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Forceful_Dragon 03/03/24 7:07:47 PM #301:	Kirby321 posted... Maybe, but we keep talking about scum who are trying to lay low and play safely. I'm not going to say a risky play from scum Ulti is impossible, but let's start simple before we start going down the rabbit holes. I don't think that IS a rabbit hole though? We're talking about a playstyle change that occurred after day 1. It's entirely possible and maybe even probable that the remaining scum would have to dramatically change things up and make a big risk for a big potential payout. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:979169858] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>Maybe, but we keep talking about scum who are trying to lay low and play safely. I'm not going to say a risky play from scum Ulti is impossible, but let's start simple before we start going down the rabbit holes.</quote>I don't think that IS a rabbit hole though? We're talking about a playstyle change that occurred after day 1. It's entirely possible and maybe even probable that the remaining scum would have to dramatically change things up and make a big risk for a big potential payout. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 7:18:33 PM #302:	TheSultanOfSlam posted... I didn't know Chris was Prosty??? I thought I was fighting for my life in a chat. You still on Protys godfather?? what? Im saying good scum always plays around potential tracking/scanning roles. this is not difficult --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979170016] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>TheSultanOfSlam posted... </cite><quote>I didn't know Chris was Prosty??? I thought I was fighting for my life in a chat. You still on Protys godfather??</quote>what?Im saying good scum always plays around potential tracking/scanning roles. this is not difficult </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/03/24 7:22:55 PM #303:	Chaeix posted... what? Im saying good scum always plays around potential tracking/scanning roles. this is not difficult So I knew that Chris was going to scan me?? Or in general I knew I was going to get tracked? Like this is a bit far fetched I had suspicion on me but like I assume both scum have to move right? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:979170095] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>what?Im saying good scum always plays around potential tracking/scanning roles. this is not difficult</quote>So I knew that Chris was going to scan me?? Or in general I knew I was going to get tracked? Like this is a bit far fetched I had suspicion on me but like I assume both scum have to move right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 03/03/24 7:25:00 PM #304:	TheSultanOfSlam posted... So I knew that Chris was going to scan me?? Or in general I knew I was going to get tracked? Like this is a bit far fetched I had suspicion on me but like I assume both scum have to move right? Rules confirm that a single scum can do an action *and* send the NK. So you could have opted to not use your action out of an abundance of caution since you had the heat on you if you're scum. It tracks. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:979170134] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>TheSultanOfSlam posted... </cite><quote>So I knew that Chris was going to scan me?? Or in general I knew I was going to get tracked? Like this is a bit far fetched I had suspicion on me but like I assume both scum have to move right?</quote>Rules confirm that a single scum can do an action and send the NK. So you could have opted to not use your action out of an abundance of caution since you had the heat on you if you're scum. It tracks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 03/03/24 7:31:14 PM #305:	I'd still prefer to start with someone who wasn't confirmed to have not moved last night, but let's not pretend like it's crazy for a scum to choose to not move. It's not like we just had a game where scum ulti opted not to move 4 nights in a row. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:979170226] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>I'd still prefer to start with someone who wasn't confirmed to have not moved last night, but let's not pretend like it's crazy for a scum to choose to not move.It's not like we just had a game where scum ulti opted not to move 4 nights in a row. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/03/24 7:34:48 PM #306:	Forceful_Dragon posted... Rules confirm that a single scum can do an action *and* send the NK. So you could have opted to not use your action out of an abundance of caution since you had the heat on you if you're scum. It tracks. I mean that is fair but alot iff --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:979170274] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Forceful_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>Rules confirm that a single scum can do an action and send the NK. So you could have opted to not use your action out of an abundance of caution since you had the heat on you if you're scum. It tracks.</quote>I mean that is fair but alot iff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/03/24 7:46:41 PM #307:	Can we get a date list? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:979170486] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Can we get a date list? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 7:50:46 PM #308:	Unofficial Paired Ulti and Mzero Lopen and Sultan Exes Kirby and Sir Chris Open Offers Isquen: JC, Mzero FD: Sir Chris, Lopen Kirby: FD, Mzero --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979170550] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>UnofficialPairedUlti and MzeroLopen and SultanExesKirby and Sir ChrisOpen OffersIsquen: JC, MzeroFD: Sir Chris, LopenKirby: FD, Mzero </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 7:53:50 PM #309:	can someone remind me of the case for why isquen is town? i feel incredibly neutral about him like say i'm correct about sultan being scum. what is keeping isquen from being the scum that sent in the NK after lopen claimed gambler in their chat? --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979170603] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>can someone remind me of the case for why isquen is town? i feel incredibly neutral about himlike say i'm correct about sultan being scum. what is keeping isquen from being the scum that sent in the NK after lopen claimed gambler in their chat? