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I haven't eaten lunch in 3 days. Hard to avoid carbs since they're far cheaper than actual healthy food.

I'll probably start with a scoop or two of oatmeal since that's at least a form of healthy carbs.
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carbs good for you; apples and bananas are like 98% carbs
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Keto/Carnivore are both fine diets and all, but honestly you'd do yourself so much more good if you just cut all the super processed shit out and stop eating at restaurants - fast food or otherwise.

If you want to cut back on carbs, but maybe not cut them out (much more easily sustainable than prolonged ketosis) start making your own bread. It tastes way better, and the effort that goes into it will keep you from overdoing it. Grow a garden, and find a good butcher. Fill your stomach with food, not food products.
Lokarin posted...
carbs good for you; apples and bananas are like 98% carbs


I meant things like bread and tortillas.

Realthuddydrumz posted...
Keto/Carnivore are both fine diets and all, but honestly you'd do yourself so much more good if you just cut all the super processed shit out and stop eating at restaurants - fast food or otherwise.

If you want to cut back on carbs, but maybe not cut them out (much more easily sustainable than prolonged ketosis) start making your own bread. It tastes way better, and the effort that goes into it will keep you from overdoing it. Grow a garden, and find a good butcher. Fill your stomach with food, not food products.


I can't afford fertilizer for a garden. Also a shitload of rocks since this is in Arizona.
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ya, growing your own garden needs a lot of space to grow enough for food... other than maybe green beans, you get a LOT O BEANS; but those also grow nicely indoors (might need a grow lamp).

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Lokarin posted...
ya, growing your own garden needs a lot of space to grow enough for food... other than maybe green beans, you get a LOT O BEANS; but those also grow nicely indoors (might need a grow lamp).


I have the space but just can't afford the set up for a garden.
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well, in general just buy more fruit/veggies; i'm rather poor myself but produce is consistently cheaper than most foods (here, at least); I just don't like coookin'
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i was told to avoid banana at first because of it's high glycemic load/index. only could have half.

all of us carve our true path to eating healthier. had to do the same since last year. keeping myself off from the diabeetus path.

Lokarin posted...
well, in general just buy more fruit/veggies


i stick to onions/tomato and iceberg lettuce for fresh. the frozen and canned at each dinner varies but it's mainly peas/carrots and green beans.
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kingdrake2 posted...
i was told to avoid banana at first because of it's high glycemic load/index. only could have half.

all of us carve our true path to eating healthier. had to do the same since last year. keeping myself off from the diabeetus path.

i stick to onions/tomato and iceberg lettuce for fresh. the frozen and canned at each dinner varies but it's mainly peas/carrots and green beans.


That would probably be too late for me. I also want to have some cheat stuff too but not all the time like I use to do.
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Revelation34 posted...
I also want to have some cheat stuff


that... i limit myself to once a week where i can have something within the limit.

tuesdays usually i make ground beef burrito's. but i stick to the lower calorie diet for the other meals minus a 1 serving dessert on 2 days a week.
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kingdrake2 posted...


that... i limit myself to once a week where i can have something within the limit.

tuesdays usually i make ground beef burrito's. but i stick to the lower calorie diet for the other meals minus a 1 serving dessert on 2 days a week.


I have some mochi from Trader Joe's in the freezer. It's more of a snack though.
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I used an app that kept track of my calories/macros.

Generally you want an even 1/3 split between carbs, fats, and protein. If you are trying to lose weight, then stick to filling foods with high protein, cut back on fats and carbs, and stay away from fast burning carbohydrates like sugar, since those will give you a craving to eat more. You want to maintain a calorie deficit of up to 700 calories. After that, your body will start breaking down muscle.

I don't buy into any fad diet or keto anything. Keto will give you some serious cravings, and carbs/protein can also be turned into fat. More importantly, I've never heard it being recommended by anyone other than a blogger or an internet poster.

Revelation34 posted...
I haven't eaten lunch in 3 days. Hard to avoid carbs since they're far cheaper than actual healthy food.
Bulk frozen chicken for protein/fat, yogurt for fat, butter, milk, cheese, and others, it's not too hard. I had a great app that listed macros in all foods, but I forget what it was.

I'll probably start with a scoop or two of oatmeal since that's at least a form of healthy carbs.
Really you're just trying to avoid sugars because they will give you the cravings when your sugar levels crash. You could go for bread or something like that. Sugar is like throwing leaves into a campfire.

I refuse to eat oats, personally.
Revelation34 posted...
I have the space but just can't afford the set up for a garden.

Afford. Do you think you'll be able to afford being in shitty health later in your life?

