Board 8 > Mercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics

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Johnbobb posted...

I can't wait for one of Corrik or Ulti to flip town, and then the other immediately go "HA I actually knew they were town the whole time!"

Literally impossible for ulti to flip town. This behavior has been exhibited in 5+ games and is a stark contrast from his town behavior. If he flips town, then he is just literally in these games to troll at this point.
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Johnbobb posted...

I can't wait for one of Corrik or Ulti to flip town, and then the other immediately go "HA I actually knew they were town the whole time!"

Hey Johnbobb, what do you think of Leo's doublevoting claim earlier?
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If we do not lynch ulti today, I assure you I will not give a single shit about the rest of this game. I am tired of this nonsense being handwaved.
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I want "confirm" doublevoter until I see a votals from gravy. That being said, has a host ever been enough of a bro to purposely have the same vote twice?
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Corrik, because fuck this dumb Ulti spam

What do you think of Ulti's role?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik posted...

If we do not lynch ulti today, I assure you I will not give a single shit about the rest of this game. I am tired of this nonsense being handwaved.

Corrik is 100% scum. You're welcome.

You know, Ulti has said this enough times that I thought gameflux was glitching. I kind of feel like this is a show because despite all of this i don't actually see a vote on Corrik from Ulti.
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VeryInsane posted...

Corrik, because fuck this dumb Ulti spam

What do you think of Ulti's role?

Pretty sure he claimed his real role. Just not his real alignment. I mean, it is a safe day 1 claim. It is not a very popular town role. Commuter is the only thing that possibly could counter claim it, but it isn't damning even if countered. And, the role cannot really be found to be a fraud until the game's setup is revealed.

Which, Ulti has shown last game as scum he does things at times with the "intention" to be lynched say "Day 2". So it could be just a claim where he intends to die later and either bait out claims or avoid scans in the mean time until his "plan" is "accomplished".
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eaedwards6400 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik posted...

If we do not lynch ulti today, I assure you I will not give a single shit about the rest of this game. I am tired of this nonsense being handwaved.

Corrik is 100% scum. You're welcome.

You know, Ulti has said this enough times that I thought gameflux was glitching. I kind of feel like this is a show because despite all of this i don't actually see a vote on Corrik from Ulti.

Gotta vote head honcho Don VI, kingpin of Board 8 Mafia!
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eaedwards6400 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik posted...

If we do not lynch ulti today, I assure you I will not give a single shit about the rest of this game. I am tired of this nonsense being handwaved.

Corrik is 100% scum. You're welcome.

You know, Ulti has said this enough times that I thought gameflux was glitching. I kind of feel like this is a show because despite all of this i don't actually see a vote on Corrik from Ulti.

As scum he always does this. ...again...
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UltimaterializerX posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I want "confirm" doublevoter until I see a votals from gravy. That being said, has a host ever been enough of a bro to purposely have the same vote twice?

I can't speak to mercs flavor meta but if this game has a mafia doublevoter it'll be hard not to replace out and I would never play in a single game hosted by gravy ever again.

That's not even the type of banned role you can include as a joke once in awhile. Death Miller or Jester, who cares. But mafia double voter is on the level of hated townie, mafia bomb, mafia mayor, etc etc etc, where you change the numbers of the game for town to unmanageable levels.

Ergo, Leo is confirmed town and I'm not willing to entertain him as being mafia.

My point was more than if a member of scum faked doublevoter would the host play along? I would hope not and like to agree that Leo == town
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VeryInsane posted...

Johnbobb posted...

I can't wait for one of Corrik or Ulti to flip town, and then the other immediately go "HA I actually knew they were town the whole time!"

Hey Johnbobb, what do you think of Leo's doublevoting claim earlier?

