Which hero has the MCU dropped the ball on the most?

Iron Fist

Iron Fist

Iron Fist hasn't officially become part of the MCU, yet, so he wouldn't count.

I kinda feel like Spider-Man by not having Mary Jane Watson as his love interest. I know a lot of people would have flipped a table over her being Black, but racists can suck shit.

Zendaya looks like 90s animated series Mary Jane Watson. She should have been Mary Jane Watson. I don't care how many liberties would have been taken with regards to personality or whatever else. It's not like she was consistent to begin with.

Peter should be with his OTP and not some OC.

I'd also cast a vote for Vision. He was way too powerful at the time of his introduction compared to the rest of the heroes, so every time there was a fight they had to come up with some reason he couldn't take part. He basically existed to be part of Wanda's character development and that was it.

She pretty much is mary jane and to be honest id rather her than the annoying one tobey got

I'm sorry, but that's not good enough. They should have had the courage to call her by name. And, no, calling her "MJ" doesn't count.

I'm sorry, but that's not good enough. They should have had the courage to call her by name. And, no, calling her "MJ" doesn't count.

Didnt they recently say the Netflix shows are canon? I know they at least said Daredevil is

Bruh what difference does it make

for all intents and purposes thats MCU Peters Mary Jane Watson.

Also lol at spider-man being the hero that got dropped the hardest because his love interest isnt named correctly

I never even bothered with his show. I heard it was REALLY bad

They always have been

Because an 80% similar character isn't the same character.

I don't know if they were afraid to call her Mary Jane because it's a euphemism for marijuana. I don't know if they feared racist vitriol. It's not it makes a difference on that front because Spider-Man's love interest is still Black. I don't know if they have contempt for Mary Jane Watson as a brand name because of her association with male fantasy or being a damsel in distress.

But I don't want to see Tarzan with Janice or Superman with Luisa. That's enough to take me out of a story. It's about character legacy. If you omit the name, you omit the character.

Whats wrong with omitting the character? Its not like hes never had other love interests.

God, it has to be Iron Fist. Even if it's only partly connected right now, it was so awful that it deserves the title of worst adaptation regardless.

Also, I believe they have officially have been made canon to the MCU now.

Otherwise, I'd have to say Warmachine. Has he actually done anything besides get sniped by Vision?

Because an 80% similar character isn't the same character.

I don't know if they were afraid to call her Mary Jane because it's a euphemism for marijuana. I don't know if they feared racist vitriol. It's not it makes a difference on that front because Spider-Man's love interest is still Black. I don't know if they have contempt for Mary Jane Watson as a brand name because of her association with male fantasy or being a damsel in distress.

But I don't want to see Tarzan with Janice or Superman with Luisa. That's enough to take me out of a story. It's about character legacy. If you omit the name, you omit the character.

I don't usually get into shipping wars, but with MJ it's different. I'd sooner keep her and throw away Spider-Man than the inverse.

It would have been better for me if Spider-Man had a boring love interest. When Mary Jane Watson showed up in the final episode of season one of the 90s cartoon, it went from Spider-Man being a cool superhero with cool supervillains to Spider-Man being a self-insert fantasy about a guy who hooks up with the woman of his dreams.

<_<

I genuinely dont know why you care so much. Its just a name. MCU spider-man already changed so much about peter and his life, why is this the thing you get hung up on

wait what do you just have a weird obsession with MJ???

I genuinely dont know why you care so much. Its just a name. MCU spider-man already changed so much about peter and his life, why is this the thing you get hung up on

Yeah lets file this under non issue

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In all honesty, I think the writing was on the wall for my interest in the MCU as soon as it was announced that Disney had acquired his film rights.

I didn't mind the liberties with the characters that I didn't know or care about. Films like Captain America and Iron Man had everything to gain and nothing to lose as far as I could see. But when they introduced my character, they had to strictly adhere to what I felt Spider-Man was or I wasn't going to be happy.

I can and win complain about Spider-Man playing sidekick to other heroes. That one is on them. But I will admit that it's doubtful the MCU would have made me happy with any path they would have likely taken with Spider-Man.

Its cool that we can still have stupid pointless arguments on here

this is why people make fun of nerds

What argument? You have your stupid pointless problems with the MCU and I have my stupid pointless problems with the MCU.

Shang Chi, arguably. His movie feels way too self-contained.

This is not true. They became canon recently when daredevil new series wasnt

I dont get this.

When they make a hero super tied to the mcu, then ppl say it feels like homework.

When they say make a movie self contained then people say its not connected enough.

The first dr strange and black panther movies are more isolated lol.

Shang chi features abomination, Bruce banner, captain marvel and wong.

not to mention, its only been 2.5 years since the last film

we know they're making a sequel too

so, what, he hasn't popped in any of the not-as-good shows and movies in that time? big deal

black widow that movie was actually horrible

I don't feel bad about it because, the way that I look at it, getting upset about shipping isn't the immature part. Being a 30+ adult watching superhero movies is the immature part.

I'm already being a big kid just by being entertained by flying supermen and superwomen.

Millennials are not boomers. The latter are the type who see 30 year olds playing video games and think its childish, when its just that times have changed. This why are you on that kid toy when you should be outside kicking a ball around like when I was a kid in the 60s shit is a thing of the past.

Superheroes are conceptually immature. It stems from a fascist fantasy to be superior to the masses. Romantic fantasies, while shunned for being vicarious substitutes for the limitations of real-life romance, are in my opinion healthier and more productive than wishing oneself to be a benevolent superior.

So, no. I don't get much fun out of Spider-Man in the absence of Mary Jane Watson. I'll never be ashamed to admit that the series is just Twilight for Boys and that I'm firmly in the shipping camp that I'm in.

This is not true. They became canon recently when daredevil new series wasnt working so they went back to netflix. Confirmed by vincent, thats why they only showed on disney plus timeline a couple months ago

black widow that movie was actually horrible

FortuneCookie posted...
Superheroes are conceptually immature. It stems from a fascist fantasy to be superior to the masses.

Didnt they recently say the Netflix shows are canon? I know they at least said Daredevil is