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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:01:37 AM #1: |
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-shooting-police-search-for-suspect-amid-condemnation-of-targeted-killing
So they may have a fingerprint or be able to trace the weapon's owners. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jefffan 09/11/25 11:04:00 AM #2: |
If that guy was stupid enough to not wear gloves he deserves to get caught. --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpawnShadow 09/11/25 11:09:57 AM #3: |
Assuming, of course, that those actually are the shooter's rifle, shoes, and imprints and not just bogus evidence that Patel's FBI cooked up specifically to give Donnie casus belli against his political enemies. --- I don't want to live on this planet anymore. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:12:03 AM #4: |
Oh look, this master assassin might have made errors. SpawnShadow posted... Assuming, of course, that those actually are the shooter's rifle, shoes, and imprints and not just bogus evidence that Patel's FBI cooked up specifically to give Donnie casus belli against his political enemies. Oh my god just stop --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/11/25 11:12:43 AM #5: |
SpawnShadow posted... Assuming, of course, that those actually are the shooter's rifle, shoes, and imprints and not just bogus evidence that Patel's FBI cooked up specifically to give Donnie casus belli against his political enemies. At this point, I'm thinking they might not even want to find the shooter. It would put a wrench in their whole narrative if it was another angry white dude. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaitouace 09/11/25 11:13:51 AM #6: |
LightSnake posted... Oh look, this master assassin might have made errors. Honestly, if they have no leads and then suddenly find all this person's stuff with apparent pro-transgender messages scrawled all over the gun and ammo? I'ma be at least skeptical. --- "They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/11/25 11:15:32 AM #7: |
It's also not unprecedented for government agencies to plant evidence to serve a political agenda. Ask several black civil rights activists.... --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:15:34 AM #8: |
LightSnake posted... Oh my god just stop I remember when Sandy Hook happened and many people upset about "the left" reaction to Charlie Kirk said horrible things calling it a false flag ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarshMellow 09/11/25 11:20:33 AM #9: |
The gun was most likely purchased at a gun show or stolen so little chance of using that to find the suspect unless they want to get caught. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/11/25 11:23:34 AM #10: |
MarshMellow posted... The gun was most likely purchased at a gun show or stolen so little chance of using that to find the suspect unless they want to get caught. If that's the case, it's one helluva argument for closing that loophole. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 09/11/25 11:24:10 AM #11: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... It's also not unprecedented for government agencies to plant evidence to serve a political agenda. Ask several black civil rights activists....You really think someone would do that? Just make up lies to justify their actions? --- The shadows I live with are numberless ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:24:27 AM #12: |
Kaitouace posted... Honestly, if they have no leads and then suddenly find all this person's stuff with apparent pro-transgender messages scrawled all over the gun and ammo? I'ma be at least skeptical My friend, a dude shot a healthcare CEO with "DENY DEPOSE DEFEND" written on his bullets, why do you think shooters follow this level of airtight logic? Do you have any idea what a frameup would entail? Do you have any idea, and I mean ANY, how quickly that would fall apart? How many people would be needed for it? --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:25:30 AM #13: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... If that's the case, it's one helluva argument for closing that loophole. the deceased would not want that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:28:26 AM #14: |
LightSnake posted... Do you have any idea what a frameup would entail? Do you have any idea, and I mean ANY, how quickly that would fall apart? How many people would be needed for it? you make the assumption that the people doing the frameup have thought about how difficult it would be to pull off ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/11/25 11:28:41 AM #15: |
LightSnake posted... My friend, a dude shot a healthcare CEO with "DENY DEPOSE DEFEND" written on his bullets, why do you think shooters follow this level of airtight logic? Surely the timing of it doesn't strike you as even a little bit suspect? Like, right when Republicans start talking about taking guns away from transpeople, one just so happens to shoot a prominent Republican figurehead with a bullet that has two of Republicans' favorite boogeymen etched into it? --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaitouace 09/11/25 11:29:10 AM #16: |
LightSnake posted... My friend, a dude shot a healthcare CEO with "DENY DEPOSE DEFEND" written on his bullets, why do you think shooters follow this level of airtight logic? I'm not saying it's a grand conspiracy. I mean, remember Minnesota just a few months ago? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7ea5989f.jpg Right wing nutjob had these in his car like he was clever. Like others have said, if they find a guy in Utah who put antifa slogans and pro-trans stuff on his guns and ammo? It's a bit on the nose. --- "They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley ... Copied to Clipboard!
