Board 8 > Mercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics

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VeryInsane
04/04/17 10:30:48 PM
#151:


eaedwards6400 posted...
I don't like the idea of Corrik actively not participating again.


Actually can you explain what you mean by this
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MZero11
04/04/17 10:30:53 PM
#152:


VeryInsane posted...
Not much bloodlust about his scumspects.


That's my favorite Hearthstone card. For the record I played Shaman before it was cool!
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:31:37 PM
#153:


Nah, I get that inactive bit. I just don't think Corrik is scum.
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MZero11
04/04/17 10:33:00 PM
#154:


Hey VI how do you feel about

Ben
Kanz
Shaduln
Death
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:34:44 PM
#155:


Mzero, do you have any scumspects? Looking back to check what you've posted recently...
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Jaded_Eye
04/04/17 10:35:27 PM
#156:


Lopen
You definitely have to assuage suspicions against you as town. Simply being town is not good enough as believe it or not claiming town doesn't actually do anything. It's your job to not only scumhunt but also facilitate that by not being wrongly lynched, as you being lynched is wasting a day. So this is not a contradiction.

The contradiction is more in my mindset believing that any suspicion 20 minutes in is almost certainly illegitimate, something you'd have to read between the lines to get as I didn't quite say that outright, but more just laughed Ulti's 'suspicion' off because of that. This is similar but not exactly what you posted for what you thought I thought Chris was saying-- it's more specific to how I feel about votes 20 minutes in than some sorta absolute truth. I mean if Ulti really really felt good about my so called slip, then why wouldn't it be legitimate suspicion?

As a whole I'm not satisfied with the answers given. No extra credit. Two demerits.


Addressing this first: yeah, I realized as I was writing that post that some of the logics my arguments were based off of were kind of wrong there...hence mention of the logical leaps which might better be characterized as misleaps. Only mentioning this now because I wasn't awake enough to mention it yesterday.

Also, spent a lot of time reading posts today and not actually posting anything...tomorrow not going to read absolutely everything before posting. Will never GET posting done that way. XD Moving on to my thoughts from reading through.
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:35:53 PM
#157:


Ah I see you're fixating on something small that I don't agree is a scumtell... man... I really find you scummy Mzero.
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:36:26 PM
#158:


Yup, this is more what I expected.
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VeryInsane
04/04/17 10:37:06 PM
#159:


MZero11 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Not much bloodlust about his scumspects.


That's my favorite Hearthstone card. For the record I played Shaman before it was cool!


I'm like 8 wins away from Golden Shaman so close I can taste it

Oddity posted...
Nah, I get that inactive bit. I just don't think Corrik is scum.


Why not? Curious as to your reasoning given how you felt on him last game

MZero11 posted...
Hey VI how do you feel about

Ben
Kanz
Shaduln
Death


Ben is town.

Kanz is potato that I lean town.

Shad is potato that I lean scum.

Death I heavily lean scum on
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Shaduln
04/04/17 10:37:34 PM
#160:


I dont like that mzero said that corrik was towny because he wasn't riding his claim but when i pointed out corrik's claim means nothing he just said "well I still like him".
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Shaduln
04/04/17 10:38:04 PM
#161:


Pineapple, tyvm.
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MZero11
04/04/17 10:41:04 PM
#162:


Shaduln posted...
I dont like that mzero said that corrik was towny because he wasn't riding his claim but when i pointed out corrik's claim means nothing he just said "well I still like him".


Corrik - Town. He claimed Cop but still provided a lot of content and didn't coast. He made good points and I feel pretty good about him


Bolded the parts you seemed to have missed for convenience!
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VeryInsane
04/04/17 10:41:50 PM
#163:


What's the content that you liked?

Care to give anything specific?
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Leo3L
04/04/17 10:41:55 PM
#164:


I don't really have any real interest in this right now. Maybe tomorrow.

benjamin3740 posted...
I'm on Leo because Town Leo leaves a mark, even on day 1, and this Leo has not. There's still time of course, but that's what my pressure vote is for. Sucks if he's mafia because I was really looking forward to playing with him


##Vote: Ben
##Vote2: Ben

I don't like a couple things about this post.

