Rewatching Terminator Genisys and I have a couple questions. SPOILERS

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Current Events » Rewatching Terminator Genisys and I have a couple questions. *SPOILERS*

12/29/2023 06:52:45 PM

12/29/2023

06:52 PM

When Kyle and Sarah time travel to 2017 and John Connor meets them in the police hospital or whatever, why didnt he just execute them right there? Hes already an evil terminator by that point.

Also, why didnt they go through with the Genisys trilogy? I wanted more of this glorious train wreck.

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Irony

12/29/2023 06:53:29 PM

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06:53 PM

Idk

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12/29/2023 06:54:04 PM

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06:54 PM

Irony posted...

Idk

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Robot2600

12/29/2023 06:54:23 PM

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06:54 PM

because that movie is a flaming pile of dog shit

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au_gold

12/29/2023 07:00:10 PM

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07:00 PM

Guys Im serious. Please help.

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ScazarMeltex

12/29/2023 07:01:12 PM

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07:01 PM

Studio didn't think it would be profitable.

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Robot2600

12/29/2023 07:01:29 PM

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07:01 PM

im fucking serious af

it's a goddamn trainwreck of a "movie"

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Jiek_Fafn

12/29/2023 07:03:14 PM

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07:03 PM

Youre putting too much thought into this. It was just a series of fanfic scenes cobbled together until it decided the runtime was long enough.

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au_gold

12/29/2023 07:12:33 PM

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07:12 PM

That answers why they didnt finish the trilogy.

But surely the writers had a reason why John Conner wouldnt just kill the two people he was determined to kill in the first place who happen to be his parents and killing them would mean he wouldnt be born Surely the writers thought of that.

Right?

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Dathrowed1

12/29/2023 07:13:33 PM

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07:13 PM

#10

Honestly... Salvation was the best movie post T2 in that series

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008Zulu

12/29/2023 07:14:12 PM

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07:14 PM

#11

The writers wanted a paycheck, the producers wanted a new Terminator movie, the fans wanted something good. Only two of those got what they wanted out of it.

If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter.

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12/29/2023 07:23:29 PM

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07:23 PM

#12

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Robot2600

12/29/2023 07:44:02 PM

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07:44 PM

#13

au_gold posted...

That answers why they didnt finish the trilogy.

But surely the writers had a reason why John Conner wouldnt just kill the two people he was determined to kill in the first place who happen to be his parents and killing them would mean he wouldnt be born Surely the writers thought of that.

Right?

Terminator is pretty straightforward that different timelines exist, so killing your parents wouldn't make you disappear like in back to the future.

the reason he didn't kill them right away was he was hoping to turn them into machines as well.

that's basically it.

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au_gold

12/29/2023 08:29:51 PM

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08:29 PM

#14

Dathrowed1 posted...

Honestly... Salvation was the best movie post T2 in that series

Dark Fate for me, but Genisys is the one I rewatch the most.

Robot2600 posted...

Terminator is pretty straightforward that different timelines exist, so killing your parents wouldn't make you disappear like in back to the future.

the reason he didn't kill them right away was he was hoping to turn them into machines as well.

that's basically it.

Oh, did he say that? Ill take it.

Id love to glimpse the timeline where they finished the Genisys trilogy. I wonder if they wouldve brought back robot John in the sequels.

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008Zulu

12/30/2023 01:08:07 AM

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01:08 AM

#15

Robot2600 posted...

Terminator is pretty straightforward that different timelines exist, so killing your parents wouldn't make you disappear like in back to the future.

Then why does Skynet have such a murder boner for John Connor's past self, when killing him back then clearly wouldn't change anything?

If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter.

Robot2600

12/30/2023 01:14:15 AM

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#16

008Zulu posted...