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 7:55:14 PM #310:	T7 p249 Lopen posted... I'm going to now explain why I think Isquen is lock town and hopefully that will convince people that 1. He is town 2. I am town I went into the night letting Isquen share suspicions. He said his reads were currently all the same and that Dumey was his number one suspect. He opened with the same thing that weirded Corrik out saying we should wait till 2 hours before deadline for anything important I made a crack about "oh yeah if you say something big I might have scum kill you instead of the cop" So then I shared some more suspicions. I had to argue with him that Chris was probably not GF because miller + gf in this setup would make the scanners garbage since the scans are already amambiguous. I had to argue with him that Corrik was town because to claim backup scanner blind and name the exact mechanic is ridiculous. He had not talked that much at this point. Was a few hours in. He said he was going to sleep. Like an hour later I said I was losing conviction he was town since I figured he would talk more if he was really mad Corrik didn't say anything. I then claimed Gambit, Town Gambler. I said my ability was to redirect the night kill to the person I was in the room with once per game and if I redirected to town I would be unable to issue date requests the next day. I told him I was going to 100% use it tonight and I had decided to do this because. 1. I was not 100% sure he was town. 2. We were the big mislynches left on the table. 3. To gain another cop scan. Isquen in the morning claimed his role to me (Travis Kelce, Vanilla), but said he guessed that was OK since it was saving the cop. He expressed some doubt over whether I was telling the truth but seemed to believe it in the end. He then went into a few stages of theorizing scum setups and whether Id necessarily be saving the cop, and eventually coming to the conclusion that they'd probably shoot Chris roleblock Red if Chris wasn't scum and so signed off on my decision and said it made sense. He then worked with me through scum hunting and we were thinking Dumey + Sultan/Ulti/Mzero/JC, with Sultan seeming most likely. I will say in honor of Lea's Death Ive decided to just give Kirby the benefit of a doubt going forward and not push his lynch. I then after action deadline told him I was Boa Hancock vanilla and that hopefully there were no hard feelings Overall his reaction to my claim (appear to believe it, work through whether it made sense to redirect to him, willingness to continue scumhunting, and the fact that Red was killed and not roleblocked with me being killed. I also quite liked that I had to argue with him about Chris and Corrik despite the obvious thing being to believe they are town. So yeah I don't think Isquen's Sense Motive or Bluff are that high and going forward I'd rather be lynched than him if it comes down to that (since at least you might believe he's town if I'm dead) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979170620] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>T7 p249<quote> Lopen posted... I'm going to now explain why I think Isquen is lock town and hopefully that will convince people that 1. He is town2. I am townI went into the night letting Isquen share suspicions. He said his reads were currently all the same and that Dumey was his number one suspect. He opened with the same thing that weirded Corrik out saying we should wait till 2 hours before deadline for anything importantI made a crack about "oh yeah if you say something big I might have scum kill you instead of the cop"So then I shared some more suspicions. I had to argue with him that Chris was probably not GF because miller + gf in this setup would make the scanners garbage since the scans are already amambiguous. I had to argue with him that Corrik was town because to claim backup scanner blind and name the exact mechanic is ridiculous. He had not talked that much at this point. Was a few hours in.He said he was going to sleep. Like an hour later I said I was losing conviction he was town since I figured he would talk more if he was really mad Corrik didn't say anything. I then claimed Gambit, Town Gambler. I said my ability was to redirect the night kill to the person I was in the room with once per game and if I redirected to town I would be unable to issue date requests the next day. I told him I was going to 100% use it tonight and I had decided to do this because. 1. I was not 100% sure he was town. 2. We were the big mislynches left on the table. 3. To gain another cop scan. Isquen in the morning claimed his role to me (Travis Kelce, Vanilla), but said he guessed that was OK since it was saving the cop. He expressed some doubt over whether I was telling the truth but seemed to believe it in the end. He then went into a few stages of theorizing scum setups and whether Id necessarily be saving the cop, and eventually coming to the conclusion that they'd probably shoot Chris roleblock Red if Chris wasn't scum and so signed off on my decision and said it made sense. He then worked with me through scum hunting and we were thinking Dumey + Sultan/Ulti/Mzero/JC, with Sultan seeming most likely. I will say in honor of Lea's Death Ive decided to just give Kirby the benefit of a doubt going forward and not push his lynch. I then after action deadline told him I was Boa Hancock vanilla and that hopefully there were no hard feelingsOverall his reaction to my claim (appear to believe it, work through whether it made sense to redirect to him, willingness to continue scumhunting, and the fact that Red was killed and not roleblocked with me being killed. I also quite liked that I had to argue with him about Chris and Corrik despite the obvious thing being to believe they are town. So yeah I don't think Isquen's Sense Motive or Bluff are that high and going forward I'd rather be lynched than him if it comes down to that (since at least you might believe he's town if I'm dead)</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 7:56:23 PM #311:	Chaeix posted... what is keeping isquen from being the scum that sent in the NK after lopen claimed gambler in their chat? ? