Current Events > What is the deal with this random stabbing in north carolina?

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el_cheato
09/10/25 12:34:50 PM
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Sometimes I lurk r/conservative because I'm a masochist and I like to know what conservatives are talking about and for the past week almost it's been pretty much nothing but articles about this woman who go stabbed on the train in north carolina. It's the biggest news story for conservatives in years, and I just don't get it. Yes it's tragic but dozens of murders happen every day. Neither the perpetrator nor victim were public figures, I can't even think of their names off the top of my head.

I know the obvious answer is that it's being astroturfed by bots, heritage foundation, tenet media/russia et. al. but like. Why?

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Murphiroth
09/10/25 12:38:05 PM
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Blonde white woman.
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BlueAnnihilator
09/10/25 12:39:01 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Blonde white woman.
This. Just like that Gabby Petito shit from a few yrs back.
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A_Good_Boy
09/10/25 12:41:38 PM
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Cause it was completely random and extremely violent, and it's on video. Plus it ticks all the boxes conservatives care about.

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emblem-man
09/10/25 12:43:49 PM
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There's video and considering the perpetrator is someone who has been arrested multiple times prior for other offenses, it brings up the idea that we are too soft on criminals that are arrested and it's being used to show Dems as being soft on crime.

el_cheato posted...
Yes it's tragic but dozens of murders happen every day

We probably shouldn't go down this talking point because it does ultimate minimize the fear and situation. The talking point from Dems should probably be that we should look into why someone with violent tendencies had been released so often rather than sounding overly defensive.


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Ar0ge
09/10/25 12:46:36 PM
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It's a white woman killed by a black man.

Perfect scenario for the right to continue spewing more racist bull shit.
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winstonthewhite
09/10/25 12:46:51 PM
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There's probably another random murder that happens all the time that left leaning people would have made a big deal about for political reasons too. It's a shame this woman's brutal unnecessary murder is being turned into some political tribal war BS as usual

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Pikachuchupika
09/10/25 12:48:22 PM
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Because there's a video of it showing all of its gruesome nature in like a liveleak vibe.
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el_cheato
09/10/25 12:48:32 PM
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emblem-man posted...
We probably shouldn't go down this talking point because it does ultimate minimize the fear and situation. The talking point from Dems should probably be that we should look into why someone with violent tendencies had been released so often rather than sounding overly defensive.
My point isn't that there's nothing to do or learn about this, my point is that this isn't worth a week worth of front page headlines and the significance of it is being massively overblown.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
09/10/25 12:50:03 PM
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Ar0ge posted...
It's a white woman killed by a black man.

Perfect scenario for the right to continue spewing more racist bull shit.


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A_Good_Boy
09/10/25 12:51:00 PM
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el_cheato posted...
My point isn't that there's nothing to do or learn about this, my point is that this isn't worth a week worth of front page headlines and the significance of it is being massively overblown.
Questioning the significance of any particular crime is a rabbit hole you don't want to get anywhere near. Instead it's probably better to focus on whichever issues this video has brought to light, such as why this violent guy has been released so much despite having 14 priors.

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wanderingshade
09/10/25 12:51:50 PM
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See, ArCon talked about that one knife attack because it was a black man. They didn't talk about this other guy that happened recently or the stabbing in Traverse City (that guy was actually clinically insane) because it doesn't fit their narrative of non-whites ruining society. The Traverse City one even goes against their typical white guy shooting deflection of talking about mental health, which then of course they waffle about afterwards and never really discuss again.

That's the conservative propaganda zeitgeist, they only care about this narrative about minorities.

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el_cheato
09/10/25 12:57:55 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Questioning the significance of any particular crime is a rabbit hole you don't want to get anywhere near. Instead it's probably better to focus on whichever issues this video has brought to light, such as why this violent guy has been released so much despite having 14 priors.
I don't know what his priors were, where they murders, assaults, or j-walking? I, like most people talking about this particular murder, don't have anything interesting to add to the discussion, and I think it's sus as hell that conservative outlets are parading it around like the biggest event of a generation.

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apocalyptic_4
09/10/25 12:59:21 PM
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The problem people had was that he was arrested and released repeatedly.

And the judge that previously let him free dosen't have a law degree and was never a lawyer. And this has been a issue for a long time.
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el_cheato
09/10/25 1:03:39 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
The problem people had was that he was arrested and released repeatedly.

And the judge that previously let him free dosen't have a law degree and was never a lawyer. And this has been a issue for a long time.
Depending on what he was arrested for that may or may not have been reasonable. In either case I don't think that warrants being worldwide breaking news for a week straight.

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SilvosForever
09/10/25 1:05:46 PM
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I believe what amps it up is the fact that the woman was a Ukrainian migrant seeking refuge in the U.S. and the perpetrator was a psychopath who had been arrested 14 times before and called the police saying he's going to kill someone but still wasn't institutionalized.

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Hospy
09/10/25 1:07:54 PM
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1) Pretty white woman victim
2) Black man attacker
3) Repeat offender
4) Unprovoked
5) On video
6) Gruesome

I don't think it blows up if you don't have all these elements.

