBC just posted a quote

"General Havrylyuk reported that additional deliveries of F-16 aircraft, as well as French Mirage and Swedish Gripen, are "expected.""

https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c3w53146zvdo

"Expected" is not the same as "Confirmed", but i really wanna see a Gripen kick some Russian ass

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Thompson
10/01/25 5:27:21 AM
#141:


Russia is preparing to begin importing gasoline due to a fuel shortage caused by a series of Ukrainian drone strikes on the countrys oil refineries, The Moscow Times reported on September 30.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-prepares-to-import-gasoline-as-drone-strikes-deepen-nationwide-fuel-shortage-12094

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Trumble
10/01/25 7:17:30 AM
#142:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Trump has a bizarre 180 on Ukraine

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3878742a.jpg

This dude literally went from "Putin has all the cards" to "Ukraine can probably take everything back plus extra"
Trump has quite the history of flip-flopping on the Russia/Ukraine matter. I'm honestly starting to suspect he just sides with whoever he's most recently talked to.

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