1. I've only been scum lately, I'm pretty sure Ben has never actually seen me be Town in the two or so games I've played with him.
2. "pressure vote"
3. General tone?

I know he's a miller claim and all but when I was skimming that just twigged me as a really false sounding post. "Oh golly gee I was looking forward to playing with that Leo guy who I somehow know leaves a mark as town!!"

This post will be embarrassing if I'm just forgetting a game where I was awesome town and Ben was around but yolo. Equal odds he read something on a scumboard! Really I just wanted to double vote.
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Johnbobb
04/04/17 10:42:14 PM
#165:


VeryInsane posted...
Kanz is potato that I lean town.

Shad is potato that I lean scum.

Curious about these
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MZero11
04/04/17 10:42:28 PM
#166:


Oddity posted...
Ah I see you're fixating on something small that I don't agree is a scumtell... man... I really find you scummy Mzero.


I explained how it is a scumtell because basically the same thing happened in another game!

Also, I'd hardly call it fixating!
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DoomTheGyarados
04/04/17 10:44:08 PM
#167:


Leo, flavor?
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Shaduln
04/04/17 10:45:08 PM
#168:


I dunno, the important part to me in that post is still "wow look at him claim cop and still participate!"
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Leo3L
04/04/17 10:45:17 PM
#169:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Leo, flavor?


Leo3L posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
hello beautiful people

how are you on this fine evening


I'm just killing time until Persona 5.

You?


(My flavor is Kanz)
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:46:22 PM
#170:


Well, it seems hearsay lied to me. I feel betrayed.
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DoomTheGyarados
04/04/17 10:47:25 PM
#171:


Kanz as double voter...

Hrm.

Nope Leo is scum with a one time double vote.

##unvote:
##vote: Leo


Admins had the power to cast tiebreaking votes in Mercs, and were very powerful for that reason. I bet Leo is HGR who always seemed to show up and screw Gravcy with a tiebreaking vote.
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DoomTheGyarados
04/04/17 10:48:10 PM
#172:


Oh, wait. There is one other possible thing this could be if he is town.

Leo, why can you double vote?
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:48:16 PM
#173:


For srs, chris? Scum doublevoter? Never really considered that tbqh...
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DoomTheGyarados
04/04/17 10:48:37 PM
#174:


Oddity posted...
For srs, chris? Scum doublevoter? Never really considered that tbqh...

It's been done.
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VeryInsane
04/04/17 10:48:41 PM
#175:


Johnbobb posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Kanz is potato that I lean town.

Shad is potato that I lean scum.

Curious about these


Potato is just another word for inactive.

Totally the same
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VeryInsane
04/04/17 10:49:09 PM
#176:


Oddity posted...
For srs, chris? Scum doublevoter? Never really considered that tbqh...


You've missed a lot over the years...
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Corrik
04/04/17 10:49:15 PM
#177:


Oddity posted...
hey corrik, you got any scumspects?

Yes. Chris Ulti Leo Lopen IGCD

That order
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DoomTheGyarados
04/04/17 10:50:47 PM
#178:


Corrk is a sometimes silly but usually accurate reader of things, which means he is either scum or I am very wrong about the rest of that list.
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Corrik
04/04/17 10:52:33 PM
#179:


Literally day 1
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MZero11
04/04/17 10:52:50 PM
#180:


VeryInsane posted...
What's the content that you liked?

Care to give anything specific?


Mostly, I liked how he provided original content in high volume. I think he was the only one to mention IGCD and Lopen as scummates who set that exchange up, which while I don't agree with it, he's sticking his neck out there and not following the crowd. He also had conviction in going after Chris in Ulti which I think is pretty ballsy. I just feel like he extended himself a lot more than he needed to.