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979170642] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>what is keeping isquen from being the scum that sent in the NK after lopen claimed gambler in their chat?</quote>? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 7:57:03 PM #312:	Lopen posted... T7 p249 well that's certainly enough for me to feel 'not bad' about him, thanks. I like the reaction to the claim --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979170654] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>T7 p249</quote>well that's certainly enough for me to feel 'not bad' about him, thanks. I like the reaction to the claim </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 7:57:28 PM #313:	Lopen posted... ? if isquen knew you weren't a scanning role, he could send the NK safely one way or the other --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979170664] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>?</quote>if isquen knew you weren't a scanning role, he could send the NK safely one way or the other </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 03/03/24 7:57:31 PM #314:	Chaeix posted... can someone remind me of the case for why isquen is town? i feel incredibly neutral about him like say i'm correct about sultan being scum. what is keeping isquen from being the scum that sent in the NK after lopen claimed gambler in their chat? Currently the entire case against seems to be because Lopen claimed Gambler and Isquen didn't completely fall apart. I said earlier that was probably good enough to look elsewhere today, but if my preferred choices aren't available (Ulti and MZero are still paired with each other) then my next choices would be Sultan or Isquen. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:979170666] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>can someone remind me of the case for why isquen is town? i feel incredibly neutral about himlike say i'm correct about sultan being scum. what is keeping isquen from being the scum that sent in the NK after lopen claimed gambler in their chat?</quote>Currently the entire case against seems to be because Lopen claimed Gambler and Isquen didn't completely fall apart.I said earlier that was probably good enough to look elsewhere today, but if my preferred choices aren't available (Ulti and MZero are still paired with each other) then my next choices would be Sultan or Isquen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 8:03:18 PM #315:	Lopen: I'm Gambit, Town Gambler. Once per game I can redirect the night kill to the person I'm in the room with. If I redirect to town I can't date the next day. Lopen: I'm thinking it might be smart to just use it tonight but because Corrik is backup I could wait till next night. Lopen: Fails if my room is targeted with the night kill-- not that scum is going to kill either of us tonight Lopen: I'm like 80% sure you're town but if you could put me the last 20% that would be great. You complaining so much about Corrik and not really having a lot to say except when I'm drawing it out of you is making me a bit uneasy. I just want to clarify and I'll stop posting new content again. Scum could have countered it by killing me as written which was intended. Isquen talked through ideas of roleblocker etc (I did not mention a roleblocker-- I think scum wouldn't even go that way) and eventually said I should use it on him. It is possible he or his scumteam realized I was lying but it was super good acting if so. More than I'd expect out of him. Ok back to you. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979170735] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Lopen: I'm Gambit, Town Gambler. Once per game I can redirect the night kill to the person I'm in the room with. If I redirect to town I can't date the next day.Lopen: I'm thinking it might be smart to just use it tonight but because Corrik is backup I could wait till next night.Lopen: Fails if my room is targeted with the night kill-- not that scum is going to kill either of us tonightLopen: I'm like 80% sure you're town but if you could put me the last 20% that would be great. You complaining so much about Corrik and not really having a lot to say except when I'm drawing it out of you is making me a bit uneasy.I just want to clarify and I'll stop posting new content again.Scum could have countered it by killing me as written which was intended. Isquen talked through ideas of roleblocker etc (I did not mention a roleblocker-- I think scum wouldn't even go that way) and eventually said I should use it on him.It is possible he or his scumteam realized I was lying but it was super good acting if so. More than I'd expect out of him. Ok back to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 03/03/24 8:06:45 PM #318:	What a long day I've had. Anything new --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:979170776] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>What a long day I've had. Anything new </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 03/03/24 8:08:50 PM #320:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cddf779e.jpg --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979170815] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cddf779e.