Current Events > Detail on older games you didn't notice for a long time?

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Nothing ground breaking for me, but rewatching some Donkey Kong 64 playthroughs every so often, I finally picked up on how stage boss music is an alternate version of the stage music.

It took me the longest time to realize that when Sheik did her disappearing act in OoT, what she was actually doing was throwing down a deku nut to stun you, at which point she could just walk away leisurely.

The Ballad of the Goddess in Skyward Sword is Zeldas Lullaby/Theme backwards. I didnt realize this until I started the hd remaster on switch a few days ago

I never noticed as a kid that the music in Super Mario World changed when you got on Yoshi. Its one of those things that I cannot understand how exactly I didnt notice it.

The_Popo posted...

I never noticed as a kid that the music in Super Mario World changed when you got on Yoshi. Its one of those things that I cannot understand how exactly I didnt notice it.

And now you can't unnotice it. The little tap tippy tap that gets added to all the music.
Gen 4 Pokemon does this, too, it adds a drum eat when you're walking.

The Reaver in Starcraft propels itself by reaching the front claw (not a mouth/mustache) out into the ground then pulling itself forward.

UnicornWizard posted...

The Ballad of the Goddess in Skyward Sword is Zeldas Lullaby/Theme backwards. I didnt realize this until I started the hd remaster on switch a few days ago

In hindsight, shouldnt they have saved the backwards Zelda theme and made it Hildas theme in Link Between Worlds?

Took me way longer than it should have to realize that a lot of the things in Brave Fencer Musashi are food puns. Allucaneet Kingdom, Thirstquencher Empire, Princess Fillet, Grillin Village, etc. All went over my head as a kid lol

Olimar and Louie are name retaled with Mario and Luigi.

Antiyonder posted...

Nothing ground breaking for me, but rewatching some Donkey Kong 64 playthroughs every so often, I finally picked up on how stage boss music is an alternate version of the stage music.

Banjo-Tooie does this as well

Linze posted...

Olimar and Louie are name retaled with Mario and Luigi.

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Well, I'm a fucking moron.

That Megaman X5 was meant to be the final game in the series, so it was loaded with callbacks.

-Intro cinematic had illustrations of battles from the last four games (though with the poor image quality, limited color palette, and how they all flashed by in about two seconds, it was impossible to take in any details).

-One fortress stage had you platform across appearing and disappearing platforms, like in classic MM.

-First fortress stage had you dealing with instakill lasers, like in Quick Man's stage.

-First fortress boss was Rangda Bangda, reused from X1.

-Second fortress boss was a Devil goo monster, not seen since classic MM.

-First Sigma battle starts with him throwing off his cape like in X1, and he leaps across the walls in a similar manner.

-Second Sigma had these floating hands you could jump on, and his weakness was a weapon that took the form of a sphere.

-It's probably why the final battle has X and Zero's capsules in the background.

Mario punches Yoshi to make him eat things

The Game Over text in Breath of the Wild changes to blue if you died from ice/cold/drowning, and yellow if you died from a lightning strike or electricity.

...8 years counts as older, right?! >_>

It also took me several years to find out about the stamina restoring music codec codes and alert call off codes in MGS3.

In the Marvel vs. Capcom games X-Men characters usually do a pose with their arms in the shape of an X when they do their super moves.

In mario 64 after you beat King Bob-omb, theres an extra cannon ball rolling around in the pit, presumably his body

ChocoboMogALT posted...

And now you can't unnotice it. The little tap tippy tap that gets added to all the music.
Gen 4 Pokemon does this, too, it adds a drum eat when you're walking.

Gen 4 does this? I know some of the gen 5 music has this but I don't ever recall seeing it in gen 4

Seaman_Prime posted...

In mario 64 after you beat King Bob-omb, theres an extra cannon ball rolling around in the pit, presumably his body

And the very first time you play Jolly Roger Bay on a new save file, it's foggy and overcast, but grabbing the first star permanently clears the fog and sky, even if you go back and replay the first mission.

MegamanXfan21xx posted...

And the very first time you play Jolly Roger Bay on a new save file, it's foggy and overcast, but grabbing the first star permanently clears the fog and sky, even if you go back and replay the first mission.

Now I'm wondering whether the fog clears if you get the 100 coin star before the first mission star

King_Rial posted...

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Well, I'm a fucking moron.

Don't feel bad. It was maybe a year ago when I saw that Ekans = Snake and Arbok = K(c)obra. Didn't notice it myself, mind you, just saw it mentioned somewhere.

Oh, I can't remember specific examples off the top of my head, but there's definitely been cases where I thought a sprite in older games (especially NES) was supposed to be one thing, and then upon seeing artwork, or hearing someone else refer to it as being something else, I'll be like, "Wait, that's what that is?"

I guess it's old enough now to count; the sprites are ST, but I discovered this very late in the HD Remix community's lifespan, and otherwise have not seen it applied.

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Emperor Gestahl is a man with a big mustache/beard and not a dog man.

It took roughly 7 years or so after it came out, but I was humming the Black Mage Village music one day and noticed that I was going through the same notes I do when humming Vivi's theme. Black Mage Village is a remix of Vivi's Theme. And I felt so stupid for not realizing sooner. When you hear them back to back, it's plain as day.

I was watching a YouTube video of someone the streams GoldenEye and Perfect Dark, and he was teaching this other guy how in Perfect Dark if you hold down Z to fire a gun, and keep Z held down, then "A" will also fire the gun, letting you rapid-fire semi-automatics much easier.

In original final fantasy 7 there was these 2 NPC ladies in shinra HQ where the stealth minigame is at that has really screwed up field models by accident. Its hard to notice since the camera is zoomed out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJ8AYMDpUk

I didn't even know this was a thing until I watched this video right here.

