Bye bye, TikTok: House votes overwhelmingly to ban it

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Current Events » Bye bye, TikTok: House votes overwhelmingly to ban it
WhereTwoFeom posted...
Your point is weird. Free speech existed before the pride flag. Banning the pride flag is obviously still restricting free speech.
That is a content-based restriction and is already well-established to be unconstitutional. Doesnt apply in this case.
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People would change their tune pretty quickly if the Government actually tried banning all social media. Especially if it was a Republican doing it.
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Tiktok is a weird platform filled to the brim with misinformation and Zoomers use it like we used Google in the mid 2000s. Something needs to be done.
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wanderingshade posted...
Tiktok is a weird platform filled to the brim with misinformation and Zoomers use it like we used Google in the mid 2000s. Something needs to be done.

Yes, better reading education and better critical thinking education but that will never happen in this country because it does not serve the needs of the masters.
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wanderingshade posted...
Tiktok is a weird platform filled to the brim with misinformation and Zoomers use it like we used Google in the mid 2000s. Something needs to be done.
there is no crackdown on podcasts or alt right radio/channels that spread misinformation to boomers and gen x. If it was about misinformation Joe Rogan would be the first to go.
shockthemonkey posted...
Do you think the US should be taking cues from China on how we regulate our internet?

I think TikTok should have been flagged as malware years ago when it was revealed they embed a keylogger in their in-app browser.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/19/technology/tiktok-browser-tracking.html
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name_unknown posted...
there is no crackdown on podcasts or alt right radio/channels that spread misinformation to boomers and gen x. If it was about misinformation Joe Rogan would be the first to go.

I mean I'd also like if there was no F&F, Infowars, southern talk radio reminiscent of Rush Limbaugh, Rogan/Bench Appearo/Louder With Chowder either.
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DuuuDe14 posted...
Just ban all social media.

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I hate to see all the Boomer takes on this and the lack of nuance.

Yes, social media can be very harmful, especially to kids, teens, and young adults.

Yes, social media is often full of conspiracies, disinfo, and misinfo.

Yes social media has been a bomb dropped on society without testing or awareness of the wide range of effects it would have.

Yes, it can also be an incredibly powerful tool to spread information in a way that bypasses siloes, regulation, and suppression.

Yes, TikTok Zuccs up people's info in a creepy and potentially dystopian way.

Yes, it's functionally owned by an authoritarian foreign government.

Yes, a government could hypothetically have an interest in wanting to regulate social media to reduce its most harmful effects.

Yes, the government is shamelessly ignoring the harm that domestic social media does and the spying they do, likely because they benefit from it.

Yes, the government shows little interest in reducing the harm from social media and just wants to hurt a geopolitical enemy and take the data for themselves.

Yes, this could have serious free speech implications and is partially a culture war issue to prevent young people from becoming less bigoted.

Yes, this is something that would only happen to something young people use and never to something older people use.

No, all social media is not going to be banned.
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Nahh, if it ends up getting banned, fuck the U.S. government
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Watch its sold to a bunch of right wingers.

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Gonna be real, Twitter is a bigger problem than TikTok but they won't do anything about that shithole because they like the owner.
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To all the people talking about the repubs only voting it out because it cost them the election, would you care to share for the class why 155 Dems decided to also vote to ban it despite it helping them win the election (as the argument goes) with Democratic President Joe Biden saying he'll sign it in if both the house and senate give the OK.
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wanderingshade posted...
I mean I'd also like if there was no F&F, Infowars, southern talk radio reminiscent of Rush Limbaugh, Rogan/Bench Appearo/Louder With Chowder either.
I would prefer an FCC with more tools to regulate and actual teeth
The U.S. government is evil, I dont want them censoring and controlling what I see on my tik tak
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shockthemonkey posted...
Thats the plan

I think I saw that Bobby Kotick (Former CEO of Activision Blizzard) wants to buy it? One sec.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/11/24097247/former-activision-ceo-bobby-kotick-is-apparently-eyeing-tiktok
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People missed a key word in that tweet: "could".

With bills and laws, a single word placement can heavily alter how its enforced.

The way I interpret this is that TikTok and other social media outlets should be on high alert about user safety and widespread misinformation and disinformation.