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 03/03/24 8:11:45 PM #321:	UltimaterializerX posted... I need a list of flavor claims changmas posted... This game consists of two teams, TOWN and SCUM. There is no flavor split (and anywhere from zero to perfect correlation between flavor and roles) - each persons flavor is simply a different person or character associated with dating in some way that I wanted to write about. As such, there are no roles that scan flavor in any way; it is purely for your (and my) enjoyment. changmas posted... You are Rosalina, Princess of the Cosmos and Mother of Lumas. You might ask yourselves why Rosalina is in this game given that shes not associated with love or dating. But its my game and Ill do what I want! For once I have not kept track of flavor claims and opted instead to keep track of "dating actions". --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:979170850] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>I need a list of flavor claims</quote><cite>changmas posted... </cite><quote>This game consists of two teams, TOWN and SCUM. There is no flavor split (and anywhere from zero to perfect correlation between flavor and roles) - each persons flavor is simply a different person or character associated with dating in some way that I wanted to write about. As such, there are no roles that scan flavor in any way; it is purely for your (and my) enjoyment.</quote><cite>changmas posted... </cite><quote>You are Rosalina, Princess of the Cosmos and Mother of Lumas. You might ask yourselves why Rosalina is in this game given that shes not associated with love or dating. But its my game and Ill do what I want!</quote>For once I have not kept track of flavor claims and opted instead to keep track of "dating actions". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 8:13:31 PM #322:	Yes I did pick a flavor that fits "love etc" and also gambler. My fake claims are actually good believe it or not. Ulti trying to write off an Isquen town read reeks of pathing mislynches through Isquen if he can flip me first. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979170874] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Yes I did pick a flavor that fits "love etc" and also gambler. My fake claims are actually good believe it or not. Ulti trying to write off an Isquen town read reeks of pathing mislynches through Isquen if he can flip me first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 03/03/24 8:20:33 PM #324:	Corrik7 posted... What a long day I've had. Anything new hi corrik chris claimed town prosty. sultan confirmed he got a host message that his roommate slept with him. we've agreed to call a ceasefire on chris because he's confirmable and (at least i think) it doesn't seem to make sense for scum to have both vanilla scanner and scum prosty. lopen wanted to kill scum godfather prosty chris for a while. we all mellowed out a little and agreed to kill sultan instead. ulti and mzero vetoed sultan kill because chris green checked him. now we're running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to figure out if we can kill lopen or kirby or me or something. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:979170969] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite><quote>What a long day I've had. Anything new</quote>hi corrikchris claimed town prosty.sultan confirmed he got a host message that his roommate slept with him.we've agreed to call a ceasefire on chris because he's confirmable and (at least i think) it doesn't seem to make sense for scum to have both vanilla scanner and scum prosty.lopen wanted to kill scum godfather prosty chris for a while.we all mellowed out a little and agreed to kill sultan instead. ulti and mzero vetoed sultan kill because chris green checked him.now we're running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to figure out if we can kill lopen or kirby or me or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 03/03/24 8:22:03 PM #325:	EDumey posted... ulti and mzero vetoed sultan kill because chris green checked him. I don't understand this part. Ulti and MZero are currently dating each other, and not Sultan. Lopen is dating Sultan. everything else seems effectively accurate. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:979171004] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>ulti and mzero vetoed sultan kill because chris green checked him.</quote>I don't understand this part.Ulti and MZero are currently dating each other, and not Sultan. Lopen is dating Sultan.everything else seems effectively accurate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 03/03/24 8:25:49 PM #326:	SirChris posted... this game: I'm just lost on how to talk to someone who keeps going in circles about godfather prosty in a way that doesnt hurt my brain. you could start by answering why you didn't try to date claimed vanillas as a town prosty and instead went for unclaimeds also earlier in this game to both Dumey (I think) and myself when we defended ourselves against you were like "why are you mad it's not like I can kill you lol" so the fact that you're acting like this when no one is going to let you die anyway is pretty ironic --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame <cite>MZero posted [p:979171076] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>SirChris posted... </cite><quote>this game: I'm just lost on how to talk to someone who keeps going in circles about godfather prosty in a way that doesnt hurt my brain.</quote>you could start by answering why you didn't try to date claimed vanillas as a town prosty and instead went for unclaimedsalso earlier in this game to both Dumey (I think) and myself when we defended ourselves against you were like "why are you mad it's not like I can kill you lol" so the fact that you're acting like this when no one is going to let you die anyway is pretty ironic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/03/24 8:26:00 PM #327:	UltimaterializerX posted... FD or the host, I need a list of flavor claims and flow charts. Thanks. Uh from what I'm gathering from opening post flavor don't matter "This game consists of two teams, TOWN and SCUM. There is no flavor split (and anywhere from zero to perfect correlation between flavor and roles) - each persons flavor is simply a different person or character associated with dating in some way that I wanted to write about. As such, there are no roles that scan flavor in any way; it is purely for your (and my) enjoyment. Additionally, you know with certainty that the setup is 3 scum players and 12 town players --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:979171080] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>FD or the host, I need a list of flavor claims and flow charts. Thanks.