My favorite that I've posted a million times: you can snoop on Seifer's PC in FFVIII to find out he's a fan of a certain movie called the Sorceress' Knight starring one Laguna Loire. Laguna if you recall didn't know how to use a Gunblade when filming the movie. Seifer's Gunblade stance and his chuunibuyou dream of becoming a Sorceress' Knight stem from this movie.

Unrelated; Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec is an anagram for Succession of Witches Love which references how power is past to Sorceresses in the game.

Lastly, people shit on the plot twist, but NPCs and your PC in the beginning explain GF controversy and more to the point Cid was likely pulling strings to get those specific orphanage SeeD to go on missions together

Regarding FFVIII, another thing I never noticed until it was pointed out to me was that when you confront Ultimecia, she looks at the entire party and says "SeeD!" 6 times. This is the exact number of people in your full party, but only 4 of them are actually SeeDs. This means that to Ultimecia, it doesn't matter what your rank is. If you oppose her, you're still a SeeD.

Mad-Dogg posted...

In original final fantasy 7 there was these 2 NPC ladies in shinra HQ where the stealth minigame is at that has really screwed up field models by accident. Its hard to notice since the camera is zoomed out.

I demand fanart of how those two NPC ladies are supposed to look. That's a cool look.

Didn't pick up on this myself, I definitely got it from a forum, but in Mortal Kombat Deception's campaign mode as you go through Chaosrealm sometimes NPCs will run up to you and say "Devieced gnieb era uoy!" which is "You are being deceived!" backwards.

rick_alverado posted...

It took me the longest time to realize that when Sheik did her disappearing act in OoT, what she was actually doing was throwing down a deku nut to stun you, at which point she could just walk away leisurely.

Wait, what?

Super Mario 64: was playing this with my daughter recently, and I was flabbergasted when I did a belly slide near the baby penguin and it mimics Mario by doing its own belly slide. Cute!

In FF7 I didn't stumble upon the Cursed Ring in Mideel until I was about six playthroughs in. At that time I was still way deep in my delusions that there had to be some secret way to revive Aeris (I blame SotN for putting it in my head that all games should have a massive payoff to following an esoteric breadcrumb trail on-par with the Reverse Castle), and this felt like the biggest FF7 secret I'd ever personally stumbled across.

Speaking of OG FF7, you probably already know that all party members have a unique reaction / animation to Aeris' death right after the Jenova fight, based on who's in your active party at the time. I'd probably gotten a dozen playthroughs under my belt before I decided to have Yuffie in the party. That sequence has always made me tear up a little, but seeing Yuffie's reaction for the first time was the closest I ever came to flat-out bawling.

In Chrono Trigger when the party gets imprisoned on the Blackbird, all party members have unique dialogue reaction to finding out their supplies have been taken; on my first playthough I remember finding Frog's reaction particularly funny ("Confound it! The money too!"), and for the longest time I couldn't figure out how to re-trigger it. Turns out whoever's the party leader will comment last on the missing money (can't remember which slot comments on the consumables and which slot comments on weapons / armor).

In Tales Of Vesperia Duke has a unique cutscene/dialogue before his fight depending on which party member you're controlling in battle. Yes, even the dog.

In FFVIII when Balamb Garden takes flight for the first time, you'll get an extended FMV featuring Rinoa if you put her in the Balamb-bound party.

Letsago posted...

Now I'm wondering whether the fog clears if you get the 100 coin star before the first mission star

You can't because 3 of the red coins are over the water where the ship would be and you can't reach them until you raise the ship, and you can't exit the ship once inside.

It took me several playthrough to discover the "Power of the Boos."

At the time, the Internet was well in swing, but there was -almost- no info on this one particular thing, so it was really bizarre that nobody seemed to know anything about it and I had never even seen it before even though I had already played through the game multiple times at that point.

When I approached the balcony to go fight Boolossus, a boo appeared in front of the door, calling itself "the Power of the Boos." It taunted me for a few lines of dialog and then teleported me back to the Foyer. It did this several times in a row, which is why I went to Google.

I did eventually find it, after some serious digging. Turns out, this happens if you haven't captured enough Boos at that point. Makes sense in hindsight. You reduce their "power" as you capture more of them. I just always made a point of going and clearing them all out on my previous runs.

Skirts and dresses don't exist in Dishonored, everyone wears pants.

You can use both the flamethrower and Flame Rounds to set the oil on fire in the lab in RE2.

It took me way longer than it shouldve to recognize areas in Awakening Wood from Forest of Hope from the previous game.

I remember I immediately recognized parts of the Distant Spring in Perplexing Pool, and areas from The Impact Site and The Final Trial in the Wistful Wilds first time I played it though.

There are hands in the Hadoken

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I thought the arm was a wing as a kid.

MegamanXfan21xx posted...

And the very first time you play Jolly Roger Bay on a new save file, it's foggy and overcast, but grabbing the first star permanently clears the fog and sky, even if you go back and replay the first mission.

Ironically that also slightly increases game performance in that area. Jolly Roger Bay slows the N64 down to a crawl.

Ocarina of Time + Super Mario 64 + Mario Kart 64 - the credits music is timed with the N64's slowdown/performance issues. On emulators, the visuals outrun the music by 15-20 seconds (if not more).

Super Mario World uses variations of the same song for all the level types.

The final boss music in paper mario 64 is different between NA and JP

NA
https://youtu.be/KrO3hfyfBds?si=pIwYV-xwbdPMhi3u

JP
https://youtu.be/foR4m3PnOQc?si=ygA2DZ11nMM0RBVX

The JP has sonar pings in the background and a different backing instrument.