The entire Hitmon line is one of those things I don't get with Pokemon. They're all very ugly humanoid designs, none of them are particularly good, and they got both the baby pokemon gimmick & the unique 3-way split evolution.
Mega PunchIt was me. I was the kid.
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Some kid was really proud of that, I bet.
It was me. I was the kid.Same >_> I was so confused why Hitmonchan was so trash as a kid. I didn't understand how special worked
Mega Punch
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Some kid was really proud of that, I bet.
The Elemental Punches are Physical.Not in Gen 1-3
The Elemental Punches are Physical.Not pre 4th gen
Not pre 4th gen
Not pre 4th genHeh. My mistake.
guess what kid didnt know that growing up lolLiterally everyone: "It has Punch in the name! Why isn't it off the Attack stat!?"
The physical/special split in gen 4 was one of the most revolutionary changes to the battle system ever seen between generations. A lot of previously useless pokemon suddenly became viable, especially after gen 2 split Special Attack and Special Defense and nerfed some of them (looking at you, Gyarados).Remember Kingler? 130 Attack stat, can only use Normal moves for physical lol
The Elemental Punches are Physical.Not in Gen 1 they weren't
The physical/special split in gen 4 was one of the most revolutionary changes to the battle system ever seen between generations. A lot of previously useless pokemon suddenly became viable, especially after gen 2 split Special Attack and Special Defense and nerfed some of them (looking at you, Gyarados).Sneasel finally became useful. ...In the same generation that it got a far better evolution, but hey, points.
Pokemon has always had such needlessly obtuse and unintuitive mechanics
Sneasel finally became useful. ...In the same generation that it got a far better evolution, but hey, points.
Of course, Dark should have never been a Special type to begin with. Just as Ghost should have never been Physical.
Of course, Dark should have never been a Special type to begin with. Just as Ghost should have never been Physical.
I thought they were physical attacksNot until Gen 4.
Yes! I also remember Charizard onlyCharizard
CharizardNah, I think most kids swapped out Ember for Slash. Everyone quickly figured out how broken Slash was with auto-crits
-Flamethrower
-Fire Spin
-Fire Blast
-Ember
Another kid's proud work on display here.
I think the logic behind Ghost being physical was that the only damaging move in gen 1 was Lick, lol.Which of course raises the issue with both it and Dragon's only attack being a move that only inflicted 40 damage at all times, rendering its super-effectiveness on the type chart (against itself only) pointless.
Nah, I think most kids swapped out Ember for Slash. Everyone quickly figured out how broken Slash was with auto-critsTrue enough, I suppose.
Ironically, Alakazam fucking owned in Gen 2 since you could get all 3 Punch TMs and teach him them and they were all special type
And even with the physical punches and iron fist ability it still just kinda sucksThat's power creep for you.
Mega PunchI was too, and always wondered why it did no damage. RIP.
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Some kid was really proud of that, I bet.
Bonus points if it was hyperbeam.Hyper Beam was OP in Gen 1. You could do a lot worse than that, especially if you're talking about Mewtwo with its base 110 Attack (like, even the topical Hitmonchan only had 105 Attack).
Literally everyone: "It has Punch in the name! Why isn't it off the Attack stat!?"if you even understood the concept of stats or knew where to find them ,you are a far more advanced pokemon player than I was back then
if you even understood the concept of stats or knew where to find them ,you are a far more advanced pokemon player than I was back then
Pokemon Stadium 2 had all the nerd information available in some classroom thing.Yeah Stadium 2 had some pretty good movesets on a lot of pokemon too. Stadium 1 to a lesser degree. They obviously knew Amnesia Mewtwo was broken enough to be suitable as a final boss all by itself but there's still a lot of jank I'm not sure they were aware of. I don't think there's any explanation of EVs and IVs (or stat exp and DVs, whatever) anywhere in gen 1 / gen 2. And even if there were an explanation that it exists, there's certainly no explanation on how you should optimize for it.
Reading that was enough to make 11 year old me the pvp king of school.
No idea how we were supposed to learn that in gen 1. Probably bit by bit by some NPC dialogs.
I don't think there's any explanation of EVs and IVs (or stat exp and DVs, whatever) anywhere in gen 1 / gen 2. And even if there were an explanation that it exists, there's certainly no explanation on how you should optimize for it.
They vaguely allude to it. NPCs will say things like "two pokemon of the same level can have different stats" and "a trained pokemon is stronger than a newly caught one of the same level".Ironically this caused even more confusion in my experience. I remember trying to explain to my friends that there's no benefit in deliberately trying to catch a lower level pokemon. But they heard of the the "stronger if you level it up on your own thing" and took it the wrong way. I remember trying to explain EVs when EVs were still a weird internet only nerd thing to know about and they were like "ok so that proves it's true and I should level them up on my own". And I'm like "NO - if you're going to do 100 battles with a level 5 caterpie or 100 battles with a level 4 caterpie they'll have the same EVs, one will just be a higher level at the end. You're still wasting your time!"
They vaguely allude to it. NPCs will say things like "two pokemon of the same level can have different stats" and "a trained pokemon is stronger than a newly caught one of the same level".
CharizardThis was me with Flareon. For whatever reason any time I used an Eevee evolution as a kid I insisted on giving them 4 moves of their own type. So Flareon got that.
-Flamethrower
-Fire Spin
-Fire Blast
-Ember
Another kid's proud work on display here.