Well, that depends largely on votals being shown, but assuming it's legit, it's hard to imagine scum having a doublevoter. Maybe it's true that it's a one-use, but in that case scum doesn't waste it this early. And Kanz as a doublevoter is perfect from a meta perspective. Heavily leaning Leo (again, assuming votals confirm the doublevtote
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As this Ulti/Corrik fiasco keeps unfolding I am being more and more convinced that they are both scum. Usually in this kind of situation on a day one I would believe town/town but they are both the type of players that would absolutely try and pull a gambit like this in an attempt to distract town and hog the spot light.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I want "confirm" doublevoter until I see a votals from gravy. That being said, has a host ever been enough of a bro to purposely have the same vote twice?

I can't speak to mercs flavor meta but if this game has a mafia doublevoter it'll be hard not to replace out and I would never play in a single game hosted by gravy ever again.

That's not even the type of banned role you can include as a joke once in awhile. Death Miller or Jester, who cares. But mafia double voter is on the level of hated townie, mafia bomb, mafia mayor, etc etc etc, where you change the numbers of the game for town to unmanageable levels.

Ergo, Leo is confirmed town and I'm not willing to entertain him as being mafia.

My point was more than if a member of scum faked doublevoter would the host play along? I would hope not and like to agree that Leo == town

Host cannot lie to the game. So no. Leo could still be svum but if he is the game is xgoing to be unbalanced.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

and possibly IGCD, though he may just be off the mark here) wants me lynched so badly?

I haven't even been pushing on you. I have no idea why you are trying to pull me in to you and corriks little drama.
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I mean

Nothing's saying he's a permanent double voter

And I dunno if this is a game that is going to have a really serious setup regardless knowing how gravy is

(We'll cross that road when we get there though)
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Btw, postgame you can add me to the list of people who refuse to play with Ulti. Actively trolling the game and spamming it repeatedly in a short span is unacceptabke to me. Call me what you wish. I have stated my thoughts and will stick to them.
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Corrik posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Corrik, because fuck this dumb Ulti spam

What do you think of Ulti's role?

Pretty sure he claimed his real role. Just not his real alignment. I mean, it is a safe day 1 claim. It is not a very popular town role. Commuter is the only thing that possibly could counter claim it, but it isn't damning even if countered. And, the role cannot really be found to be a fraud until the game's setup is revealed.

Which, Ulti has shown last game as scum he does things at times with the "intention" to be lynched say "Day 2". So it could be just a claim where he intends to die later and either bait out claims or avoid scans in the mean time until his "plan" is "accomplished".

I dunno. He claimed nilla last game and then went onto a weird tangent on politics idk

UltimaterializerX posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Corrik, because fuck this dumb Ulti spam

What do you think of Ulti's role?

It's more when I claimed it and why. Mafia has literally zero reason to claim that role on day one with no pressure.

You yourself said I'm town unless Chris is on a safe list. That doesn't change just because I happened to catch a troll player rolling mafia in this game. I live to get under the skin of the mafia teams and annoy them to death. Ever think that maybe I claimed early to bait bad scum into exposing themselves?

The mafia can't kill me at night. Why do you think Corrik (and possibly IGCD, though he may just be off the mark here) wants me lynched so badly? He knows his team can't touch me. =)

Yeah but it would have been better to not claim and maybe have them waste a night action or something who knows

(Though actually I have my own thoughts right now)
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VeryInsane posted...

Corrik posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Corrik, because fuck this dumb Ulti spam

What do you think of Ulti's role?

Pretty sure he claimed his real role. Just not his real alignment. I mean, it is a safe day 1 claim. It is not a very popular town role. Commuter is the only thing that possibly could counter claim it, but it isn't damning even if countered. And, the role cannot really be found to be a fraud until the game's setup is revealed.

Which, Ulti has shown last game as scum he does things at times with the "intention" to be lynched say "Day 2". So it could be just a claim where he intends to die later and either bait out claims or avoid scans in the mean time until his "plan" is "accomplished".

I dunno. He claimed nilla last game and then went onto a weird tangent on politics idk

UltimaterializerX posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Corrik, because fuck this dumb Ulti spam

What do you think of Ulti's role?

