Just watched Prometheus (SPOILERS)

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Recently watched Alien (good) and Aliens (extraordinary)

3 and Ressurection didn't appeal to me so I went to Prometheus

I liked half of the movie. There is a good movie and a bad movie in there. When the Alien stuff finally happened it was good. Despite the talent, none of the cast resonated like that of Alien/Aliens. Shaw is no Ripley.

It feels like halo where once 343 took over and the story become more convoluted witht he origin of humanity. I think we just want more xenomorphs, not engineer guys. The lore of the franchise is definitely worse but I will say I was intrigued.

I want to give it a 7 but it does have a messy and slow plot so I have to give it a 6/10. Eventually it did start feeling like an Alien movie and it was really good then.

On to covenant then Romulus
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I enjoy Prometheus and Covenant, but they aren't great. Kinda wish they were their own thing rather than part of the Alien universe.

Blue_Popo posted...
none of the cast resonated
Oh boy, buckle up for Covenant then. Honestly, thinking back on it covenant only has like 3 characters you'll even remember and none of them even do anything. One is only important for being stupid and annoying, one is only important because they're the main character, and the other is Danny McBride. All of them stupid, even the inconsequential ones, they don't even really feel like characters. They're just plot devices plugged in.

Though, I'll admit the visuals are really good and it has interesting monsters. It definitely leans into the Alien side more than Prometheus. But man, the characters are just awful.
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you almost gave prometheus the same score as you gave the og alien movie? what in the hell.

and you skipped terrible movies to see a terrible movie? well ok.

i feel like there's not much else to the franchise besides the AvP movies (which are their own category of terrible). did you play the game yet?

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Imagine rating Prometheus the same as Alien
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I will say this.. The Prometheus soundtrack is something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzI3AdpA9e4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfBGhVWDbP4

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Blue_Popo posted...

It feels like halo where once 343 took over and the story become more convoluted witht he origin of humanity. I think we just want more xenomorphs, not engineer guys. The lore of the franchise is definitely worse but I will say I was intrigued.


Agreed on all points.

Prometheus has potential as an idea, but it's just better off as far removed from Alien as possible, in my opinion. The space jockey in the the first movie was clearly meant to be something bizarre/inhuman, and retrofitting a tall guy with a fancy mask into place just kills the creativity that went into it.
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ImAMarvel posted...
Man it was the exact opposite for me. Been ages since I've seen it but I remember the first 30 - 45 minutes being good and I felt like I was watching the next classic sci-fi movie.

Then it got real dumb real fast lol

Wish I had hulu still.

I thought it was fine but the parts that were good also happened with dumb backstory
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I liked Prometheus, but it does feel very detached from the rest of the franchise. It's a better film than Alien 3 and Resurrection, but at least those two still feel like they fit what Alien is all about.

Covenant is easily the worst of the franchise in my opinion.

Kaldrenthebold posted...
I still think skipping resurrection is a mistake

I think if TC plans on seeing Romulus, then they should go back and watch both Alien 3 and Resurrection. Romulus makes Resurrection more worth the watch in my opinion. And you kinda need to see Alien 3 to set up Resurrection.
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Prometheus would have been decent as a standalone non-Alien franchise movie. It'd still suffer from some of the dumbest characters in a movie ever but it wouldn't have been as terrible as it was. The only thing Covenant did was make the stupid characters in Prometheus look like fucking geniuses.

3 and Resurrection are both bad too, but are also both much better than Prometheus and Covenant by wide margins.

Also, yes, Romulus is also far and away the 3rd best of the series.
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GuerrillaSoldier posted...
you almost gave prometheus the same score as you gave the og alien movie? what in the hell.

and you skipped terrible movies to see a terrible movie? well ok.

i feel like there's not much else to the franchise besides the AvP movies (which are their own category of terrible). did you play the game yet?

First AvP was pretty cool, second was an awkward train wreck though
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KogaSteelfang posted...
I enjoy Prometheus and Covenant, but they aren't great. Kinda wish they were their own thing rather than part of the Alien universe.

Oh boy, buckle up for Covenant then. Honestly, thinking back on it covenant only has like 3 characters you'll even remember and none of them even do anything. One is only important for being stupid and annoying, one is only important because they're the main character, and the other is Danny McBride. All of them stupid, even the inconsequential ones, they don't even really feel like characters. They're just plot devices plugged in.

Though, I'll admit the visuals are really good and it has interesting monsters. It definitely leans into the Alien side more than Prometheus. But man, the characters are just awful.

The fact that the traditional alien is on the cover gets me more excited to watch covenant
GuerrillaSoldier posted...
you almost gave prometheus the same score as you gave the og alien movie? what in the hell.

and you skipped terrible movies to see a terrible movie? well ok.

i feel like there's not much else to the franchise besides the AvP movies (which are their own category of terrible). did you play the game yet?

6 is in the fine territory, 7 is good territory. Alien is better, maybe not by the marhin you have it but it is better. Also my opinion may have been different if i didnt watch them both in 2024 for the first time. Its only fair for 1979 sci fi movie to have elements that aged.

No desire to watch AvP with how low the reviews from fans and critics are. Never played any games
HighSeraph posted...
Imagine rating Prometheus the same as Alien

Rated alien higher
Arcanine2009 posted...
I will say this.. The Prometheus soundtrack is something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzI3AdpA9e4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x83SXBc1sV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfBGhVWDbP4

The music and visuals are top notch. Prometheus looks better than a lot of 2024 movies
Raycon posted...
Agreed on all points.

Prometheus has potential as an idea, but it's just better off as far removed from Alien as possible, in my opinion. The space jockey in the the first movie was clearly meant to be something bizarre/inhuman, and retrofitting a tall guy with a fancy mask into place just kills the creativity that went into it.

