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wolfy42 posted...
Respect? how about just being a normal freaking human with some self control? Most/many guys find women attractive but don't consider raping them.

Most of those guys have the option of acting on their attraction without hurting people. Bear in mind also that a lot of child molestation isn't as overt and forcible as people tend to consider rape to be. That doesn't make it any better, of course, but it does make it easier for the person doing it to rationalize it as being consensual enough (or at least to skip the step of considering whether or not their "partner" can actually consent).

wolfy42 posted...
I don't even quite understand how anyone find pre-pubescent children attractive in a sexual way,

It is very much a mental illness. It shouldn't make sense to mentally healthy people because it relies on the brain working in very much the wrong way.

wolfy42 posted...
IF you do find children attractive, I would actually suggest getting help. I think what the person means is if they report it, they go to jail because they have looked at child porn or something. I'm pretty sure before you get to that point you would know, and should get help before doing so.

Indeed. The issue is that pedophilia is so demonized that seeking help is difficult regardless of whether or not a person has acted on their urges. Try talking to a friend about it for support, and odds are you'll lose a friend, not end up with somebody who will discourage you from applying to be a gym teacher. As long as people hear "pedophile" and think "child molester" (lumping people who consume child porn in with that), that's not going to change, which means you're going to get more people with pedophilic urges trying (and potentially failing) to handle them on their own.

wolfy42 posted...
I even consider virutal (anime etc) child porn should be illegal because it could escalate someone etc.

I'd actually consider that to be one of the healthy outlets I alluded to earlier. Virtual stuff is actually harmless to make, meaning consuming it isn't harmful. That's not to say its consumption isn't cause for concern or that anyone using it as an outlet doesn't need to be seeking other help to keep their urges under control, but saying that it should be illegal because its consumers might want more is like saying that money should be illegal because it might make those who have it want to steal more. Illegality should be based on actual harm, not the presumption that it might inspire somebody to escalate to something more harmful (see also: "gateway drug").

wolfy42 posted...
And yeah, if there is solid proof (actual video, dna evidence etc) that you molested a child, you should be locked up and the key thrown away or given the option of true castration (unless there is a way to ensure chemical castration is 100% effective and that the person can't just stop taking drugs etc) or the option to be put to death (your choice).

Generally a knee-jerk overreaction, but basically, yeah. Child molesters suck and deserve pretty much all the hate they get (although the "won't somebody think of the children?!?!" attitude that drives people to consider it the worst crime ever is thoroughly irrational). I don't disagree there.

wolfy42 posted...
There should be "towns" that have security around them for sex offenders and others who are not safe to be part of society, but who can live mostly normal lives inside, working and living etc, even with (monitored) internet access. They could easily be made to actually generate money/taxes instead of cost tax payers a ton each year, and you could use such places to ensure dangerous people were not free to possibly harm others in the future.

You basically just described a concentration camp. Being based on criminal convictions instead of some politician's genocidal inclinations takes a lot of the sting out of the concept, but it's still not really a reasonable approach. Rehabilitative prison and post-release restrictions (i.e. not being allowed to work with kids) is generally going to be more reasonable, though obviously America kind of struggles with the whole "rehabilitation" thing.


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