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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/24/25 11:36:43 PM
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Superman is often kinda shown to be a brawler... but like, if he was trained by a great martial artist, he would be even more crazy scary.

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A_Good_Boy
09/24/25 11:38:17 PM
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Yes

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Dungeater
09/24/25 11:39:19 PM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Superman is often kinda shown to be a brawler... but like, if he was trained by a great martial artist, he would be even more crazy scary.
Yes, and Wonder Woman. and in Kryptonian martial arts. Superman can fight, its just the overwhelming majority of opponents dont call for it

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Kurt_Russel
09/24/25 11:39:22 PM
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Id think maybe he learned a bit from the fights he and Batman have had.

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TMOG
09/24/25 11:40:02 PM
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IIRC he's learned from both Batman and Wonder Woman and maybe a few others, and also knows a couple Kryptonian martial arts styles. But yeah, he's generally OP enough that he can get away with just rushing in and punching someone.

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DragulaRULEZ
09/24/25 11:40:23 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f93b4eb0.jpg

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UnfairRepresent
09/26/25 10:31:07 PM
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Why do you need martial arts when you could snap your opponents spine with your little finger and move faster than the speed of sound ?

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DrizztLink
09/26/25 10:32:09 PM
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Some Supes versions have little to no training, but "mainline" Supes has had some degree of training for at least decades.

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pegusus123456
09/26/25 10:32:38 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Why do you need martial arts when you could snap your opponents spine with your little finger and move faster than the speed of sound ?
Most of his villains are at or above his level of strength.

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itcheyness
09/26/25 10:32:47 PM
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In an old comic book, he got boxing lessons from Muhammad Ali.

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Paragon21XX
09/26/25 10:47:44 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Why do you need martial arts when you could snap your opponents spine with your little finger and move faster than the speed of sound ?
For those whose spines he can't just snap with his little finger like Doomsday, Darkseid, Mongul, Lobo, Zod, Bizarro, Amazo, etc.

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The_Popo
09/26/25 10:50:42 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
For those whose spines he can't just snap with his little finger like Doomsday, Darkseid, Mongul, Lobo, Zod, Bizarro, Amazo, etc.

I wanna see Doomsday shock everyone by busting out some Muay Thai

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UnfairRepresent
09/26/25 11:08:25 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
For those whose spines he can't just snap with his little finger like Doomsday, Darkseid, Mongul, Lobo, Zod, Bizarro, Amazo, etc.
WTF Martial arts will help you against Doomsday or Darkseid?

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El_Marsh
09/26/25 11:10:18 PM
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itcheyness posted...
In an old comic book, he got boxing lessons from Muhammad Ali.
This is what came to mind for me as well lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_vs._Muhammad_Ali

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PissedOffMonk
09/26/25 11:16:18 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
WTF Martial arts will help you against Doomsday or Darkseid?

Martial arts include defensive techniques. It's not just strikes and grapples.
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MorbidFaithless
09/27/25 12:16:52 AM
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Personally I love when he just picks up people/objects and bashes and throws them around.

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pegusus123456
09/27/25 12:21:19 AM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
Personally I love when he just picks up people/objects and bashes and throws them around.
One thing I wish the Gunn movie did with the kaiju was this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d3405df9.jpg

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Philip027
09/27/25 12:25:32 AM
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I feel like Superman would be well beyond anything he could possibly gain out of Earthling "martial arts"

About the only thing it might help him with is not blowing his cover as Clark Kent in a situation where he'd need to fight.
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pegusus123456
09/27/25 12:26:47 AM
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Philip027 posted...
I feel like Superman would be well beyond anything he could possibly gain out of Earthling "martial arts"
Superman is X times stronger than human.

Superman fights guy that is also X times stronger than human.

Why would Earthling martial arts not help him in that situation?

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DrizztLink
09/27/25 12:27:38 AM
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Philip027 posted...
I feel like Superman would be well beyond anything he could possibly gain out of Earthling "martial arts"

About the only thing it might help him with is not blowing his cover as Clark Kent in a situation where he'd need to fight.
This kind of thinking is why Thanos beat the characterization out of Hulk at the beginning of IW.