</quote>Uh from what I'm gathering from opening post flavor don't matter"This game consists of two teams, TOWN and SCUM. There is no flavor split (and anywhere from zero to perfect correlation between flavor and roles) - each persons flavor is simply a different person or character associated with dating in some way that I wanted to write about. As such, there are no roles that scan flavor in any way; it is purely for your (and my) enjoyment. Additionally, you know with certainty that the setup is 3 scum players and 12 town players </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 03/03/24 8:27:10 PM #328:	Forceful_Dragon posted... I don't understand this part. Ulti and MZero are currently dating each other, and not Sultan. Lopen is dating Sultan. everything else seems effectively accurate. you right. i did that from memory. looking back i think i misread this post when i skimmed over it and jumbled the names up. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80711281/979165375 --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:979171099] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Forceful_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>I don't understand this part.Ulti and MZero are currently dating each other, and not Sultan. Lopen is dating Sultan.everything else seems effectively accurate.</quote>you right. i did that from memory. looking back i think i misread this post when i skimmed over it and jumbled the names up.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80711281/979165375 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 8:30:14 PM #329:	I have this feeling Ulti is town playing as scummy as possible just so he can say "ha no one can read Ulti!!" and it's infuriating --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171171] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>I have this feeling Ulti is town playing as scummy as possible just so he can say "ha no one can read Ulti!!" and it's infuriating </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 8:34:26 PM #330:	Ulti's read have an honesty to how bad they are that's endearing Kirby has a smarmyness that makes his feel like he's just out to create bad lynches without actually calling people scum. To "get data" or "remove distractions" or whatever. Yes I'm posting again because Chris is just afking while I don't. Like he has been all game. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171237] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Ulti's read have an honesty to how bad they are that's endearingKirby has a smarmyness that makes his feel like he's just out to create bad lynches without actually calling people scum. To "get data" or "remove distractions" or whatever. Yes I'm posting again because Chris is just afking while I don't. Like he has been all game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/03/24 8:43:33 PM #331:	Lopen posted... Ulti's read have an honesty to how bad they are that's endearing Kirby has a smarmyness that makes his feel like he's just out to create bad lynches without actually calling people scum. To "get data" or "remove distractions" or whatever. Yes I'm posting again because Chris is just afking while I don't. Like he has been all game. Yeah idk man Chris got me confused as hell. Lady couple games he was very afk came on said some reads with little back ground. Then afk. He got the prosty and The Scan going for him. Idk nothing scummy in play but nothing overly town either --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:979171354] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>Ulti's read have an honesty to how bad they are that's endearingKirby has a smarmyness that makes his feel like he's just out to create bad lynches without actually calling people scum. To "get data" or "remove distractions" or whatever. Yes I'm posting again because Chris is just afking while I don't. Like he has been all game.</quote>Yeah idk man Chris got me confused as hell. Lady couple games he was very afk came on said some reads with little back ground. Then afk. He got the prosty and The Scan going for him. Idk nothing scummy in play but nothing overly town either </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 8:45:11 PM #332:	Gun to head with two day vigs to win the game. I shoot Kirby and Chris, tantrum be damned. Really dirty play if scum. Pretty dirty as town too but extra dirty as scum. I'm done arguing for it at the moment. I just want it on the record. I heavily want Kirby as the lynch today. Read his posts. Dude said the following today - I think we should (what???) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171389] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Gun to head with two day vigs to win the game. I shoot Kirby and Chris, tantrum be damned. Really dirty play if scum. Pretty dirty as town too but extra dirty as scum. I'm done arguing for it at the moment. I just want it on the record. I heavily want Kirby as the lynch today. Read his posts. Dude said the following today- I think we should (what???) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 8:46:44 PM #333:	- I think we should lynch town Sultan for data to confirm Chris is town prosty (what??) - I think we should lynch Lopen who is 100% town because he's annoying people. And yesterday - I think we should lynch red because he's playing anti town. Even if he's cop its worth it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171408] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>- I think we should lynch town Sultan for data to confirm Chris is town prosty (what??)