Board 8 > Mercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 3: Yuffie steals gravy's Create Mafia Topic ability.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Oh man Leo has been eaten by the grammar monster

D:
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VeryInsane posted...

Are you saying you think Scare and Johnbobb are Town or Vice-Versa

yeah I had the same question
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Off the top of my head he called IGCD and Ben 100% town when they said it made them think of scum scum fake tunneling
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VeryInsane posted...

Are you saying you think Scare and Johnbobb are Town or Vice-Versa

enough that I don't want to lynch them today, yeah
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I liked your list for the same reason you specified - "Explorable avenues for lynching today"
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##Vote: Shad

Time for the next on my list.

Shad who do you want to lynch today again? Is your vote on Corrik for annoyance or do you agree with Ulti?
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benjamin3740 posted...

##Vote: Shad

Time for the next on my list.

Shad who do you want to lynch today again? Is your vote on Corrik for annoyance or do you agree with Ulti?

Shad voted me way before any of that.
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Oh deadline is at 11pm. I'll be here for last hour of day or so then. Thought it was 9.
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Corrik posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

##Vote: Shad

Time for the next on my list.

Shad who do you want to lynch today again? Is your vote on Corrik for annoyance or do you agree with Ulti?

Shad voted me way before any of that.

yeah, but imo Ulti brings forth all the good reasons, if there any, to suspect you. So I'm wondering what Shad thinks of that if he still thinks you're Scum (I don't remember why he voted you)
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Leo3L posted...

Off the top of my head he called IGCD and Ben 100% town when they said it made them think of scum scum fake tunneling

Hm this makes Ben's approval of my list a little worrying

But I doubt both are scum. (I mean they could be on Gambit but as of now leaning no)
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VeryInsane posted...

Leo3L posted...

Off the top of my head he called IGCD and Ben 100% town when they said it made them think of scum scum fake tunneling

Hm this makes Ben's approval of my list a little worrying

But I doubt both are scum. (I mean they could be on Gambit but as of now leaning no)

I don't want to lynch either of them today. That's why I like your list. Still feel like there's a chance they're both Town, since I've seen clear signs of each scenario
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benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

##Vote: Shad

Time for the next on my list.

Shad who do you want to lynch today again? Is your vote on Corrik for annoyance or do you agree with Ulti?

Shad voted me way before any of that.

yeah, but imo Ulti brings forth all the good reasons, if there any, to suspect you. So I'm wondering what Shad thinks of that if he still thinks you're Scum (I don't remember why he voted you)

Ulti brings exactly zero reasons forward and is chock full of contradictions which have been laid out and pointed to where they are shown.

Ulti's argument if there ever even really is one (someone voted for me must be scum lol) is fabricated.
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Catching up

Corrik posted...

Claiming Cop as Cop for me is safe. No one will believe it and lets me get my scans off.

What? If your Cop claim is obviously fake, what's the purpose?

And what if the real Town Cop counters you?

htaeD posted...

I suppose Corrik and Ben are here and make a good enough audience

PJBasis, TOWN Vanilla

flavor basically says PJ wasnt very memorable in Mercs 4

when Ben claimed PJ, I even considered flavorclaiming then and there. but since he was joking, (obviously to me), no counter was needed
and if I flavorclaimed, my role would be obviously not something major
I foolishly thought maybe I could get away with looking like townpower on day1 and draw a NK, and that failed quickly

and later when I started questioning Bens knowledge, it was not me thinking he drew PJbasis from a safelist
and more wondering whether someone else told him about PJ being a player in Mercs4 for some reason
I already admitted my line of thought here was rather useless

When Ben first claimed I thought it was Gravy making a funny safelist option, and you responded to me so I'll have to go back and check your reaction, but this makes sense (and also makes me disappointed in JC quitting for getting vanilla).
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

htaeD posted...

Im gonna need a lot more coffee before I dive into this UltiCorrik mess
but I can say that I dont like IGCDs apparent desire to set up two lynches in a row

So, you are going to throw shade on me for thinking they are both scum before even getting in to the situation?