Corrik posted...
I just want to toss this out here. I could see Lopen and IGCD being scum together. Him throwing a joke vite on his scummate and his scummate joking about why to get off. It is the kind of fake activity scum would like to do while putting the idea in the back of the head of well why would he go after his scummate there as scum. Keeping that in the back of my mind for now as a possible connection.

Odds are that IGCD did not roll scum 2 days in a row tho. It is however odd IGCD chose Lopebln to joke with as he does not know Lopen and it is odd Lopen Lopen decided to joke around in response to some dude he doesn't know trying to joke with him.


This was a good point. Not "omg lynch them" level groundbreaking or anything, but it's very possible and I didn't see anyone else mention it (and I didn't consider before either)

By making good points, I mostly mean he was doing legitimate scum hunting and not posting fluff or regurgitated opinions.
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:53:07 PM
#181:


Huh... of that list, Corrik, the ones I feel worst about are your bottom 2.
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Leo3L
04/04/17 10:53:17 PM
#182:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Oh, wait. There is one other possible thing this could be if he is town.

Leo, why can you double vote?


My minion votes for me.

Don't know what that means, don't want to know,

It's not a one use double vote, though
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:55:01 PM
#183:


Also, VI, I do know that you asked me what made me think Corrik was town earlier. I've been thinking about it and it pretty much aligns with Mzero's argument (ironically). I feel he's scumhunting.
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VeryInsane
04/04/17 10:55:39 PM
#184:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrk is a sometimes silly but usually accurate reader of things, which means he is either scum or I am very wrong about the rest of that list.


Yeah apart from Leo (Who I am still trying to process) I think the others are town from that list.

IGCD is a slightly iffy include but I thought some of his suspicions felt genuine, at least compared to last game.
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MZero11
04/04/17 10:55:53 PM
#185:


Shaduln posted...
I dunno, the important part to me in that post is still "wow look at him claim cop and still participate!"


I guess because I listed it first, but it was really just the frosting on top. It wasn't the main reason
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benjamin3740
04/04/17 10:56:05 PM
#186:


MZero11 posted...
I really hate the way Ben is talking about scanning town. It sounds like... he's not town.

I remember this same thing happened with Quicksilver in Fuck 2016 mafia. Corrik claimed a scan on him and he said "I scan innocent" or something and ended up being scum (GF iirc)

I blew it off in that game but now I think there's something there, although the context is a bit different. It still reeks

The context is way different. I only said that I scan Town because I'm trying to prove I had no reason to claim Miller for serious reasons. I mean, I dont expect you to believe me, but it's just the trut, and myself further trying to show you it was a joke
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ScareChan
04/04/17 10:56:54 PM
#187:


Leo3L posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Oh, wait. There is one other possible thing this could be if he is town.

Leo, why can you double vote?


My minion votes for me.

Don't know what that means, don't want to know,

It's not a one use double vote, though


Alany?
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Oddity
04/04/17 10:59:40 PM
#188:


I don't know mercs, does that mesh with the flavor??
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IfGodCouldDie
04/04/17 10:59:50 PM
#189:


Jaded_Eye posted...
Addressing this first: yeah, I realized as I was writing that post that some of the logics my arguments were based off of were kind of wrong there...hence mention of the logical leaps which might better be characterized as misleaps. Only mentioning this now because I wasn't awake enough to mention it yesterday.

Also, spent a lot of time reading posts today and not actually posting anything...tomorrow not going to read absolutely everything before posting. Will never GET posting done that way. XD Moving on to my thoughts from reading through.