The fact that 4 months ago random dumbasses were spreading Osama Bin Laden's letter as a praiseworthy gospel truth that reached millions before the truth of the letter could spread.
Horith posted...
This is just xenophobia and racism wrapped up to look like privacy protection

WhereTwoFeom posted...
And? That's still the same logic as your point. If your actual point was that TikTok has other issues that makes it reasonable to restrict then that's another argument entirely. And unfortunately constitutionality is dependent on what judges there are at the time. The Pride Flag can be seen as "obscene" by a group of of 9 Christo-fascist judges and thus restricted. Currently numerous politicians consider this bill unconstitutional as well.
I dont think you understand the logic of my point at all, actually. Banning the content of expression is legally distinct from banning the manner of expression. Its already well-established that content of speech has more protections than the manner of speech. I should also say that politicians are not to be trusted as they have their own agendas.
He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning.
And yet they aren't banning the entire Internet and all smart devices
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WhereTwoFeom posted...
And not reddit, 4chan, youtube where it originated?

https://imgur.com/nZ76BbM.mp4
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Hypnospace posted...
The fact that Duncan has a more intelligent take on this than a chunk of people in this topic should really leave you guys thoroughly humiliated

Can you wait another day? Wait another week? Wait another month? Wait another year?
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wanderingshade posted...
Tiktok is a weird platform filled to the brim with misinformation and Zoomers use it like we used Google in the mid 2000s. Something needs to be done.
Shit like OAN and other alt-right content is allowed to exist despite the fact that they actively promote fake conspiracies and insurrection. Hell, Twitter and facebook are also hives for propaganda.

Why do you take umbrage with tiktok specifically?
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Next ban Facebook, then Instagram, then Redddit you all see where this is going?
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WhereTwoFeom posted...
Uh, no its not. Things like protests, churches, and public forums are manners of expressions the founding fathers very much had in mind when making the constitution. The first amendment specifically mentions freedom to assembly.
Supreme court judges also have their own agendas as can be seen by everything thats happened the last few years. Politicians having their own agendas is also exactly the case here.
You misread me. I said that there are more protections for content than manner, not that manner isnt protected at all. Whether or not TikTok is a traditional public forum is not well-established and isnt protracted n that sense. Youre reading your own bias into what Im saying.
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
duncan still exists thought they banned him for life

They let Vegy back.
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it doesnt make sense at all. Suppression of speech of gen z
I don't think this is a slippery slope in terms of censorship and banning social media, but it does show a bit of xenophobia. Perhaps it could open the door to more data and privacy rights, especially since there's AI.
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name_unknown posted...
Unregulated AI is more dangerous than tiktok

what does tiktok do different than meta or snapchat does currently?
Facebook and Snapchat as bad as this challenge
https://www.kxnet.com/news/local-news/the-after-effects-of-the-tiktok-kia-challenge-on-car-insurance/

This incident would be a disaster for any social media app in the USA. But it being swept under the rug
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WhereTwoFeom posted...
Im referring to those protections too. There isnt more protection. Thats your false presumption.
There are lots and lots of content that are limited for various reasons, even more in the past.
In any case none of that is relevant to or obvious from your point simply being There was free speech before X. Youre just changing the goalposts.
Is not a presumption, youre just flatly wrong about this. We dont have more free speech because TikTok exists, therefore we dont have less when it doesnt. The content of speech and the manner of speech are distinct, and the law does not treat them equally. Thats well-established. Goalposts firmly planted.
He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning.
I see a lot of boomers browsing TikTok daily for animal videos and the like so it's not just the kids that are going to be upset about this
Im not a fan. Primarily because I don't think it's right to target an individual platform. If the problem is data being given to China, get laws to control that. If it's misinformation, likewise. If tiktok steers around these laws, then have some kind of court punish/ban them. Not the legislative.
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lets gooooooo, get fucked Commie app
Good riddance
littlebro07 posted...
They'll say "because China owns it and uses it to spy on people"

But the true reason is it allows for the quick spread of soooooo much information they don't want to be spread

Every social media allows for that, so I doubt that's the reason.
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Yep, America would rather spy than be spied in my other countries.

If tiktok gets banned, someone will just make an American version of it.
Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need.
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I cant be arsed to care. It seems like a hotbed of easily accessble misinformation mixed in with harmless videos.
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Never user TikTok, but the motive behind this is suspect at best.

Guessing they'll have excuses for not going after Facebook/Twitter for also selling your data. And having dangerous misinformation.
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I've never been to tiktok, but if they ban it, I'm going every day. This is a terrifying precedent that endangers freedom of speech. It is no different than banning books, music, film, etc.
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KirkAlbuquerque posted...
lets gooooooo, get fucked Commie app
Hope they ban temu next.
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This is such clown behavior.
Not only is the argument to ban Tiktok ridiculous but even if it wasn't it's too late now. Everyone has everyone else's information and they've been selling it between them for years. That cat is out the bag.
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