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saspa 09/07/25 1:46:21 PM #1: |
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7qubYHhlW-E?feature=share I am really deeply saddened by the lack of success that marvels received purely for her sake because she's an utterly fantastic casting. Hilarious, endearing and relatable, I really really wish to know why seemingly worldwide audiences didn't respond to her going by the low viewership and box office gross --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 09/07/25 2:14:23 PM #2: |
Kamala and Bruno were really good together. Not having Bruno in the movie was a huge mistake. Casting doesnt occur in a vacuum; its all about the chemistry. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 09/07/25 2:14:46 PM #3: |
It was mainly racism. The show was a very good way of handling a character's origin story even though it deviated from the source. The deviation was understandable as The Inhumans did poorly and they probably didn't want to continue down that angle. People were complaining that she was a POC despite the fact that her source material has her as a POC. They saw a mosque for like 2 seconds in the trailer and were like "stop forcing woke on us." A small number of people were upset at the change to the origin of her powers but that seemed to be a very small minority of the complaints. Now, The Marvels I could understand people disliking except again the main complaint was that the movie was pushing a woke agenda by having an all female lead cast and 2 of them were POCs. Nevermind the fact the movie did nothing to explain why Captain Marvel was inexplicably missing from Infinity War not did it do a good job of highlighting just how powerful she is in the MCU. There was plenty to critique the movie over but almost all of the negative reviews seemed to be originating from the incel thought train of the manosphere. --- This post generated by AI slop ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 09/07/25 2:26:31 PM #4: |
Nota214 posted... It was mainly racism. The show was a very good way of handling a character's origin story even though it deviated from the source. The deviation was understandable as The Inhumans did poorly and they probably didn't want to continue down that angle.When it came out, people here joked "Feige hates The Inhumans so much he made this girl a Djinn." ^_^ People were complaining that she was a POC despite the fact that her source material has her as a POC. They saw a mosque for like 2 seconds in the trailer and were like "stop forcing woke on us."Idiots. Nevermind the fact the movie did nothing to explain why Captain Marvel was inexplicably missing from Infinity WarWhy would it explain why she was missing from IW? It took place long after. Besides, she already explained why she wasn't there, in Endgame: "There are a lot of other planets in the universe. And unfortunately, they didn't have you guys." --- I am the infinite stairwell between integers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 09/07/25 2:52:44 PM #5: |
it's pretty obvious why Marvels bombed. It had no hook. Binary was a nothing burger of a character, Kamala is from the lowest viewed MCU show and most people are indifferent at best to Captain Marvel. Throw in a pathetic villain and it's an easy skip. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 09/07/25 2:56:50 PM #6: |
saspa posted... I really really wish to know why seemingly worldwide audiences didn't respond to her going by the low viewership and box office gross
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Zikten 09/07/25 3:40:06 PM #7: |
Nota214 posted... It was mainly racism. The show was a very good way of handling a character's origin story even though it deviated from the source. The deviation was understandable as The Inhumans did poorly and they probably didn't want to continue down that angle.I'm convinced 90% of the complainers didn't even know anything about the character. Anyway, I think she was perfectly cast. She is just like her comic character. And apparently she is a huge marvel fan, even before she got the role The only thing I don't like is the different powers. That still bugs me. I think they did it because they didn't want her to show off Reed Richards powers before he debuted. But then they should have made Fantastic Four before Ms Marvel Sigh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 09/07/25 3:53:42 PM #8: |
Zikten posted... I'm convinced 90% of the complainers didn't even know anything about the character.Not to mention Kamala never really used her powers the same way as Reed. She would, like, make a super-big fist to punch someone, or change size. It was never primarily about being stretchy. --- I am the infinite stairwell between integers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 09/07/25 5:59:47 PM #9: |
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... Why would it explain why she was missing from IW? It took place long after. Besides, she already explained why she wasn't there, in Endgame: "There are a lot of other planets in the universe. And unfortunately, they didn't have you guys."I'm not saying the movie had to be about her missing from IW. Just give some background information as to why she wasn't there. From her dialogue in Endgame, she was clearly informed enough to know about Thanos being an existential threat to the universe but for whatever reason, decided not to show up until after shit hit the fan. If she wasn't dealing with some other existential threat, then it didn't really make sense to have her show up in Endgame either. --- This post generated by AI slop ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 09/07/25 6:07:07 PM #10: |