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realnifty1 09/11/25 11:29:43 AM #17: |
Doesn't really mean anything yet. You are supposed to ditch the weapon, and the weapon is not supposed to have any ties back to you. If Luigi had ditched the weapon he'd have a much better chance of beating the case. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:31:04 AM #18: |
Kaitouace posted... I'm not saying it's a grand conspiracy. I mean, remember Minnesota just a few months ago? Kaitouace posted... I'm not saying it's a grand conspiracy. I mean, remember Minnesota just a few months ago? I think that goes to my point. People who shoot people are not very rational. That ddude's paper thin story fell apart instantly. If a dude did this to frame trans people and is some groyper? I will not be shocked and we'll probably find that out very quickly. But "The FBI is engaging in a coverup" is a bit much. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JoCrazy 09/11/25 11:31:27 AM #19: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bbe70ec1.jpg WSJ Not good if true, they'll use this to justify banning guns for trans people --- Cape Cod made. Wicked Pissah My Wrestling highlights TikTok that's becoming popular: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrestlingworldwide4life ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:32:27 AM #20: |
JoCrazy posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bbe70ec1.jpg odd that Guardian had no mention of this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:33:31 AM #21: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... Surely the timing of it doesn't strike you as even a little bit suspect? Like, right when Republicans start talking about taking guns away from transpeople, one just so happens to shoot a prominent Republican figurehead with a bullet that has two of Republicans' favorite boogeymen etched into it? I mean, no, not really. Shit being super high profile in the news is exactly when someone disturbed might act on it, quite frankly. I'm saying we need to see more. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaitouace 09/11/25 11:33:38 AM #22: |
LightSnake posted... If a dude did this to frame trans people and is some groyper? I will not be shocked and we'll probably find that out very quickly. But "The FBI is engaging in a coverup" is a bit much. Also remember that Kash Patel tweeted out that they had the guy before going "Oops. Actually we don't have the guy." My trust in the FBI is even lower than usual. Maybe if they had someone competent in charge. Plus they fired the head FBI agent for Utah because of DEI. https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/analysis/fbi-women-minorities-job-losses-kash-patel-rcna222988 --- "They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chadawah 09/11/25 11:33:57 AM #23: |
Inside the rifle? --- Bethany took my pickles. All of them. Even the spicey ones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thermador446 09/11/25 11:34:13 AM #24: |
This whole thing is gonna make Kash OD on Aderall --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/11/25 11:35:14 AM #25: |
LightSnake posted... I mean, no, not really. Shit being super high profile in the news is exactly when someone disturbed might act on it, quite frankly. I'm not seeing why this would be the perfect time to act on it, more than any other time. I'm not going to commit 100% to it being a conspiracy. What I'm saying is I don't trust everything they're telling us. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kind9 09/11/25 11:36:27 AM #26: |
There are a couple videos of the shooter on the roof. Too far away to identify the person. Supposedly law enforcement has a video that can identify the shooter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:36:27 AM #27: |
police audio of someone reporting the description https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15088159/charlie-kirk-assassination-police-audio-fbi-questions.html jeans blackshirt blackvest?blackmask? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 09/11/25 11:36:35 AM #28: |
jefffan posted... If that guy was stupid enough to not wear gloves he deserves to get caught.I think he deserves to get caught bc he assassinated a person --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:36:57 AM #29: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... I'm not seeing why this would be the perfect time to act on it, more than any other time. Because he was there and most crimes involved opportunity. Thomas Crooks tried to kill Trump when he was there, too. Most people select targets based on what they can accomplish as opposed to lengthy travel --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:37:36 AM #30: |
Kaitouace posted... Also remember that Kash Patel tweeted out that they had the guy before going "Oops. Actually we don't have the guy." My trust in the FBI is even lower than usual. Maybe if they had someone competent in charge. Plus they fired the head FBI agent for Utah because of DEI. That is actually pretty solid evidence against them engaging in coverups, tbqh. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 09/11/25 11:40:48 AM #31: |
Definitely not a false flag, the child rapists would never stoop so low. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:41:37 AM #32: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... I'm not seeing why this would be the perfect time to act on it, more than any other time. many of these shooters turn out to be deranged people who want to feel like they make an impact on the world for good or bad or some bs in their head if they kill some famous person they somehow accomplish that it is not logical so anytime a big famous person that if they die can make waves, these type of people may try to kill them as stated this is the case with Trump shooter for example, and why they don't talk about his shooter they instead talk about how "the left" tried and failed to kill Trump but not the shooter himself and who he was because he was just a nut who wanted to kill someone famous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thermador446 09/11/25 11:45:01 AM #33: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Kanye West? --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:47:45 AM #34: |
