So Ukranians went into Russia and massacred a thousand people? Thats not what I saw.

Say what you want about the atrocities in Gaza now, its all well deserved at this point, but the events of October 7th essentially ruin any claim Hamas has of being an organized resistance movement. You want to make comparisons about the IDF and Russia with regards to civilian casualties, fine. The numbers are what they are, and cannot be disputed.

But theres not much else to compare with regards to how the two conflicts got started.