Your best bet, if behind, is to just make small notes about the things you want to touch on so you can go back on them after you are relatively caught up.
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Oddity
04/04/17 11:00:48 PM
#190:


And also tbqh, VI, I'm not sure you are scumhunting. All cards on the table, that's just a feeling, and I would need to go back to look it up. But I feel like you're coasting. I'll take a look tomorrow.
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VeryInsane
04/04/17 11:01:40 PM
#191:


I mean I haven't had a reason to really get myself going

Which kinda sucks I wanted to be the king of board 8 mafia D:
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benjamin3740
04/04/17 11:01:54 PM
#192:


Leo3L posted...
I don't really have any real interest in this right now. Maybe tomorrow.

benjamin3740 posted...
I'm on Leo because Town Leo leaves a mark, even on day 1, and this Leo has not. There's still time of course, but that's what my pressure vote is for. Sucks if he's mafia because I was really looking forward to playing with him


##Vote: Ben
##Vote2: Ben

I don't like a couple things about this post.

1. I've only been scum lately, I'm pretty sure Ben has never actually seen me be Town in the two or so games I've played with him.
2. "pressure vote"
3. General tone?

I know he's a miller claim and all but when I was skimming that just twigged me as a really false sounding post. "Oh golly gee I was looking forward to playing with that Leo guy who I somehow know leaves a mark as town!!"

This post will be embarrassing if I'm just forgetting a game where I was awesome town and Ben was around but yolo. Equal odds he read something on a scumboard! Really I just wanted to double vote.

Ooh, a double voter

It was my first game with you. I'll have to go back and look up which one that was.

Also I'm not a miller claim omg
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Oddity
04/04/17 11:02:19 PM
#193:


I mean, no offense, but unless something earthshattering happened I think that title still belongs to Sir Chris in his prime.
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Leo3L
04/04/17 11:03:57 PM
#194:


benjamin3740 posted...
Leo3L posted...
I don't really have any real interest in this right now. Maybe tomorrow.

benjamin3740 posted...
I'm on Leo because Town Leo leaves a mark, even on day 1, and this Leo has not. There's still time of course, but that's what my pressure vote is for. Sucks if he's mafia because I was really looking forward to playing with him


##Vote: Ben
##Vote2: Ben

I don't like a couple things about this post.

1. I've only been scum lately, I'm pretty sure Ben has never actually seen me be Town in the two or so games I've played with him.
2. "pressure vote"
3. General tone?

I know he's a miller claim and all but when I was skimming that just twigged me as a really false sounding post. "Oh golly gee I was looking forward to playing with that Leo guy who I somehow know leaves a mark as town!!"

This post will be embarrassing if I'm just forgetting a game where I was awesome town and Ben was around but yolo. Equal odds he read something on a scumboard! Really I just wanted to double vote.

Ooh, a double voter

It was my first game with you. I'll have to go back and look up which one that was.

Also I'm not a miller claim omg


Was that the one where I was scum and killed you N1?

Or was it the one where I was scum and won at mylo?

Feeling much better about my votes now that I see you're not actually a miller!
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IfGodCouldDie
04/04/17 11:04:47 PM
#195:


Corrik posted...
Chris Ulti Leo Lopen IGCD

This list is very.... much something. Any reason why you think your top listed scum, minus Leo, have all been involved in significant discussion involving each other?
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VeryInsane
04/04/17 11:05:25 PM
#196:


Oddity posted...
I mean, no offense, but unless something earthshattering happened I think that title still belongs to Sir Chris in his prime.


I brought board 8 mafia back to board 8 though D:


Anyway

##unvote:

I'll.... BE BACK

(Gonna reread)
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Oddity
04/04/17 11:05:46 PM
#197:


IGCD, you have been transformed into the dayvig. You have 1 bullet and must fire it, who do you choose?
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Leo3L
04/04/17 11:05:59 PM
#198:


ScareChan posted...
Leo3L posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Oh, wait. There is one other possible thing this could be if he is town.

Leo, why can you double vote?


My minion votes for me.

Don't know what that means, don't want to know,

It's not a one use double vote, though


Alany?


dont u dare educate me on mercs
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IfGodCouldDie
04/04/17 11:07:39 PM
#199:


Oddity posted...
IGCD, you have been transformed into the dayvig. You have 1 bullet and must fire it, who do you choose?

Corrik.
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Oddity
04/04/17 11:08:12 PM
#200:


the claimed cop?
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