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Humble_Novice
02/29/2024
08:56 PM
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creativerealms
02/29/2024
08:57 PM
#2
As long as they will still vote for Biden in November I really see no harm in it.
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solosnake
02/29/2024
08:57 PM
#3
Ever feel like its some dark destiny for Trump to take over American Democracy? Seems like every possible thing that can go his way does
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ellis123
02/29/2024
08:58 PM
#5
creativerealms posted...
As long as they will still vote for Biden in November I really see no harm in it.
That's also why there is no point in it. Change can only happen if the results are not pre-determined.
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Doe
02/29/2024
08:58 PM
#6
shockthemonkey posted...
Oh no, not mild pressure to do something popular

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Humble_Novice
02/29/2024
09:00 PM
#7
creativerealms posted...
As long as they will still vote for Biden in November I really see no harm in it.
I'd be surprised if they manage to hit 30%.
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Pitbuller_26
02/29/2024
09:03 PM
#9
Humble_Novice posted...
I'd be surprised if they manage to hit 30%.

They couldn't even meet their goal in Michigan. They sure as hell ain't meeting that goal in Minnesota. Especially when Tim Walz starts encouraging people to vote for Biden.
cjsdowg
02/29/2024
09:04 PM
#10
This is the most milqutoast protest and centrist are getting bad.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
02/29/2024
09:05 PM
#11
Show us on the doll where the online left hurt you, Humble Novice.
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Solar_Crimson
02/29/2024
09:05 PM
#12
creativerealms posted...
As long as they will still vote for Biden in November I really see no harm in it.

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Doe
02/29/2024
09:18 PM
#13
Pitbuller_26 posted...
They couldn't even meet their goal in Michigan. They sure as hell ain't meeting that goal in Minnesota. Especially when Tim Walz starts encouraging people to vote for Biden.
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Humble_Novice
02/29/2024
09:21 PM
#14
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Show us on the doll where the online left hurt you, Humble Novice.
Are you saying we're not allowed to criticize the online left?
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
02/29/2024
09:26 PM
#15
Humble_Novice posted...
Are you saying we're not allowed to criticize the online left?
Sure, I do it all the time.

The difference is you criticize the online left for absolutely harmless and even beneficial stuff, like this very campaign. The primary is the correct time to express grievances with the establishment so they have a chance to consider course-correcting in the general, and Biden could really stand to stop uttering bafflingly stupid shit like, "no Jew in the world would be safe if not for Isreal."

I voted for Eban Cambridge for the California primary, but when he loses I'll vote for Biden.
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Irony
02/29/2024
09:29 PM
#16
This won't acconplish anything. Biden will call their bluff
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ablegator
02/29/2024
09:36 PM
#17
Stay home. Pick someone else. But do not support Biden.
Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid?
ButteryMales
02/29/2024
09:38 PM
#18
Irony posted...
This won't acconplish anything. Biden will call their bluff
What gave you the dumb idea it's a bluff?
Humble_Novice
02/29/2024
09:38 PM
#19
ButteryMales posted...
What gave you the dumb idea it's a bluff?
Because they know the far right will do so much worse to Palestine and them?
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ButteryMales
02/29/2024
09:41 PM
#20
Humble_Novice posted...
Because they know the far right will do so much worse to Palestine and them?
They don't necessarily know that. There's not pandemic going on right now and there wasn't a well known genocide from an ally when Trump was president.
ForsakenHermit
02/29/2024
09:42 PM
#21
In fairness Vacant was president for four years.
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Kradek
02/29/2024
09:43 PM
#22
That's fine, Biden should feel pressured to listen on the issue.
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Voidgolem
02/29/2024
09:49 PM
#23
I'm still baffled at what the objective is here

"he should feel pressured to listen on the issue" You are aware every other option on the table, that you would use to "pressure" him, is objectively worse, yes?

like not only would you -still- not get a ceasefire, but now things are straight up fucked here, too. Good job?
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LightHawKnight
02/29/2024
09:52 PM
#25
creativerealms posted...
As long as they will still vote for Biden in November I really see no harm in it.

Will they is the question. Odds are they start brainwashing themselves into thinking they are right and skip voting, even if only 30% of them do it, it could let the orange idiot win.
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Voidgolem
02/29/2024
09:53 PM
#26
shockthemonkey posted...
what

"Okay everyone stay home! That'll show him!"

-Trump wins. Continues bombing campaign. 2025 kicks off into high gear. A variety of bland generic evils are enforced on this end of the pond as the right wing gets more in motion.

But you can pat yourself on the back and say you performed an empty gesture of support.

Good work.
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Humble_Novice
02/29/2024
10:01 PM
#27
Voidgolem posted...
"Okay everyone stay home! That'll show him!"

-Trump wins. Continues bombing campaign. 2025 kicks off into high gear. A variety of bland generic evils are enforced on this end of the pond as the right wing gets more in motion.

But you can pat yourself on the back and say you performed an empty gesture of support.