- I think we should lynch Lopen who is 100% town because he's annoying people. And yesterday- I think we should lynch red because he's playing anti town. Even if he's cop its worth it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 03/03/24 8:53:07 PM #334:	EDumey posted... hi corrik chris claimed town prosty. sultan confirmed he got a host message that his roommate slept with him. we've agreed to call a ceasefire on chris because he's confirmable and (at least i think) it doesn't seem to make sense for scum to have both vanilla scanner and scum prosty. lopen wanted to kill scum godfather prosty chris for a while. we all mellowed out a little and agreed to kill sultan instead. ulti and mzero vetoed sultan kill because chris green checked him. now we're running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to figure out if we can kill lopen or kirby or me or something. Did Sultan get up --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:979171519] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>hi corrikchris claimed town prosty.sultan confirmed he got a host message that his roommate slept with him.we've agreed to call a ceasefire on chris because he's confirmable and (at least i think) it doesn't seem to make sense for scum to have both vanilla scanner and scum prosty.lopen wanted to kill scum godfather prosty chris for a while.we all mellowed out a little and agreed to kill sultan instead. ulti and mzero vetoed sultan kill because chris green checked him.now we're running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to figure out if we can kill lopen or kirby or me or something.</quote>Did Sultan get up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 03/03/24 8:54:04 PM #335:	Corrik7 posted... Did Sultan get up no --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:979171535] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite><quote>Did Sultan get up</quote>no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 8:54:48 PM #336:	Corrik7 posted... Did Sultan get up No Chris used this to say Sultan was town confirmed even though scum can double actions --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171550] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite><quote>Did Sultan get up</quote>NoChris used this to say Sultan was town confirmed even though scum can double actions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 8:59:46 PM #337:	Lopen posted... - I think we should lynch town Sultan for data to confirm Chris is town prosty (what??) - I think we should lynch Lopen who is 100% town because he's annoying people. And yesterday - I think we should lynch red because he's playing anti town. Even if he's cop its worth it. Lopen posted... - I think we should lynch town Sultan for data to confirm Chris is town prosty (what??) - I think we should lynch Lopen who is 100% town because he's annoying people. And yesterday - I think we should lynch red because he's playing anti town. Even if he's cop its worth it. PeaceFrog posted... I got to keep Kirby alive so that's one positive i guess I can't disagree those are interesting statements. I went back to get the post that has been nagging me since end of day 1 and found this post quoted above - t3p352. I'm struggling to find the context for what Peaf meant by this? PeaceFrog posted... There is no reaction gif that could accurately capture my emotional state right now this is the post that was nagging me. it's been tucked away corner of my brain since the end of d1, even though it was before peaf claimed. t3p314. i didn't bring it up yesterday because i didn't want to add more conjecture to the eod d1 dumpster fire of a discussion last day. it's been sitting in the back of my brain saying 'peaf basically said out loud that something went wrong - but what?'. whether it has an implication for kirby i'm not sure but it's the only thing keeping the door open for EoD d1ers possibly being scumbuddies with peaf in my brain. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979171623] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>- I think we should lynch town Sultan for data to confirm Chris is town prosty (what??)- I think we should lynch Lopen who is 100% town because he's annoying people. And yesterday- I think we should lynch red because he's playing anti town. Even if he's cop its worth it.</quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>- I think we should lynch town Sultan for data to confirm Chris is town prosty (what??)- I think we should lynch Lopen who is 100% town because he's annoying people. And yesterday- I think we should lynch red because he's playing anti town. Even if he's cop its worth it.</quote><cite>PeaceFrog posted... </cite><quote>I got to keep Kirby alive so that's one positive i guess</quote>I can't disagree those are interesting statements. I went back to get the post that has been nagging me since end of day 1 and found this post quoted above - t3p352. I'm struggling to find the context for what Peaf meant by this?<cite>PeaceFrog posted... </cite><quote>There is no reaction gif that could accurately capture my emotional state right now</quote>this is the post that was nagging me. it's been tucked away corner of my brain since the end of d1, even though it was before peaf claimed. t3p314. i didn't bring it up yesterday because i didn't want to add more conjecture to the eod d1 dumpster fire of a discussion last day. it's been sitting in the back of my brain saying 'peaf basically said out loud that something went wrong - but what?'