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eaedwards6400 posted...

htaeD posted...

also I am reminded of another thing that still bugs me, despite everything, about you Ben
the 'I will scan as town'

Wouldn't town just say something along the lines of I'm town. Not scan as town?

I think there's something to it. The wording is super weird, who says that?

It's been awhile since we played, but i remember Ben
liked to sneak things into his posts,and then later point to them and be like ";) I dropped hints"
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Well he did claim miller originally, so in context it makes sense since his joke was he'd scan as scum.
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Johnbobb posted...

Really not feeling all these people on Ben, who so far doesn't really strike me any sort of way. Leo is probably town so I feel like there's scum among the rest

Care to elaborate on any of this?

Ben doesn't seem scum, or Town.

Leo seems Town.

So the rest are scum?

What
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Something is really bugging me.

##unvote
##vote: Death

He asked, "when does scum ever replace before a game starts?".

Oh I don't know, one game ago when Spiral replaced before the game started? A GAME DEATH WAS IN??
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

-MZero's vote on Leo is pretty strongly scummy. Don't like it at all. Feels wagony.

Dude you literally just posted votals (twice) and somehow think I voted Leo when I didn't >_>
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Corrik posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

##Vote: Shad

Time for the next on my list.

Shad who do you want to lynch today again? Is your vote on Corrik for annoyance or do you agree with Ulti?

Shad voted me way before any of that.

yeah, but imo Ulti brings forth all the good reasons, if there any, to suspect you. So I'm wondering what Shad thinks of that if he still thinks you're Scum (I don't remember why he voted you)

Ulti brings exactly zero reasons forward and is chock full of contradictions which have been laid out and pointed to where they are shown.

Ulti's argument if there ever even really is one (someone voted for me must be scum lol) is fabricated.

I think a better reason you're probably town is the entire game stopped posting when we were arguing. You as town makes a lot more sense, because during peak hours people were willing to watch this game hang itself. Occulam's Razor says we're two town players arguing over nothing.
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Can I just say is peak hours in mafia really like 1 AM est <_<
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

htaeD posted...

Im gonna need a lot more coffee before I dive into this UltiCorrik mess
but I can say that I dont like IGCDs apparent desire to set up two lynches in a row

So, you are going to throw shade on me for thinking they are both scum before even getting in to the situation?

its a thing I dont like in general
and I still havent found the time to delve into that topic yet, will have to do that after dinner
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UItimaterializer posted...

Something is really bugging me.

##unvote
##vote: Death

He asked, "when does scum ever replace before a game starts?".

Oh I don't know, one game ago when Spiral replaced before the game started? A GAME DEATH WAS IN??

I thought he was just asking me how often I'D seen it. Unless I missed a different styatement of his
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UItimaterializer posted...

Something is really bugging me.

##unvote
##vote: Death

He asked, "when does scum ever replace before a game starts?".

Oh I don't know, one game ago when Spiral replaced before the game started? A GAME DEATH WAS IN??

I died Night1, I didnt really keep track of who replaced what after that
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Johnbobb posted...

Scare I STILL mix up with Shad, always. And they're always in the same game. It's frustrating. I'd honestly need to read back to try and differentiate who said what

Mzero I don't remember much from (along with Tony and eaadaead) so I'm leaning scum for him.

Is this actually a thing? I don't remember you mixing them up being a thing.

And I can't remember the specifics (I need to re-read through atopic 2), but I feel like MZero posted a lot. Or at least I remember some meaty posts.

htaeD posted...

Tony is probably the most egregious of the lesser actives to me

Of all people to say this?

Death, you are LITERALLY the person I said yesterday was my anniversary to?

Johnbobb posted...

htaeD posted...

##Vote: Tony

In fact
not a single post all of topic2 makes this worth it

yeah I can get behind that

##Vote: Tony

takes a constant effort to be less helpful than I am

<_< This is too obvious.
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heck I didnt even remember Ben being in that game, or half the playerlist
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Death, you are LITERALLY the person I said yesterday was my anniversary to?

then I underestimated just how much time it would take up
it was primarily a 'I want Tony here' vote anyway
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Death, spiral replaced before the game started.
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I equipped my Marie with Barstonra, Winter Ward (which is so awesome for her), and Hydaelyn Guard.