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WingsOfGood
09/27/25 12:29:45 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Why do you need martial arts when you could snap your opponents spine with your little finger and move faster than the speed of sound ?

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St0rmFury
09/27/25 12:30:34 AM
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Lolwut, I was just thinking about this a couple of days ago.

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St0rmFury
09/27/25 12:31:25 AM
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Anyway, I think boxing will suit Supes best.

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MyMainAccount
09/27/25 12:32:40 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
This kind of thinking is why Thanos beat the characterization out of Hulk at the beginning of IW.
He lost because he learned martial arts? it's probably more that learning to be zen doesn't help a guy who gets stronger the madder he gets.

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pegusus123456
09/27/25 12:33:17 AM
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MyMainAccount posted...
He lost because he learned martial arts? it's probably more that learning to be zen doesn't help a guy who gets stronger the madder he gets.
I'm pretty sure Drizzt's point is that Hulk lost because Thanos knows how to fight while Hulk only knows how to smash.

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DrizztLink
09/27/25 12:34:43 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I'm pretty sure Drizzt's point is that Hulk lost because Thanos knows how to fight while Hulk only knows how to smash.


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El_Marsh
09/27/25 12:58:34 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
One thing I wish the Gunn movie did with the kaiju was this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d3405df9.jpg
I really hate when Superman is written like this

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Tyranthraxus
09/27/25 2:12:58 AM
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El_Marsh posted...
I really hate when Superman is written like this

I don't mind that attitude but what I don't like about that panel is Superman has got to be much stronger than whatever he's standing on. Why didn't the attack bury Superman? It doesn't make sense that he would go through his hand like a nail. It should have pushed him underground.

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pegusus123456
09/27/25 2:22:53 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I don't mind that attitude but what I don't like about that panel is Superman has got to be much stronger than whatever he's standing on. Why didn't the attack bury Superman? It doesn't make sense that he would go through his hand like a nail. It should have pushed him underground.
He's ever so slightly flying upwards to counteract the weight.

Also half of the shit Superman does violates the laws of physics, this is not the kind of thing you should be questioning.

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DrizztLink
09/27/25 2:54:26 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
He's ever so slightly flying upwards to counteract the weight.
Pulling an Injustice Supes and just hovering ominously everywhere.

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Philip027
09/27/25 4:21:09 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Superman is X times stronger than human.

Superman fights guy that is also X times stronger than human.

Why would Earthling martial arts not help him in that situation?

I already said why; you even quoted it.

The guy is a being so far above the puny earthlings in power that I feel it's rather presumptuous to assume that we have any sort of combat techniques to teach him that would help him fight.
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pegusus123456
09/27/25 4:35:38 AM
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Philip027 posted...
I already said why; you even quoted it.

The guy is a being so far above the puny earthlings in power that I feel it's rather presumptuous to assume that we have any sort of combat techniques to teach him that would help him fight.
I still don't understand how it wouldn't help. The techniques are the same, you just scale up the strength.

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thekosmicfool
09/27/25 4:39:35 AM
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El_Marsh posted...
I really hate when Superman is written like this

Yeah I don't like that smug, alien attitude. That's like something Homelander would do.

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UnfairRepresent
09/27/25 4:45:39 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I still don't understand how it wouldn't help. The techniques are the same, you just scale up the strength.
Imagine reaching armbars to a walking nuclear bomb

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pegusus123456
09/27/25 4:54:00 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Imagine reaching armbars to a walking nuclear bomb
The difficulty of teaching it I understand, though Batman could just throw on a red sun generator or something

But Phil is saying the techniques themselves wouldn't be useful to know.

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UnfairRepresent
09/27/25 5:08:19 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The difficulty of teaching it I understand, though Batman could just throw on a red sun generator or something

But Phil is saying the techniques themselves wouldn't be useful to know.
No I mean what's the point

if two nuclear bombs explode on each other, what we taught them doesn't help much


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