Then why does Skynet have such a murder boner for John Connor's past self, when killing him back then clearly wouldn't change anything?

spite, anger, etc., mostly (flipping the chessboard over)

it's also possible that JC is intended to be some kind of nexus: something like "70% of worlds where we kill JC, Skynet is totally badass"

it's not totally clear

it's possible it doesn't care if it has to burn some timelines, and the logical "i wont know about it" doesnt matter to the AI--it's fine knowing it's winning in other timelines

it's also possible that it thinks it can somehow become a God if it has enough time, and then it wont matter, or it could rescue it's alternate selves.

as far as the movies go, it seems like there aren't infinite timelines, just like 4-10 or w/e, and in every single one skynet is defeated eventually, before becoming a god.

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chaos_knight

12/30/2023 01:15:40 AM

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01:15 AM

#17

Scientist Man is here to answer all of your questions with utmost clarity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXJiSZhA5cg

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Quorthon109

12/30/2023 01:19:31 AM

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01:19 AM

#18

As someone who has only seen the first 3 films, reading the first two sentences of the OP has struck me dumb

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InfinityMonster

12/30/2023 01:24:48 AM

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01:24 AM

#19

au_gold posted...

That answers why they didnt finish the trilogy.

But surely the writers had a reason why John Conner wouldnt just kill the two people he was determined to kill in the first place who happen to be his parents and killing them would mean he wouldnt be born Surely the writers thought of that.

Right?

IIRC, he tells them to join him to become a family, and only after they refuse, does he try to kill them.

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chaos_knight

12/30/2023 01:29:47 AM

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01:29 AM

#20

Quorthon109 posted...

As someone who has only seen the first 3 films, reading the first two sentences of the OP has struck me dumb

Don't worry. It went from an amazing franchise to one that makes you actively lose brain cells when you watch it.

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Robot2600

12/30/2023 01:36:12 AM

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01:36 AM

#21

ive seen all 6 movies :(

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Mr_Karate_II

12/30/2023 01:45:02 AM

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#22

Still better than Dark Fate, that movie more or less shit on T2.

T2 is honestly a good ending to the franchise.

Salvation isn't too bad either.

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Robot2600

12/30/2023 01:46:32 AM

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01:46 AM

#23

yes it is bad too

the arcade game is the only thing good about Salvation

and even that is bad

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Kimbos_Egg

12/30/2023 01:49:13 AM

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#24

Robot2600 posted...

because that movie is a flaming pile of dog shit

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au_gold

12/30/2023 10:38:51 AM

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10:38 AM

#25

Quorthon109 posted...

As someone who has only seen the first 3 films, reading the first two sentences of the OP has struck me dumb

Its incredibly dumb but its a lot of fun and the CGI still looks great for the most part.

Also it has Emilia Clarke.

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12/30/2023 09:01:46 AM

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Jagr_68

12/30/2023 10:42:28 AM

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#27

chaos_knight posted...

Scientist Man is here to answer all of your questions with utmost clarity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXJiSZhA5cg

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12/30/2023 10:43:22 AM

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#28

chaos_knight posted...

Scientist Man is here to answer all of your questions with utmost clarity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXJiSZhA5cg

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Southernfatman

12/30/2023 10:44:25 AM

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#29

Glad someone posted Scientist Man.

Jagr_68 posted...

"Nick Stahl?" But that's a different guy!"
(yes I know it's from a different video)

"Batman?"

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Jagr_68

12/30/2023 10:54:09 AM

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#30

Southernfatman posted...

Glad someone posted Scientist Man.

"Batman?"

Yes Batman is John Connor now please keep up.

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12/30/2023 11:16:48 AM

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#31

au_gold posted...

That answers why they didnt finish the trilogy.

But surely the writers had a reason why John Conner wouldnt just kill the two people he was determined to kill in the first place who happen to be his parents and killing them would mean he wouldnt be born Surely the writers thought of that.

Right?

This movie is ok, dark fate was great. Arnold was asked why both movies did bad iirc . He prob wanted to say how pathetic most moviegoers are, but he did not

Current Events » Rewatching Terminator Genisys and I have a couple questions. *SPOILERS*