Just need her TM and she is the ultimate anti-elementalist, lol.
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WTF I literally just posted in the FFBE topic, how did my second post get here <_<
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Caught up. Man why do you guys post so much when I'm sleeping ._.

##Unvote: Ben

I really just wanted to pressure him a bit and see how he handled it. He kept his composure and hasn't stopped scumhunting despite having the most votes. Scum tends to panic when pressured and make all their posts about defending themselves but he's going out there.

Ulti and Corrik are probably both town. If I had to lynch one it'd be Ulti though for posting that same crap 300 times though.

Death I feel better about after that claim as well. I can see why he was so interested in Ben's claim despite knowing it was a joke now.

Kanz I still don't like too much. I feel like his vote on me was pretty weak especially because he accused me of wagoning on Leo (false) and also said it was the second time I did it (also false). My only votes have been on Kanz when he was at 0 and Ben when he was at 1, which was more of a pressure vote than anything because Kanz wasn't around. Pretty sure he's scum, and I think Johnbobb is his buddy. He voted him for inactivity and unvoted him despite the fact that he still hasn't contributed much of anything

##Vote: Kanz

Back to this!
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UItimaterializer posted...

Death, spiral replaced before the game started.

what I am saying is
once I died, I kinda lost track of most of what happened in the game and before that
so I didnt remember that Spiral replaced out before the game or who he replaced, and that that player replaced later turned out to be scum
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UItimaterializer posted...

I think a better reason you're probably town is the entire game stopped posting when we were arguing. You as town makes a lot more sense, because during peak hours people were willing to watch this game hang itself. Occulam's Razor says we're two town players arguing over nothing

So, you want to back pedal that entire waste of time?
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Oh nice, Arti volunteered to co-host

Are votals needed?
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VeryInsane posted...

Meanwhile only reason I have for disliking Ulti is when he PMed me this a year ago when he did the dumb repeat thing

(the strategy here is town hates tunnel-fights and usually doesn't lynch either guy crapping on one another, but you're the host so I'll listen! <3)

LMAO


benjamin3740 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

May be a while until she gives it back.

5. JohnBobb
9. Tony
10. Eaed
12. Scare
13. Jaded_Eye
15. Chris
16. Shad
17. Lopen

Avenues I am considering exploring today. Feeling better about Death, Leo is double voter.

I like that list minus Scare and Johnbob.

What about Johnbob takes him off the list for you?
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greengravy294 posted...

Oh nice, Arti volunteered to co-host

Are votals needed?

yes

yes please
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

UItimaterializer posted...

I think a better reason you're probably town is the entire game stopped posting when we were arguing. You as town makes a lot more sense, because during peak hours people were willing to watch this game hang itself. Occulam's Razor says we're two town players arguing over nothing

So, you want to back pedal that entire waste of time?

I missed this post earlier but didn't Ulti post "100% scum" like a billion times and now he's saying the most likely explanation is they're both Town? >_>
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Is this actually a thing? I don't remember you mixing them up being a thing.

literally every game
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MZero11 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UItimaterializer posted...

I think a better reason you're probably town is the entire game stopped posting when we were arguing. You as town makes a lot more sense, because during peak hours people were willing to watch this game hang itself. Occulam's Razor says we're two town players arguing over nothing

So, you want to back pedal that entire waste of time?

I missed this post earlier but didn't Ulti post "100% scum" like a billion times and now he's saying the most likely explanation is they're both Town? >_>

ha

hahahaha
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MZero11 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UItimaterializer posted...

I think a better reason you're probably town is the entire game stopped posting when we were arguing. You as town makes a lot more sense, because during peak hours people were willing to watch this game hang itself. Occulam's Razor says we're two town players arguing over nothing

So, you want to back pedal that entire waste of time?