. whether it has an implication for kirby i'm not sure but it's the only thing keeping the door open for EoD d1ers possibly being scumbuddies with peaf in my brain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 03/03/24 9:06:19 PM #338:	Wait, Sultan isn't dating anyone? I was under the impression he was being kept safe by Ulti. Huh. Okay, that's actually awesome. Now we can make a productive lynch --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:979171724] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Wait, Sultan isn't dating anyone? I was under the impression he was being kept safe by Ulti. Huh. Okay, that's actually awesome. Now we can make a productive lynch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 9:06:55 PM #339:	I feel like they wanted to mislynch you by having Peaf date Kirby since you had a date open to Kirby at the time Then FD broke up suddenly and offered a date to Kirby and it would have looked really bad for Kirby to not date him given how hard he wanted to date FD earlier that day. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171735] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>I feel like they wanted to mislynch you by having Peaf date Kirby since you had a date open to Kirby at the timeThen FD broke up suddenly and offered a date to Kirby and it would have looked really bad for Kirby to not date him given how hard he wanted to date FD earlier that day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 9:10:25 PM #340:	Lopen posted... I feel like they wanted to mislynch you by having Peaf date Kirby since you had a date open to Kirby at the time Then FD broke up suddenly and offered a date to Kirby and it would have looked really bad for Kirby to not date him given how hard he wanted to date FD earlier that day. but kirby dated lea, not FD --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979171774] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>I feel like they wanted to mislynch you by having Peaf date Kirby since you had a date open to Kirby at the timeThen FD broke up suddenly and offered a date to Kirby and it would have looked really bad for Kirby to not date him given how hard he wanted to date FD earlier that day.</quote>but kirby dated lea, not FD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 9:10:54 PM #341:	oh wait no you dated lea --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979171782] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>oh wait no you dated lea </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 9:11:28 PM #342:	Or mislynch Dumey. Here is the table. Lea (date req to Kirby) Kirby Peaf (date req to Kirby) JC (date req to Kirby) Dumey Kirby accepts Lea and immediately breaks up BEFORE he sees FD has broke up with me --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171791] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Or mislynch Dumey. Here is the table. Lea (date req to Kirby)Kirby Peaf (date req to Kirby)JC (date req to Kirby)DumeyKirby accepts Lea and immediately breaks up BEFORE he sees FD has broke up with me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 9:12:47 PM #343:	Sequence is this FD breaks up, extends date to Kirby Kirby accepts Lea then immediately breaks it. Then says "FD!!!" I date Lea Kirby dates FD JC dates Dumey --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171823] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Sequence is thisFD breaks up, extends date to KirbyKirby accepts Lea then immediately breaks it. Then says "FD!!!"I date LeaKirby dates FDJC dates Dumey </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 9:13:59 PM #344:	Note he doesn't mention FD in the initial post-- the break up with Lea is in the same post-- if FD isn't there to win his love, what's the logical conclusion Date Peaf Leaving Dumey Lea and JC in the pool --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171855] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Note he doesn't mention FD in the initial post-- the break up with Lea is in the same post-- if FD isn't there to win his love, what's the logical conclusionDate PeafLeaving Dumey Lea and JC in the pool </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 03/03/24 9:14:53 PM #345:	Chaeix posted... I can't disagree those are interesting statements. I went back to get the post that has been nagging me since end of day 1 and found this post quoted above - t3p352. I'm struggling to find the context for what Peaf meant by this? Whoa hold on Lopen is completely misconstruing what I said I said we should lynch Sultan because he's been very inconsistent with his reads this game. Look no further than the start of Topic 6. Lea said it was weird. Red said it was weird. Everyone thinks it's weird. Lopen is hung up on one thing I said about lynching Sultan informing us about Chris's alignment, which, in hindsight, was maybe not the most logical argument. But my suspicions on Sultan were founded upon his erratic reads and lack of consistency with them + his interactions with MZero today where he gave subpar answers to all of the contradictions MZero pointed out. As for Red, when I said he was being anti-town yesterday, I meant it, but that was before he had claimed and I had to choose between saving him or saving Lea. And the answer was pretty damn obvious to me given that all Red had really contributed at the time was just #date-ing everybody first thing into the day, which actively worked against town's ability to lynch scum. Now, I did say he should die anyway even after claiming Cop, but that was said in a fit of rage, and I ultimately didn't act on it. Quite frankly, Lea died for extremely stupid reasons yesterday and was a very level-headed townie. So now I'm looking into the circumstances that led up to Lea's lynch, because I get the feeling somebody took advantage of Corrik's irrational paranoia to convince JC to let Lea die. ... As for the Lopen statement, that one wasn't misconstrued. I 100% said that, and I don't take it back lol --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:979171865] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>I can't disagree those are interesting statements. I went back to get the post that has been nagging me since end of day 1 and found this post quoted above - t3p352. I'm struggling to find the context for what Peaf meant by this?