Board 8 > Lategame level/dungeon that is comprised of mini versions of earlier areas

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Also what's the first one you thought of

Kingdom Hearts

OoT is the first I thought of. It's not executed super well there

I like when boss fights do it, where the background changes throughout the fight (FFVIII and Twilight Princess both did it, I believe).

Wind Waker was my first thought. Not all that well-executed there either, but a great concept

Celeste is the first example I thought of.

It's a cool concept and I usually like it. The Monolith in Expedition 33 went too long though. Thank god they skipped one or two areas.

DMC3
Uh, it's generally fine.

Cool, despite my first thought being Sonic 06

Cool vs lame depends on the game. It's best for platformers, I'd say. Bad in RPGs.

The first one I thought of was Celeste.

CoolCly posted...

It's a cool concept and I usually like it. The Monolith in Expedition 33 went too long though. Thank god they skipped one or two areas.

The Monolith is what inspired this topic. It was a slog and made me me wonder if I ever really liked when games do this.

But people brought up Celeste and that was rad.

Didn't like it in Expedition 33, and generally don't like it unless there's a good plot hook for it. Give me your most impressive and creative level last!

Majora's Mask

It's fine there. It's a good idea, but a bit of a cliche one. Helps a lot more if the individual levels are all memorable.

The Great Maze lol

Some games pull it off extraordinarily well, but it's usually just kinda bad.

Feels weak far more often than it feels cool - but it can potentially be very cool

trials of mana remake had this for a postgame dungeon. it sucked so bad I never ended up finishing it

I think usually it's pretty cool

Can be done well, but it's generally cheesy. Unless there's a narrative reason why you would review all of the past places you've been (such as in the final fight of A Hat in Time,) that sort of "reminiscing" should be saved for the credits.

Etrian odyssey

I generallyl think cool

I remember Eternal Darkness doing this in an effective way during the final boss fight.

OoT was my first thought.

I think I used to like it more. Now I feel like its just a way to pad a games length near the end by reusing assets.

The post game dungeon in Labyrinth of Refrain does this. The reason why is very spoilery though.

If it's done well it works, especially if they take the time to add the little bits of "flavor" necessary to make it feel meaningful.

...But usually it's done in some cheap, copout-like fashion that makes it clear they just didn't bother wanting to design something new.