I missed this post earlier but didn't Ulti post "100% scum" like a billion times and now he's saying the most likely explanation is they're both Town? >_>

Yep. It certainly is irritating that ulti and corrik would try so hard to kill activity just to have ulti try and turn around and claim them both town.
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@Chris the only reason I am confident in my reads in ulti and corrik being scum is that they are both pointing out each others scum tells, they purposefully tried to kill activity, they are both grand standing show boaters, and I have seen them scum enough to know they have no problem bussing.
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let's compromise: votals as of the end of last topic!

[4] Ben: (Ulti), Scare, mzero, Leo, Leo2
[3] Ulti: (IGCD), Corrik, Lopen, IGCD
[3] death: (chris), Ben, Chris, VI
[2] MZero: (Oddity), Kanz, Oddity
[2] Corrik: Shad, (vi), Ulti
[1] Johnbobb: (Kanz), Tony
[0] IGCD: (Ulti), (oddity)
[0] Oddity: )Lopen)
[0] Chris: (Corrik)
[0] Kan: (MZero)
[0] Leo: (VI), (ben), (death), (Oddity), (chris)
[0] Lopen: (God), (Oddity), (Ulti), (Chris)
[0] VI: (Ulti), (Ulti), (Oddity), (Oddity)
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MZero11 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UItimaterializer posted...

I think a better reason you're probably town is the entire game stopped posting when we were arguing. You as town makes a lot more sense, because during peak hours people were willing to watch this game hang itself. Occulam's Razor says we're two town players arguing over nothing

So, you want to back pedal that entire waste of time?

I missed this post earlier but didn't Ulti post "100% scum" like a billion times and now he's saying the most likely explanation is they're both Town? >_>

Welcome to scum Ulti.
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Thinking on it I think I am coming around to scum ulti
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

@Chris the only reason I am confident in my reads in ulti and corrik being scum is that they are both pointing out each others scum tells, they purposefully tried to kill activity, they are both grand standing show boaters, and I have seen them scum enough to know they have no problem bussing.

1. I have no scum tells and it has been proven he was fabricating his entire argument.

2. Posting is not killing activity. It is spurring activity. You are literally harping Ulti's bad argument twice now.

3. There is no showboating. I pointed out why Ulti is scum with reasoning, past evidence, and clear patterns exhibited in this game. If you had listened to me last game, we would not have mislynched town power last game day 1.

4. You said Ulti is pointing out my scumtell which is "I tunnel town as scum" then are saying we are bussing each other. So, either the "tell" is something you know is not true from the start which undermines your earlier part of the post or you are contradicting yourself.



IGCD's entire post here is harped from Ulti himself or a contradiction. Not a town post.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Thinking on it I think I am coming around to scum ulti

If I had to pick one of them to be scum, then it'd definitely be him. Didn't like his post calling me 100% town and being all "This guy gets it!" when I called him and Corrik's arguing scummy. Seems like he wanted me to latch onto thinking Corrik is scummy, while buttering me up to get me on his side.
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benjamin3740 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Thinking on it I think I am coming around to scum ulti

If I had to pick one of them to be scum, then it'd definitely be him. Didn't like his post calling me 100% town and being all "This guy gets it!" when I called him and Corrik's arguing scummy. Seems like he wanted me to latch onto thinking Corrik is scummy, while buttering me up to get me on his side.

Like, I said. He appealed to about half the game right after.
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end this page so i can post votals
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one more
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[3] Ben: (Ulti), Scare, (mzero), Leo, Leo2
[3] Ulti: (IGCD), Corrik, Lopen, IGCD
[2] MZero: (Oddity), Kanz, Oddity
[2] Corrik: Shad, (vi), Ulti
[2] Tony: Death, Johnbobb
[1] Johnbobb: (Kanz), Tony
[1] Shaduln: Ben
[1] Kan: (MZero), MZero
[0] death: (chris), (Ben), (Chris), (VI)
[0] IGCD: (Ulti), (oddity)
[0] Oddity: (Lopen)
[0] Chris: (Corrik)
[0] Leo: (VI), (ben), (death), (Oddity), (chris)
[0] Lopen: (God), (Oddity), (Ulti), (Chris)
[0] VI: (Ulti), (Ulti), (Oddity), (Oddity)