Good work.
I do wish more leftists would realize that voting is supposed to be a tool to enact positive change. That's why voting for the lesser evil is an actual thing in politics.
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ButteryMales
02/29/2024
10:04 PM
#28
Voidgolem posted...
A variety of bland generic evils are enforced on this end of the pond as the right wing gets more in motion.
Oh, like when George W. Bush was president? Would be nice to get a Democratic supermajority again.
LightHawKnight
02/29/2024
10:04 PM
#29
Humble_Novice posted...
I do wish more leftists would realize that voting is supposed to be a tool to enact positive change. That's why voting for the lesser evil is an actual thing in politics.
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I just wish more people realize that change takes time and fucking stop letting perfect be the enemy of good. There will never be a perfect candidate.
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Humble_Novice
02/29/2024
10:09 PM
#30
LightHawKnight posted...
I just wish more people realize that change takes time and fucking stop letting perfect be the enemy of good. There will never be a perfect candidate.
Personally, I think the candidate who's close to perfection would be AOC.
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LightHawKnight
02/29/2024
10:13 PM
#31
Humble_Novice posted...
Personally, I think the candidate who's close to perfection would be AOC.

She would never win an election though, so called "moderates" would never vote for her.
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refmon
02/29/2024
10:18 PM
#32
shockthemonkey posted...
Oh no, not mild pressure to do something popular

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Voidgolem
02/29/2024
10:22 PM
#34
shockthemonkey posted...
Is this how you think people are actually thinking

explain your reasoning, then. We'll wait.
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emblem-man
02/29/2024
10:23 PM
#36
Us hasn't sent any weapons to Israel since beginning of February or January right? And Biden admin is pushing for a ceasefire right?
If the aid package in the house fails and no more weapons go through as well, does that count as Biden doing what they want?
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emblem-man
02/29/2024
10:24 PM
#37
shockthemonkey posted...
Joe Biden should do a popular thing
What popular thing exactly?
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Block_that_Kick
02/29/2024
10:24 PM
#38
As a Minnesota who already voted for Biden in the primary, if they want to vote uncommitted, then fine. In the primaries you vote with your heart and in the general you vote with your brain.
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Zero_Destroyer
02/29/2024
10:25 PM
#40
emblem-man posted...
What popular thing exactly?

Supporting a ceasefire is pretty broadly popular with Dems/Independents at this point
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Voidgolem
02/29/2024
10:26 PM
#41
shockthemonkey posted...
Joe Biden should do a popular thing

He should. This won't make him do it and has significantly high odds of backfiring. Next.
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ButteryMales
02/29/2024
10:27 PM
#42
emblem-man posted...
Us hasn't sent any weapons to Israel since beginning of February right? And Biden admin is pushing for a ceasefire right?
If the aid package in the house fails and no more weapons go through and well, does that count as Biden doing what they want?
Biden has been unconstitutionally bypassing Congress to sell weapons to Israel.

https://time.com/6551227/biden-administration-bypasses-congress-israel-weapons-sale/
Dark_Arbron
02/29/2024
10:29 PM
#43
shockthemonkey posted...
Is this how you think people are actually thinking

It literally is. People think that refusing to participate in a lesser of two evils system does anything except help the worse evil win.
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02/29/2024
09:01 PM
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LightHawKnight
02/29/2024
10:32 PM
#45
Zero_Destroyer posted...
Supporting a ceasefire is pretty broadly popular with Dems/Independents at this point

Calling for a ceasefire is such pointless virtue signaling though. Unless there is already a plan set in stone ready to go off the moment the ceasefire starts to get the civilians out of there and countries ready to take them in, all a ceasefire is going to do is delay deaths. Both sides want to continue, its not a matter of if, but when the ceasefire will be broken.
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MyMainAccount
02/29/2024
10:33 PM
#46
Do what you like in the primary; I'd even say good if it can make people notice you. Obviously in the main event we need to stop Trump though.
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emblem-man
02/29/2024
10:35 PM
#47
shockthemonkey posted...
You cant seriously still be confused about what the uncommitted campaign is asking for


ButteryMales posted...
Biden has been unconstitutionally bypassing Congress to sell weapons to Israel.

https://time.com/6551227/biden-administration-bypasses-congress-israel-weapons-sale/

See my post 36

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emblem-man
02/29/2024
10:37 PM
#49
Zero_Destroyer posted...
Supporting a ceasefire is pretty broadly popular with Dems/Independents at this point
Gotta be more specific. He supports a ceasefire.
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emblem-man
02/29/2024
10:43 PM
#50
ButteryMales posted...
Biden has been unconstitutionally bypassing Congress to sell weapons to Israel.

https://time.com/6551227/biden-administration-bypasses-congress-israel-weapons-sale/
Yes, when was the last time a sale went through? I think it's been a few weeks since it last happened. If no more continues, and the aid bill doesn't go through, does that fulfill what people want
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