Seems to me like the choice is to spend the money now on eating right or spend the money later on medical bills and shit.

Healthy decisions usually require sacrifices beyond the simple decision to do something like "eat better".

Its not just putting down the addictive, processed, sugar filled shit people stuff their faces with. Its also going to come with the added caveat of "give something else up so you can afford to eat better."

Either that or just have more money, which is even harder for a lot of people.
You really don't have to have a garden to be healthy, agriculture as a whole is pretty useful for civilizations that expand past the river bed.
Eat beans instead of bread.
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Eat beans instead of bread.
Beans actually have a much higher fat/protien content then bread. Rice is a better replacement for bread if you don't like bread for some reason.
what's your budgetary limiting factor?

I know mine is lack of freezer space, but I'm fortunate that produce is so cheap here
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Yellow posted...
I used an app that kept track of my calories/macros.

Generally you want an even 1/3 split between carbs, fats, and protein. If you are trying to lose weight, then stick to filling foods with high protein, cut back on fats and carbs, and stay away from fast burning carbohydrates like sugar, since those will give you a craving to eat more. You want to maintain a calorie deficit of up to 700 calories. After that, your body will start breaking down muscle.

I don't buy into any fad diet or keto anything. Keto will give you some serious cravings, and carbs/protein can also be turned into fat. More importantly, I've never heard it being recommended by anyone other than a blogger or an internet poster.

Bulk frozen chicken for protein/fat, yogurt for fat, butter, milk, cheese, and others, it's not too hard. I had a great app that listed macros in all foods, but I forget what it was.

Really you're just trying to avoid sugars because they will give you the cravings when your sugar levels crash. You could go for bread or something like that. Sugar is like throwing leaves into a campfire.

I refuse to eat oats, personally.


There's no sugar in regular oatmeal. I'm not going to buy a flavored oatmeal.

Realthuddydrumz posted...


Afford. Do you think you'll be able to afford being in shitty health later in your life?

Seems to me like the choice is to spend the money now on eating right or spend the money later on medical bills and shit.

Healthy decisions usually require sacrifices beyond the simple decision to do something like "eat better".

Its not just putting down the addictive, processed, sugar filled shit people stuff their faces with. Its also going to come with the added caveat of "give something else up so you can afford to eat better."

Either that or just have more money, which is even harder for a lot of people.


I have nothing I can give up to afford it.
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Revelation34 posted...
I'm not going to buy a flavored oatmeal.


they pack that stuff with sugar. not so good :(.
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Yellow posted...
Generally you want an even 1/3 split between carbs, fats, and protein.

The numbers I've seen are 40-65% carbs, 20-35% fats, 10-35% protein (by calories, bearing in mind that fats have 125% more calories per gram than carbs/protein). A 1/3 split is close enough to that, but there's a lot of flexibility and the ideal mostly depends on what your protein needs are (e.g. if you exercise a lot, you want more protein).

Yellow posted...
You want to maintain a calorie deficit of up to 700 calories. After that, your body will start breaking down muscle.

The ideal deficit is 5-10% of your daily needs, which aren't terribly difficult to calculate (search for "Estimated Energy Requirement" and you'll find the formula and/or a calculator easily enough). More than that, and you'll have an impact on your BMR that will mess with things. That estimation does assume you're getting a proper balance of vitamins and minerals, though, since not having that can mess with your BMR (which makes up the majority of your calories out unless you're ridiculously active).

Counting calories can be a pain, though, and very quickly fall into obsessive/disordered territory if you end up caring too much about it. Broadly, just aim for roughly a 50:25:25 ratio by volume of veggies to starches to meat in your meals (i.e. half your plate should be veggies), try to cut down on the added sugars and other heavily processed stuff, and make a point of getting at least some token physical activity in every day (even just like a half-hour walk will make a difference, you don't have to go work out or anything). If you're looking to lose weight past that, just make your portions a little bit smaller and try to only eat when you're actually hungry and stop when you're satisfied.
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Revelation34 posted...
I have nothing I can give up to afford it.

Dad always used to say similar, but I noticed we ALWAYS seemed to have money for beer and cigarettes. People are often blind when it comes to the places they end up dumping their disposable income to the point that they no longer see it as disposable income.

Like I said, find the space by choice now, or run the very serious risk of finding much more space by force later. That's your call.
Realthuddydrumz posted...


Dad always used to say similar, but I noticed we ALWAYS seemed to have money for beer and cigarettes. People are often blind when it comes to the places they end up dumping their disposable income to the point that they no longer see it as disposable income.

Like I said, find the space by choice now, or run the very serious risk of finding much more space by force later. That's your call.