Thermador446 posted... Kanye West? that would not be good the right is currently trying to go off racistly due to the subway stabbing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaitouace 09/11/25 11:48:57 AM #35: |
LightSnake posted... That is actually pretty solid evidence against them engaging in coverups, tbqh. Eh. Firing experienced agents to put in patsies doesn't give me confidence in that reasoning, not that I think it's a "coverup". It's honestly still too early to try to confirm anything. Maybe after we see the supposed carvings. --- "They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 09/11/25 11:51:40 AM #36: |
You would think the footwear would have some dna traces --- Wink wink oh oh wink wink ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 09/11/25 11:52:55 AM #37: |
LightSnake posted... My friend, a dude shot a healthcare CEO with "DENY DEPOSE DEFEND" written on his bullets, why do you think shooters follow this level of airtight logic?Where've you been for the last 8 months? --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:54:02 AM #38: |
Kaitouace posted... Eh. Firing experienced agents to put in patsies doesn't give me confidence in that reasoning, not that I think it's a "coverup". It's honestly still too early to try to confirm anything. Maybe after we see the supposed carvings. There's a LOT of agents in the FBI. Not all of them have been purged. Hell, most haven't. Most of them don't even have very partisan jobs. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 09/11/25 11:55:24 AM #39: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... At this point, I'm thinking they might not even want to find the shooter. They will completely gloss over the fact it's an angry white dude, if it is, and focus squarely on it being a Radical Leftist. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 09/11/25 11:57:12 AM #40: |
WingsOfGood posted... you make the assumption that the people doing the frameup have thought about how difficult it would be to pull off You understand that them being incompetent makes a successful frame job even MORE unlikely, right? --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 11:57:53 AM #41: |
Heineken14 posted... You understand that them being incompetent makes a successful frame job even MORE unlikely, right? who says it is going to be successful? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 11:59:09 AM #42: |
WingsOfGood posted... who says it is going to be successful? Kirk died YESTERDAY. Unexpectedly. You're telling me they are now putting together a frame job against some rando, who they have also conveniently identified, that dozens, if not hundreds of FBI and DOJ officials are just going along with it, where they'll still have to try this person before a judge and with defense Counsel... As opposed to just trying to find the shooter? --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER 09/11/25 12:00:31 PM #43: |
If they find the guy and he conveniently shoots himself, maybe then I'd be sus. --- I wash myself with a rag on stiiick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 12:00:43 PM #44: |
LightSnake posted... Kirk died YESTERDAY. Unexpectedly. I am not saying they are doing it it is a possibility but I am not convinced however in responding to your comment, the fact that it is hard to pull off does not negate the fact that an attempt could be made your suggestion was "it is too hard therefore it could not even be attempted" is bad logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 09/11/25 12:01:12 PM #45: |
WingsOfGood posted... police audio of someone reporting the description From the article: Descriptions, broadcast on public safety scanner audio obtained by Daily Mail, included a man 'wearing all black, black long gun, black tactical helmet, a black mask, possibly wearing a tactical vest and jeans', and 'shoulder length hair, aviator glasses, black bag and a long gun'. That describes 90% of ICE agents and at least half of right-wing TikTok who records from the front seat of their car (except the aviators are wraparounds). Are we looking for an ICE agent? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 09/11/25 12:01:18 PM #46: |
WingsOfGood posted... I am not saying they are doing it "An attempt COULD be made!" Stop. Just stop. No, I promise you, they want to actually find the shooter. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 12:01:58 PM #47: |
LightSnake posted... they want to actually find the shooter. and I hope they do ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 09/11/25 12:02:53 PM #48: |
DnDer posted... That describes 90% of ICE agents and at least half of right-wing TikTok who records from the front seat of their car (except the aviators are wraparounds). Are we looking for an ICE agent? what I thought when I heard black mask but seems they said vest not mask ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 09/11/25 12:03:27 PM #49: |
FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted... If they find the guy and he conveniently shoots himself, maybe then I'd be sus.That or suicide by cop is a pretty likely outcome, though. Even assuming the right person was identified. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. 30-50% of those arrested at anti immigration protests in the UK have convictions for domestic abuse. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JoCrazy 09/11/25 12:07:07 PM #50: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1c3e61c7.jpg --- Cape Cod made. Wicked Pissah My Wrestling highlights TikTok that's becoming popular: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrestlingworldwide4life ... Copied to Clipboard!
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