</quote>Whoa hold on Lopen is completely misconstruing what I saidI said we should lynch Sultan because he's been very inconsistent with his reads this game. Look no further than the start of Topic 6.Lea said it was weird.Red said it was weird.Everyone thinks it's weird.Lopen is hung up on one thing I said about lynching Sultan informing us about Chris's alignment, which, in hindsight, was maybe not the most logical argument. But my suspicions on Sultan were founded upon his erratic reads and lack of consistency with them + his interactions with MZero today where he gave subpar answers to all of the contradictions MZero pointed out.As for Red, when I said he was being anti-town yesterday, I meant it, but that was before he had claimed and I had to choose between saving him or saving Lea. And the answer was pretty damn obvious to me given that all Red had really contributed at the time was just #date-ing everybody first thing into the day, which actively worked against town's ability to lynch scum.Now, I did say he should die anyway even after claiming Cop, but that was said in a fit of rage, and I ultimately didn't act on it. Quite frankly, Lea died for extremely stupid reasons yesterday and was a very level-headed townie. So now I'm looking into the circumstances that led up to Lea's lynch, because I get the feeling somebody took advantage of Corrik's irrational paranoia to convince JC to let Lea die.... As for the Lopen statement, that one wasn't misconstrued. I 100% said that, and I don't take it back lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 03/03/24 9:17:10 PM #346:	Honestly Lea died because she decided too. She had opportunities to save herself and just didn't --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame <cite>MZero posted [p:979171903] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Honestly Lea died because she decided too. She had opportunities to save herself and just didn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 9:17:31 PM #347:	Lopen posted... Note he doesn't mention FD in the initial post-- the break up with Lea is in the same post-- if FD isn't there to win his love, what's the logical conclusion Date Peaf Leaving Dumey Lea and JC in the pool well at the very least you've convinced me that if there is scum at EoD d1 it's probably kirby and not dumey? i don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that dumey could have paired up with peaf again without too much suspicion until a possible peaf flip later in the game. in this setup i feel like the scum incentive to save a buddy (particularly role cop) is Lopen posted... Sequence is this FD breaks up, extends date to Kirby Kirby accepts Lea then immediately breaks it. Then says "FD!!!" I date Lea Kirby dates FD JC dates Dumey i'll note that the post that's been nagging me was made after FD broke up to steal Kirby away --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979171911] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>Note he doesn't mention FD in the initial post-- the break up with Lea is in the same post-- if FD isn't there to win his love, what's the logical conclusionDate PeafLeaving Dumey Lea and JC in the pool</quote>well at the very least you've convinced me that if there is scum at EoD d1 it's probably kirby and not dumey?i don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that dumey could have paired up with peaf again without too much suspicion until a possible peaf flip later in the game. in this setup i feel like the scum incentive to save a buddy (particularly role cop) isLopen posted... </cite><quote>Sequence is thisFD breaks up, extends date to KirbyKirby accepts Lea then immediately breaks it. Then says "FD!!!"I date LeaKirby dates FDJC dates Dumey</quote>i'll note that the post that's been nagging me was made after FD broke up to steal Kirby away </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 03/03/24 9:18:04 PM #348:	is large* how did i just leave out a whole word --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:979171923] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>is large*how did i just leave out a whole word </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/03/24 9:18:16 PM #349:	You gotta wonder if Chris really is town and Ulti was trying to get Dumey to break up to give Kirby a safety net --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979171929] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>You gotta wonder if Chris really is town and Ulti was trying to get Dumey to break up to give Kirby a safety net </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 03/03/24 9:18:23 PM #350:	Chaeix posted... but kirby dated lea, not FD I tried to date Lea, but mechanics happened Which didn't matter because as soon as I saw FD open a date to me, I expressed my distress that I couldn't pair up with him, believing that I had committed to Lea. So she broke up with me, I returned the break up, and then tried to date FD again. ... Which, again, didn't matter because mechanics dictated that I was gonna end up with FD regardless due to a date request I had sent him much earlier that was still open lol I'll let my posts during that moment of the day speak for themselves: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d9f1ed5b.jpg --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:979171932] in Valentine'... [t:80711281]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>but kirby dated lea, not FD</quote>I tried to date Lea, but mechanics happenedWhich didn't matter because as soon as I saw FD open a date to me, I expressed my distress that I couldn't pair up with him, believing that I had committed to Lea. So she broke up with me, I returned the break up, and then tried to date FD again.... Which, again, didn't matter because mechanics dictated that I was gonna end up with FD regardless due to a date request I had sent him much earlier that was still open lolI'll let my posts during that moment of the day speak for themselves:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d9f1ed5b.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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