His face appears next to the definition of "Rape" in Introduction to Criminal Justice 101 and a brief description of his sensational arrest, conviction and sentencing is provided beneath it
It says "Brock Turner, a Stanford student who raped and assaulted an unconscious female college student behind a dumpster at a frat party, was recently released from jail and serving only 3 months. Some are shocked at how short this sentence is. Others who are familiar with the way sexual violence has been handled in the criminal system are shocked that he was found guilty and served any time at all. What do you think?" authors Callie Marie Rennison and Mary Dodge go on.
Brock was never convicted of rape but found guilty of 3 counts of felony sexual assault. He was arrested after being seen penetrating a drunk, unconscious girl with his fingers behind a dumpster in California.
So he wasn't convicted and they still called him a rapist in a law text book. Looks like the only confirmed rape is going to be those textbook prices for students.
That's so unprofessional ergh.
His time in jail was too short. His punishment should have been heavier, such as longer time in prison, high fines, and paying for the victim's support and services.
So he wasn't convicted and they still called him a rapist in a law text book. Looks like the only confirmed rape is going to be those textbook prices for students.
lolwut? She's suffered more trauma for the nonsense afterward than anything that happened while both were drunk.
They were both wasted and made dumb decisions.
But of course, witch-hunt society doesn't care about that.
Do you think Brock deserves to have his life ruined?
Krow_Incarnate posted...Dayum
I'm saying that maybe it's not a great idea to get passed-out drunk around 20 or 30 other drunk people you may or may not know and think you can trust.
How to drink safely at a college party:
Step 1: Identify all rapists present
Step 2: Stab all rapists present
Step 3: Drink!
Step 4: Stop drinking before alcohol poisoning
Zeus posted...
lolwut? She's suffered more trauma for the nonsense afterward than anything that happened while both were drunk.
Zeus, I know you have trouble containing your thinly-veiled misogyny, but go fuck yourself. You do not get to decide how traumatic a rape victim finds their rape. Ever. This is not negotiable.
Krow_Incarnate posted...
I'm saying that maybe it's not a great idea to get passed-out drunk around 20 or 30 other drunk people you may or may not know and think you can trust.
How to drink safely at a college party:
Step 1: Identify all rapists present
Step 2: Stab all rapists present
Step 3: Drink!
Step 4: Stop drinking before alcohol poisoning
How to drink safely at a college party:
Step 1: Identify all rapists present
dedbus posted...
So he wasn't convicted and they still called him a rapist in a law text book. Looks like the only confirmed rape is going to be those textbook prices for students.
Because he was rich and white. He got away with it.
rich, easily
Isn't this for college? Why does it look like a middle-school textbook, and what does diversity and change have to do with understanding criminal law definitions and interactions?
bulbinking posted...
Isn't this for college? Why does it look like a middle-school textbook, and what does diversity and change have to do with understanding criminal law definitions and interactions?
Have you been to college in the last few decades?
adjl posted...
How to drink safely at a college party:
Step 1: Identify all rapists present
You're gonna need to break that bit down a little. I'm a fan of avoiding rapists, but it's hard to tell the difference given how similar their fashion is to ours.
Or you know, limit your actual intake and don't get blackout drunk?
You're gonna need to break that bit down a little. I'm a fan of avoiding rapists, but it's hard to tell the difference given how similar their fashion is to ours.
And with this article, I can see why.
I mean this is pretty much the textbook definition of rape and punishment was without a doubt deserved and should have been more severe.
Now what wouldnt have been rape was if they were both conscious and consented to sex even under the influence. I know some people like to lay it on the man for many cases when the woman just decides she regretted it the next day, which is wrong.
dedbus posted...
So he wasn't convicted and they still called him a rapist in a law text book. Looks like the only confirmed rape is going to be those textbook prices for students.
Because he was rich and white. He got away with it.
I wonder if there's anyone itt saying that fingering an unconscious person you found at a party isn't sexual assault
mrduckbear posted...
Do you think Brock deserves to have his life ruined?
Yep just has he has ruined the life of his victim.
Zeus, I know you have trouble containing your thinly-veiled misogyny, but go fuck yourself. You do not get to decide how traumatic a rape victim finds their rape. Ever. This is not negotiable.
Criminal trials are public.
This is deep into "fair, next" territory.
Except her life is hardly ruined, the extent to which she was actually a victim is murky, and no matter what happened in that alley -- consensual or not -- he's got it far, far worse.
Generally a good idea, what with the whole avoiding alcohol poisoning thing, but not a prerequisite for not getting raped. That onus falls entirely on the rapists. It's very easy to not rape somebody.
I mean this is pretty much the textbook definition of rape and punishment was without a doubt deserved and should have been more severe.
I didn't say it wasn't sexual assault.
I'm saying that maybe it's not a great idea to get passed-out drunk around 20 or 30 other drunk people you may or may not know and think you can trust.
But hey, college kids goin' to college.
no matter what happened in that alley -- consensual or not -- he's got it far, far worse.
Except her life is hardly ruined,
the extent to which she was actually a victim is murky,
Unfortunately, the only two real testimonies from the incident itself come from heavily intoxicated persons and, since she allegedly passed out at one point, she was more heavily soused than him so her testimony is even less reliable.
Meanwhile, the guys who grabbed Brock showed up after the fact.
While trauma is personal, it's silly to ever pretend that there are no benchmarks.
More broadly speaking, you'd sooner kill a man -- by your own admission earlier the same post -- than hear his side of the story
Given that the definition of rape that you and that "that's what she said!" brand of male feminists have pushed has turned to consent AFTER the fact, it's a somewhat unreasonable standard.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/
http://nypost.com/2017/02/22/teen-charged-with-lying-about-being-raped-by-college-football-players/
I'll say it again: It's very easy to not rape somebody. I'll clarify: It's very easy to make sure that your sexual partner is completely okay with what you're doing. If you're not comfortable having that conversation with them, then you aren't mature enough to be having sex in the first place. Period.
So if you have sex with a woman and she falls asleep - can she claim rape?
So if you have sex with a woman and she falls asleep - can she claim rape?
So if you have sex with a woman and she falls asleep - can she claim rape?
What about drunk women? Do I need to breath-test them? What's the allowable limit?
What about drunk women? Do I need to breath-test them? What's the allowable limit?