I don't smoke and rarely drink. Any alcohol I have right now was free.
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I'm on day two of black coffee. Instant is especially trash but better than adding anything.
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Realthuddydrumz posted...
Dad always used to say similar, but I noticed we ALWAYS seemed to have money for beer and cigarettes. People are often blind when it comes to the places they end up dumping their disposable income to the point that they no longer see it as disposable income.
Nowadays it's usually ending up with five or six streaming services, somehow.

Think about all the things you are spending money on. How many of those do actually need , and how many do you merely "need"?
Questionmarktarius posted...

Nowadays it's usually ending up with five or six streaming services, somehow.

Think about all the things you are spending money on. How many of those do actually need , and how many do you merely "need"?


If I had them then probably 1-3. Nobody needs shit like Peacock or Paramount.
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Revelation34 posted...
Nobody needs shit like Peacock or Paramount.


i have paramount. only reason is to get my fill in watching the amazing race seasons (halfway through the list)

i'll end up picking something else before november starts to keep my options open.
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am in the same boat as the topic headline. recently discovered my triglycerides are too high & Im pre-diabetic (diabetes is an issue that runs in the family), also included are: the point of taking meds, and talking with a nutritionist. I also know that theres way too much info out there to make things a slippery slope and/or a very deep rabbit hole.

this discovery has been a pretty good wake up call to work on correcting things the best I can. have completely cut out soda, and focused on more healthier things. current enjoyables are salads, yogurt, and fruit (obsessed with blackberries). just searching for good hints/tips/ideas/etc, & best of luck to those fighting this battle!
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Pikazard1 posted...
am in the same boat as the topic headline. recently discovered my triglycerides are too high & Im pre-diabetic (diabetes is an issue that runs in the family), also included are: the point of taking meds, and talking with a nutritionist. I also know that theres way too much info out there to make things a slippery slope and/or a very deep rabbit hole.

this discovery has been a pretty good wake up call to work on correcting things the best I can. have completely cut out soda, and focused on more healthier things. current enjoyables are salads, yogurt, and fruit (obsessed with blackberries). just searching for good hints/tips/ideas/etc, & best of luck to those fighting this battle!


Yeah I bought fruit for the first time in a very long time. Trader Joe's is the best for stuff like that because of the prices. I'm going to add it to oatmeal. The only soda I still want to drink is the exclusive/limited edition Mountain Dews but I would split it with somebody else if I get any.
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Pikazard1 posted...
this discovery has been a pretty good wake up call to work on correcting things the best I can. have completely cut out soda , and focused on more healthier things. current enjoyables are salads, yogurt , and fruit (obsessed with blackberries)


you're doing all the right things. blackberries are low on the glycemic (good fruit). yogurt i use light or greek yogurt (those varieties have lower sugar than the regular version and it's helpful for the pre-diabetes because of the nutrients).

hopefully i watch one of these topics one day and see that you gotten rid of the pre-diabetes (it took a year for myself).
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Revelation34 posted...
I'm on day two of black coffee. Instant is especially trash but better than adding anything.
If you are drinking coffee black to avoid sugar, try cold brew coffee. Cold brew is a lot less bitter than regular coffee. It's easy to make and you can either improvise the equipment or buy a very inexpensive kit (Aldi occasionally has a glass carafe with a filter insert for $10).

Get two bottles with lids, a funnel, and paper coffee filters. Add coffee grounds to one bottle, fill it with room temperature water, put the lid on it, and stick it in the fridge overnight. Next morning, put the funnel in the second bottle, stick a filter in the funnel, and slowly pour the coffee from the first bottle into the filter to fill the second. When you've finished, put a lid on the second bottle and keep refrigerated; use within a few days to maybe a week. If it's too strong, you can add cold water (or milk) to dilute it.

The Aldi kit is similar, except there's a filter insert you place into the carafe. Add your coffee to the filter, then fill with water. Stick in the fridge overnight, then carefully remove the filter, leaving the brewed coffee in the carafe. It comes with two lids, one that fits on top of the filter and one for use without it.

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captpackrat posted...

If you are drinking coffee black to avoid sugar, try cold brew coffee. Cold brew is a lot less bitter than regular coffee. It's easy to make and you can either improvise the equipment or buy a very inexpensive kit (Aldi occasionally has a glass carafe with a filter insert for $10).

Get two bottles with lids, a funnel, and paper coffee filters. Add coffee grounds to one bottle, fill it with room temperature water, put the lid on it, and stick it in the fridge overnight. Next morning, put the funnel in the second bottle, stick a filter in the funnel, and slowly pour the coffee from the first bottle into the filter to fill the second. When you've finished, put a lid on the second bottle and keep refrigerated; use within a few days to maybe a week. If it's too strong, you can add cold water (or milk) to dilute it.