It's more when I claimed it and why. Mafia has literally zero reason to claim that role on day one with no pressure.

You yourself said I'm town unless Chris is on a safe list. That doesn't change just because I happened to catch a troll player rolling mafia in this game. I live to get under the skin of the mafia teams and annoy them to death. Ever think that maybe I claimed early to bait bad scum into exposing themselves?

The mafia can't kill me at night. Why do you think Corrik (and possibly IGCD, though he may just be off the mark here) wants me lynched so badly? He knows his team can't touch me. =)

Yeah but it would have been better to not claim and maybe have them waste a night action or something who knows

(Though actually I have my own thoughts right now)

At this point it is wifom though on what his role is. Because if he is untargetable as scum, he wifomed people into acting into it to confirm or vice versa. I mean, his role as it is now is just a safe claim for scum to make here whether true or not.

I also have never seen an untargetable give back a roleblock message either, but it is possible I suppose.
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I did in the game I hosted

I think Ulti did in a game he hosted too (Melee had one I think?)
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VeryInsane posted...

I did in the game I hosted

I think Ulti did in a game he hosted too (Melee had one I think?)

Just never seen it.
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If Leo has endless double voting then he's town. So prove that as soon as you can leo.

Corrik and Ulti'a arguments are just making them both look scummy in my eyes. It feels like they're telling US "This guy Is so scum " as opposed to talking directly to each other
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UltimaterializerX posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

and possibly IGCD, though he may just be off the mark here) wants me lynched so badly?

I haven't even been pushing on you. I have no idea why you are trying to pull me in to you and corriks little drama.

Nah you're fine. Solid town read on you.

You would never, ever be stupid enough to come after me if you were mafia, because we've been on the same team now and I know for a fact you play scared when A+ power players are involved. You just defer to teammates about how to deal with them, which you have not done in this game. You are town.

Except I didn't do that at all in the last game where we were both scum. At no point did I attempt to get advice on how to deal with anyone, I was a rogue agent that used the safe claim puns wanted(and fucked it up lol.) I am really not a fan of your attempt to appeal to me as town right now. If you think it is in anyway going to help you, you are wrong.
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VI is there anyone you would want to give a more serious vote to if you had to right now? I only remember the poke vote on Leo and the boredom vote on Corrik from you, but there were probably others earlier
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I have pointed out why he is scum. I have also given you the scumtell in multiple previous games. Ulti's comments do not line up anywhere with his previous games.

Remember why he targeted me night 0 in FFCC? He tells you right there. Because I was the biggest threat to him in the game.

Yet here, I am such shitty as scum that it is obvious. Yadda yadda. I mean, I know none of you will take time to just see through this nonsense to verify anything.

However, his comments do not line up and are fabricated. And, his behavior lines up perfectly with scumtells I have accurately told you about for games upon games.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

If you think it is in anyway going to help you, you are wrong.

You mean when every good player in this game already knows I'm town? lol

Could all the players that believe Ulti is town please let me know why you think he is town.
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I want to point out Chris was here and did not make a comment at all when here about what was going on in the game. Scum would do that in my mind in the scenario.
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If Ulti is going to keep spamming the game repeatedly and trolling, then I am replacing out. I got better things to do.
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Corrik posted...

I want to point out Chris was here and did not make a comment at all when here about what was going on in the game. Scum would do that in my mind in the scenario.

Chris has been raiding for the past while <_<
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

I want to point out Chris was here and did not make a comment at all when here about what was going on in the game. Scum would do that in my mind in the scenario.

Chris has been raiding for the past while <_<

I thought I saw you post recently something unrelated.
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benjamin3740 posted...

VI is there anyone you would want to give a more serious vote to if you had to right now? I only remember the poke vote on Leo and the boredom vote on Corrik from you, but there were probably others earlier

eaedwards because I know he could try harder

...Or I want to believe he could
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

##unvote: Leo

Yeah I forgot about Kanz's minion for a moment there.

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