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emblem-man
09/10/25 1:07:55 PM
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el_cheato posted...
I don't know what his priors were, where they murders, assaults, or j-walking? I, like most people talking about this particular murder, don't have anything interesting to add to the discussion, and I think it's sus as hell that conservative outlets are parading it around like the biggest event of a generation.

Various things. Some as "minimum" as speeding and some as serious as armed assault and robbery.

https://www.wbtv.com/2025/09/09/timeline-charlotte-light-rail-stabbing-suspect-has-history-arrests-prison-time/

He did serve jail time for some of those so I don't want to catastrophize and act as if cops just let him off scot free every time.

It's just one of those things where, if someone shows a continuous pattern of violent crime even after serving time in jail, what should we do?


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A_Good_Boy
09/10/25 1:22:58 PM
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emblem-man posted...
Various things. Some as "minimum" as speeding and some as serious as armed assault and robbery.

https://www.wbtv.com/2025/09/09/timeline-charlotte-light-rail-stabbing-suspect-has-history-arrests-prison-time/

He did serve jail time for some of those so I don't want to catastrophize and act as if cops just let him off scot free every time.

It's just one of those things where, if someone shows a continuous pattern of violent crime even after serving time in jail, what should we do?
Yeah it looks like his crimes were constantly escalating in intensity, and when they started to become violent then he did serve time in jail for them. Maybe his jail stay could have been longer, Idk I guess, but I don't really know what else could have been done about this guy before he finally snapped and murdered someone.

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Voidgolem
09/10/25 1:25:36 PM
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Convenient scapegoat for automotive/oil barons to go "PUBLIC TRANSIT BAD" by proxy

Bonus points: feeds into the racist narratives that demonstrably work in the US media consciousness.

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HashtagSEP
09/10/25 1:27:12 PM
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winstonthewhite posted...
There's probably another random murder that happens all the time that left leaning people would have made a big deal about for political reasons too. It's a shame this woman's brutal unnecessary murder is being turned into some political tribal war BS as usual

Oh, whew. I was worried nobody would "both sides" this.

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eggcorn
09/10/25 1:27:14 PM
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White woman and its not epstein related

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Sansoldier
09/10/25 1:29:02 PM
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What's more to talk about? We know that we need to make strides with restorative justice, and the punitive system continues to create worse results.

Conservatives' bad ideology wants even more punitive measures that will make things even worse.

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emblem-man
09/10/25 1:29:14 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
but I don't really know what else could have been done about this guy before he finally snapped and murdered someone.

Yeah, he served jail time and got released in 2020 but everything since 2020 was non violent stuff. So I doubt anything more jail time could really have happened from that.

In January 2025, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police arrested Brown for a third time for misusing 911.

The alleged misuse happened around 11:30 p.m. Officers on scene said in court filings that Brown believed he had been given a man-made material that controlled when he ate, walked, and talked.

The main thing though...guy was crazy..


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MuscleRobo
09/10/25 1:53:15 PM
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el_cheato posted...
Yes it's tragic but dozens of murders happen every day.

That sounds so sad to phrase it like that. I think minimizing the individual like this is what people do to excuse shitty behavior. "JK Rowling is a billionaire what does it matter if I buy one of her books?" "People die in America everyday why should I care about the middle east?" I think saying you don't care because of the scale of the world leads to those annoying "Actually, in the grand scheme of thing humans haven't been here long and we're an insignificant speck in the universe." OK? So nothing matters?
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SauI_Goodman
09/10/25 1:58:26 PM
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White girl goes missing: bring out the choppas scent dogs swat detectives and ask the community for volunteers

Minority goes missing: we are investigating

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el_cheato
09/10/25 1:59:18 PM
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MuscleRobo posted...
That sounds so sad to phrase it like that. I think minimizing the individual like this is what people do to excuse shitty behavior. "JK Rowling is a billionaire what does it matter if I buy one of her books?" "People die in America everyday why should I care about the middle east?" I think saying you don't care because of the scale of the world leads to those annoying "Actually, in the grand scheme of thing humans haven't been here long and we're an insignificant speck in the universe." OK? So nothing matters?
I'm not saying it doesn't matter, I'm saying it's not news.

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emblem-man
09/10/25 2:00:51 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
White girl goes missing: bring out the choppas scent dogs swat detectives and ask the community for volunteers

Minority goes missing: we are investigating

I mean they have the killer already and they have video.

If they had this same situation but she was black instead of white, I feel confident in saying that Republicans would blast this story even more because now it could be phrased as Dem "soft on crime policies" being bad for minorities.

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StarSpangled
09/14/25 7:59:18 AM
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Isnt it also because shes a Ukrainian refugee? In any case, better than Charlie Kirk.

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Zikten
09/14/25 8:03:48 AM
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StarSpangled posted...
Isnt it also because shes a Ukrainian refugee? In any case, better than Charlie Kirk.
Nah, if anything, if they were consistent, conservatives wouldn't care about her. The same people losing their minds over her murder, would have just as easily supported abandoning her nation to the Russian army. She, or members of her family would die to Russian soldiers, and these same people wouldn't lose any sleep
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