The Aldi kit is similar, except there's a filter insert you place into the carafe. Add your coffee to the filter, then fill with water. Stick in the fridge overnight, then carefully remove the filter, leaving the brewed coffee in the carafe. It comes with two lids, one that fits on top of the filter and one for use without it.

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I don't like cold brew coffee and I can't afford anything extra right now anyway.
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I fucked up two days in a row.
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Revelation34 posted...
I fucked up two days in a row.
That's expected

Can't snap your fingers and change your habits.
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Revelation34 posted...
I fucked up two days in a row.
It happens. Keep trying and don't be mean to yourself because of it.
My first rule when I'm focusing on eating healthy is to cut out all empty calories. If you can do that, you're good on conditioning yourself on eating what you should and staying away from the things you shouldn't.
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Have you tried the cronometer app? I've used it to help me gain weight. It keeps track of vitamins and other nutrients as well. I've only ever used the free version, and it's great.
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Midnight_Hammer posted...
My first rule when I'm focusing on eating healthy is to cut out all empty calories. If you can do that, you're good on conditioning yourself on eating what you should and staying away from the things you shouldn't.


I'm not going to buy any snacks next month.

green_dragon posted...
Have you tried the cronometer app? I've used it to help me gain weight. It keeps track of vitamins and other nutrients as well. I've only ever used the free version, and it's great.


That would be useless for me since I definitely don't get enough nutrients since most healthy food is too expensive.
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Revelation34 posted...


That would be useless for me since I definitely don't get enough nutrients since most healthy food is too expensive.
How good are you at keeping/ tracking a budget? And can you cook? Where i live, fast food is just as expensive, if not more so, then fresh, healthy food.
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It's a very common fallacy that eating healthier is more expensive.
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I've been doing a protein shake every morning for breakfast. Just mix the power (chocolate) in some water in a shaker bottle. That's like 30g of protein and only 150 calories right there. Then I'll eat a pre-made salad or frozen microwavable dinner for lunch (about 250-400 calories). Then I eat whatever we prepare at home for dinner. Try to keep it under 1000 calories. So I eat about 1500-1600 calories in a day which puts me at a deficit, especially if I go to the gym too which I do 3 times a week. Doing this I've lost 30 pounds in about 3 months. I don't worry about carbs, fat, any of that shit. Just making sure to eat less calories than I'm expending in a day. I do make sure I'm getting a decent amount of protein though.

The breaking down muscle as one user pointed out is no joke. It actually does happen. Since I've lost weight my max bench went from 185 lbs to like 155 lbs. Once I hit my desired "cut" weight I plan to bulk up the muscles though.
SunWuKung420 posted...
It's a very common fallacy that eating healthier is more expensive.
I agree, but obviously I don't know everyone's situation (where they live, etc.). I think what people get confused about is that it's more expensive to eat out/at restaurants that serve healthy food than it is to eat bad fast food.
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green_dragon posted...

How good are you at keeping/ tracking a budget? And can you cook? Where i live, fast food is just as expensive, if not more so, then fresh, healthy food.


I'm better than most people but I don't have much of a budget right now regardless. I rarely eat fast food and if I do it's not going to be something like McDonald's.

I'm not a good cook. I have a head of cabbage that I'll boil soon though.
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Revelation34 posted...
I'm not going to buy any snacks next month.

That would be useless for me since I definitely don't get enough nutrients since most healthy food is too expensive.

You can get healthy food for pretty inexpensive. Chicken and fish are inexpensive. Beef can be kind of expensive at times. You can get a 5lb roll of ground beef for around $20. Rice is inexpensive as a healthier carb. Vegetables are fairly inexpensive. Either fresh or frozen. Never canned.
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Eat healthier is easy, avoid processed food.

Now losing weight? That's fucking hard. Your entire evolution was based on not losing weight.

Best I have heard is try to keep water near by, keep drinking it every time your stomach feels empty or you are hungry. We often mistake thirst for hunger and start snacking.
And it does work, very slowly.
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Plain popcorn is a healthy snack.
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Plain popcorn is a healthy snack.
Aldi periodically sells a mini-popcorn maker. They're cheap enough I bought one to keep at work. Other people had their terrible-for-you microwave popcorn, loaded with grease and salt, but I had fresh super-healthy hot air popcorn. And it's crazy cheap to make, too, only a handful of kernels makes an entire gigantic bowl of popped corn.
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I pop it in olive oil, just because.
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