https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62a7815d.jpgIs it bad that I laughed?
Is it bad that I laughed?
It sure is curious how passionate people are about not loosely throwing the term "samurai" around to describe all retainers in 1500s Japan right after an alt-history video game announces they'll let you play as a black samurai.This. Yasuke has been called a samurai long before now and nobody dislikes it. Now all of a sudden everyone is a historical expert and he's not smh
I believe you, hope I wasn't insinuating otherwise.
I'm curious. You say that samurai are actually called bushi. Then what are samurai? sengoku/edo media in Japanese with subtitles, generally the word 'samurai' will be spoken when it appears in the subtitles. Is it just that samurai is the modern japanese word for what in the period would have been called a bushi?
I believe you, hope I wasn't insinuating otherwise.The difference between Samurai and Bushi have changed over periods.
I'm curious. You say that samurai are actually called bushi. Then what are samurai? sengoku/edo media in Japanese with subtitles, generally the word 'samurai' will be spoken when it appears in the subtitles. Is it just that samurai is the modern japanese word for what in the period would have been called a bushi?
The funny thing is that there are mutiple Japanese games that reference him.
Samurari Warriors, Nago from Gulity gear Strive, Nioh.
As Far as people are concern if you wield a sword from Japan, your a samurai.
Partially yes, samurai can be used interchangeably with Bushi now, but it did have a more specific meaning in the past. The way samurai is used in English is equivalent to Bushi though. And the way Bushi changed over different time periods is complex, and also Bushido wasn't formalized until much lated (like the 1700-1800s). But a big problem with English loanwords from Japanese is the meaning often isn't the same. When English people say katana they really mean nihontou. A Napoleonic calvary saber would be a katana in Japanese, it's a very broad word covering single edged swords.Ah, thanks. This is interesting.
I found another image that covers a lot of that:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b9e6657c.jpg
But absolutely there is no controversy in Japan about him being samurai. He's been depicted that way in media forever. The idea he wasn't samurai is basically a modern Western thing borne of prejudice against black people. You might find some fringe racists in Japan that would exclude him, but that isn't the mainstream view.
Is the top right image a movie or a tv show? I wouldn't mind seeing a period piece with/about Yasuke.
I mean that's literally what the Wikipedia vandals did. They left the English, Dutch, Korean, etc. foreign born samurai as samurai and then changed Yasuke to retainer. Meanwhile the Japanese Wikipedia page just lists them all as foreign born Bushi (this is what you actually call what Westerners call samurai in Japanese). They literally changed the one black guy to retainer and are fighting a war over it. A Korean guy mentioned literally once is passing? No problem, he's a samurai. A Dutch dude and an Englishman that literally never fought in any battles? Yep, they're samurai. The black guy who was documented by multiple sources to have been a samurai (Bushi) and was documented to have fought in at least one battle? Oh he's a "retainer". It's so fucking blatant that I can't believe so many people are falling for it.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62a7815d.jpgRofl.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62a7815d.jpgStrong version.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62a7815d.jpglmao so accurate
you blame their monopoly for what, exactly
I explained it. They give fans a chance to build a resume, and break up the Wikipedia monopoly
The floor is completely wrong. Although the Muromachi period did start to see tatami rooms beyond just a sleeping and sitting tatami, they absolutely did not look like this. Additionally sitting in seiza was not a standardized thing until much later in the Edo period. The way the samurai are sitting here would never happen in a period drama made in Japan. It's a very obvious mistake. You can look up sitting samurai from the period and will notice that cross legged sitting, agura, is by far the most common at that time. Seiza was facilitated by the full tatami rooms that became standard in the Edo period and the rules requiring it followed that development.If video game companies are going to make titles that take place in Japan, they need to hire more people who have a deeper understanding of the country's history and culture. I still remember Japanese fans making fun of the first Tomb Raider reboot because of Himiko anachronistically looking like a geisha.
If video game companies are going to make titles that take place in Japan, they need to hire more people who have a deeper understanding of the country's history and culture. I still remember Japanese fans making fun of the first Tomb Raider reboot because of Himiko anachronistically looking like a geisha.
while often altering the history to match whatever story they're trying to tell, I feel like Ubisoft does pretty well in researching things for the Assassin's Creed series.Didn't egyptologists find a secret area in the giza pyramid after assassin's Creed already said there was one there?
Didn't egyptologists find a secret area in the giza pyramid after assassin's Creed already said there was one there?
ConfusedTorchic posted...
you blame their monopoly for what, exactly
STEROLIZER posted...
I explained it. They give fans a chance to build a resume, and break up the Wikipedia monopoly
Didn't egyptologists find a secret area in the giza pyramid after assassin's Creed already said there was one there?
Yeah, I was just in Egypt last year and my guide was talking about the new secret chamber.oh yea, I remember the story, but both of your posts reminded me about it.
while often altering the history to match whatever story they're trying to tell, I feel like Ubisoft does pretty well in researching things for the Assassin's Creed series.