Nota214 posted... If she wasn't dealing with some other existential threat, then it didn't really make sense to have her show up in Endgame either.She shows up too late in IW because the whole thing went down in, like, a day and a half, with the bigger stuff taking like an hour, and the parts that tied directly into Earth were presumably overshadowed by all the shit going down out in space, like how Thanos may or may not have killed off Nowhere. She didn't get any info from Earth until the stinger, she grabs Tony/Nebula first thing in Endgame, gets to Earth, and then the time skip shows that she's still in regular communication. It makes sense that she'd have a better shot of being on time the second go-around, since the guy who called her the first time did it just in time to get dust-censored, that's kind of a last-minute invitation. I'm super behind the times so I could be contradicted by later stuff, but it at least felt like she basically hadn't been back since the 90's. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 09/07/25 6:09:21 PM #11: |
Nota214 posted... I'm not saying the movie had to be about her missing from IW. Just give some background information as to why she wasn't there. From her dialogue in Endgame, she was clearly informed enough to know about Thanos being an existential threat to the universe but for whatever reason, decided not to show up until after shit hit the fan. If she wasn't dealing with some other existential threat, then it didn't really make sense to have her show up in Endgame either.What dialogue made you think she was "clearly informed" about Thanos? I'm genuinely asking. --- I am the infinite stairwell between integers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KogaSteelfang 09/07/25 6:16:32 PM #12: |
She really does bring an energetic charm that wasn't present before. Very refreshing and fun to see her, imo. While her show and the marvels weren't that great, she was definitely the highlight of both. --- My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@steelfang8806 My Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/steelfangkoga ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link_of_time 09/07/25 6:31:37 PM #14: |
TMOG posted... * Show was designed to appeal more to teens than adults, which put older audiences offThat's really it. Defenders lull themselves into thinking only incels hated it, but the show was targeted at different audience. Kamala is completely unknown to the casual, and fans just weren't too interested anything post endgame. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 09/07/25 6:42:05 PM #15: |
The issue with the Ms Marvel series was pacing and some of the worst villains in the history of the MCU. The first several episodes were very solid. It did a good job of establishing Kamala, her friends, family and the Jersey setting. The casting was good. The set up solid...and then they pivoted into the Pakistan arc, taking her away from most the cast and the setting they had spent several episodes establishing. All so it could double down on the weakest part of the series, the Djinn and their conflict with Kamala. It absolutely kneecapped the series and never quite recovered. Obviously, that wasn't the only issue. The Djinn were a major weakness of the series, regardless of where they were being dealt with, but removing the best parts of the series just made them stand out even more. I don't think taking a trip to Pakistan was an inherently bad idea, but it was season 2 material. Where your main character and surrounding cast are now established enough that a setting change adds new variety. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 09/07/25 6:54:50 PM #16: |
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... What dialogue made you think she was "clearly informed" about Thanos? I'm genuinely asking.It's more the lack of dialogue. She didn't ask anything about Thanos specifically and seemed to already know who he is. Now, this could be explained easily enough given that she probably learned about Thanos while she was out traveling the universe, especially given the connection between Thanos and the Kree. At the same time though, she didn't really ask about the infinity stones either nor bothered to gather information from the surviving Avengers. The only new piece of information she didn't seem to know about was Fury being gone and where Thanos currently was. Given that Fury's page was what called her back to Earth and she already seemed to be up to speed on what needed to be done, it's easy enough to deduce that she had knowledge of the kind of threat Thanos was. By this point, she already knew about the Avengers, Thanos, and the infinity stones. Again, she could have learned about Thanos and maybe even the infinity stones while traveling the universe but the fact that she even knew about the Avengers suggests she was in communication with Earth. When she was asked about where she was during the battle on Earth for Vision, her response was that other planets needed her and that she prioritized them because they don't have a team like the Avengers. I would say that line is the biggest implication that she was already aware of the events prior to the snap. That line, in conjunction with the information she seemed to already be aware of, gives the impression that she was dealing with another potential cosmic threat to the universe and that she didn't feel the need to rush back to Earth to stop Thanos because Earth had the Avengers. --- This post generated by AI slop ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thekosmicfool 09/07/25 7:01:31 PM #17: |
I liked the Marvels. It wasn't top tier MCU but what is these days? And yes Iman Vellani is an adorable treasure. --- Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost "Who put these bodies between us?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MotaroRIP619 09/07/25 7:05:50 PM #18: |
I had a lot of fun watching the show, and the movie as well. I was going through a lot of stuff when I was watching all that and the Marvels was probably the most fun movie I saw Marvel put out in a hot minute besides Iron Fist. I think Disney has just over saturated the market with Marvel and Star Wars and people are sick of it. And theres also the perception of it by a good (and shitty) part of America that its woke or whatever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rick_alverado 09/07/25 7:18:35 PM #19: |
Nota214 posted... It's more the lack of dialogue. She didn't ask anything about Thanos specifically and seemed to already know who he is. Now, this could be explained easily enough given that she probably learned about Thanos while she was out traveling the universe, especially given the connection between Thanos and the Kree. At the same time though, she didn't really ask about the infinity stones either nor bothered to gather information from the surviving Avengers. The only new piece of information she didn't seem to know about was Fury being gone and where Thanos currently was. The implication to me isn't that she knew what was happening on Earth, but the exact opposite. She knew Earth had protectors, so she didn't have to pay it as much attention, and thus didn't know that something big was going down until she got the page. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 09/07/25 7:54:32 PM #20: |
Nota214 posted... When she was asked about where she was during the battle on Earth for Vision, her response was that other planets needed her and that she prioritized them because they don't have a team like the Avengers.It's a fair interpretation, but: rick_alverado posted... The implication to me isn't that she knew what was happening on Earth, but the exact opposite. She knew Earth had protectors, so she didn't have to pay it as much attention, and thus didn't know that something big was going down until she got the page.I agree with this, it strikes me more as a "there were a lot of fires and not very many firefighters" sort of thing. She wasn't paying super-close attention to Earth because she knew that if she was needed, she'd get the call from Fury, and he's a damn capable dude so things are pretty well in hand. Then the call comes sometime either immediately before or immediately after the Snap, which isn't really a lot of time for anyone. The Stones are gonna be something she already knows about, both from personal history and what she does for a living. They're not full-on common knowledge but clearly the bigger powers out in space know about them. And Thanos is damn near a household name out there, look at GotG 1. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saspa 09/12/25 7:54:34 AM #21: |
TMOG posted...
Yeah about that, maybe someone could argue for her comic book powers if they're familiar with them? Because when I skimmed what I could, it just seemed like meh stretchy powers which I've never really liked. I thought the TV show doing star power was actually better. But this also reminds me of the whole spiderman organic web vs web shooters argument from the early 2000s, except regarding a much less popular and well known character. --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 09/12/25 8:20:20 AM #22: |
Zikten posted... I'm convinced 90% of the complainers didn't even know anything about the character.90% of the complainers couldnt answer basic questions about the show they were complaining about when the show came out. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DB_Insider 09/12/25 8:23:34 AM #23: |
Sariana21 posted... Kamala and Bruno were really good together. Not having Bruno in the movie was a huge mistake. Casting doesnt occur in a vacuum; its all about the chemistry.Bruno could be cast as the next spiderman --- :D ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/12/25 8:38:36 AM #24: |
I'd say it's a combination of racism, Disney+ releases alienating general audiences when it comes to new characters, the show being marketed towards younger viewers and residual hate/backlash from Captain Marvel But I agree, Iman was perfect for the role and I hope she gets more work in the MCU --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 09/12/25 10:09:49 AM #25: |
DB_Insider posted... Bruno could be cast as the next spidermanIs this an actual rumor or your opinion of the actor/character? --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DB_Insider 09/12/25 8:15:42 PM #26: |
Sariana21 posted... Is this an actual rumor or your opinion of the actor/character?Just my opinion --- :D ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 09/12/25 8:20:05 PM #27: |
...she should have been stretchy... --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pikachuchupika 09/12/25 8:23:42 PM #28: |
Kamala is going to be great as part of the Young Avengers. I think she would be pretty integral actually. Very good actress who plays her. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 09/13/25 2:40:25 PM #29: |
divot1338 posted... 90% of the complainers couldnt answer basic questions about the show they were complaining about when the show came out.This is pretty common of a lot of MCU shows/movies. I had a discussion last Christmas with my friend where he was talking about how much the She-Hulk show sucks, I asked if he's seen it, he said no. I asked how he could have an opinion on something he hasn't seen and said "she spends the whole show twerking" because that's what some YouTuber told him. I explained that it was one post-credits scene at the end of the episode and he's been lied to, but he still doesn't want to watch it because he's been indoctrinated so badly. --- Check out my daily Pokemon drawings https://bsky.app/profile/runomai.bsky.social ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thekosmicfool 09/13/25 3:29:29 PM #30: |
You'd think that 10 seconds of twerking by She-Hulk caused an earthquake that killed their mothers or something --- Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost "Who put these bodies between us?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cartoon_Quoter 09/13/25 3:46:02 PM #31: |
Pikachuchupika posted... Kamala is going to be great as part of the Young Avengers. I think she would be pretty integral actually. Very good actress who plays her. The scene with her and Kate has me as hyped as anything since IW. Stop dragging this out, Kevin! --- I apologize for nothing! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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