Yes, sometimes less is more. Its the problem with hollywood, they need the next title to be bigger but that doesnt always mean better
It had amazing sets.

That's about where my praise ends >_>
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I still think skipping resurrection is a mistake

Could still get to it later. Its further in the timeline so it wont be an issue. I wanted to do prometheus before i watch romulus on tuesday. If im ever craving more alien, 3 and resurection are there
The original Alien is one the greatest movies ever made (my personal favorite). I like Prometheus quite a bit, I thought it was a really good horror sci-fi movie with some really interesting concepts. I think it gets unfairly criticized because some of the characters act kind of dumb at times (there are some cut scenes that help with that some). Most horror movies have characters doing dumb things. Most people I know seem to like it quite a bit, but hardcore Alien fans like to pick it apart.
I think if Prometheus was like 3 hours long it would have been a much better movie. So much content got cut out that we were left with far too many questions. I still enjoyed the movie
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Prometheus rocked if you didn't put any thought into it.
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Reminder that for Alien Covenant they thought it was OK to film the character development scenes, but then cut them from the movie and instead just have them uploaded to youtube.

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Blue_Popo posted...
The fact that the traditional alien is on the cover gets me more excited to watch covenant


It shouldn't.

= (

I really wanted it to be good.
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I will say that Resurrection is pretty fun. Is it great? Lol no, but it's fun.

Alien 3 is so bad it's bad.
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Yea the problem with Prometheus is demystifing the Alien imo.

It being a genetically made weapon means it is something humans can make and is actually a cousin to humanity.
WingsOfGood posted...
Yea the problem with Prometheus is demystifing the Alien imo.

It being a genetically made weapon means it is something humans can make and is actually a cousin to humanity.

It doesn't really though, because it doesn't answer any of the questions if vaguely shrugs it's shoulders at you and goes "eh? Eh?" for. Then it asks you other irrelevant questions and then everyone is the dumbest person you have ever met.

I mean, at least it LOOKS good.
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I kinda feel like the whole Aliens universe was made worse by examining "how they came to be". I'd rather they have just been left as a weird scary alien threat that we knew next to nothing about. Their origins just didn't need to be examined.
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I kinda feel like the whole Aliens universe was made worse by examining "how they came to be". I'd rather they have just been left as a weird scary alien threat that we knew next to nothing about. Their origins just didn't need to be examined.

Yea I just assumed they evolved on another planet.
We didn't need a literal cliche of some "ascended" alien seeding life throughout the galaxy.

Starcraft did the same thing lmao
Seeing Alien and Aliens for the first time in 2012 before Prometheus, I assumed that the Aliens were just the equivalent of space wasps in that they're hive creatures that hate literally everything that moves which isn't them. They're essentially weird fucked up hateful animals, why does there need to be some clandestine story to say how space bugs came to exist.
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PrideOfLion posted...
I like Prometheus, I don't think it's as good as the first two and I'd definitely give the edge to Romulus, but it's probably my 4th favorite out of the franchise.

So far tracks for me too

Aliens>alien>prometheus

But im not exactly breaking any new ground here with this statement
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I liked Prometheus, but it does feel very detached from the rest of the franchise. It's a better film than Alien 3 and Resurrection, but at least those two still feel like they fit what Alien is all about.

Covenant is easily the worst of the franchise in my opinion.

I think if TC plans on seeing Romulus, then they should go back and watch both Alien 3 and Resurrection. Romulus makes Resurrection more worth the watch in my opinion. And you kinda need to see Alien 3 to set up Resurrection.

I wont have time to watch that many movies between now and then

And i really doubt alien romulus needs me to watch a critically panned movie from the 90s
Heineken14 posted...
Prometheus would have been decent as a standalone non-Alien franchise movie. It'd still suffer from some of the dumbest characters in a movie ever but it wouldn't have been as terrible as it was. The only thing Covenant did was make the stupid characters in Prometheus look like fucking geniuses.

3 and Resurrection are both bad too, but are also both much better than Prometheus and Covenant by wide margins.

Also, yes, Romulus is also far and away the 3rd best of the series.

Ah man if theyre even dumber in covenant, this might be rough

Hexenherz posted...
First AvP was pretty cool, second was an awkward train wreck though

I have no desire to watch alien vs predator

UnfairRepresent posted...
It had amazing sets.

That's about where my praise ends >_>

No issues with the visuals here. Movie looks better than 2024 blockbusters like deadpool vs wolverine and furiosa

Archgoat posted...
The original Alien is one the greatest movies ever made (my personal favorite). I like Prometheus quite a bit, I thought it was a really good horror sci-fi movie with some really interesting concepts. I think it gets unfairly criticized because some of the characters act kind of dumb at times (there are some cut scenes that help with that some). Most horror movies have characters doing dumb things. Most people I know seem to like it quite a bit, but hardcore Alien fans like to pick it apart.

Youre not wrong, horror genre does require people to act dumber than other genres. Also Ive never been to space before, who am I to negatively judge the people here
Blue_Popo posted...
Ah man if theyre even dumber in covenant, this might be rough

Just by the very nature of things, something will have to be "the worst" and "the dumbest" but I'm really struggling to think of characters dumber and a scene worse than some of the shit in covenant.
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Blue_Popo posted...
Also Ive never been to space before, who am I to negatively judge the people here

Prometheus and Covenant don't even get to needing space intelligence. It's straight up you are the stupidest person around on EARTH, let alone going up into space.
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tbh I didn't have any interest in AVP either... until I watched it. But I did enjoy most of the movies (minus AVP2 and the one where they got kidnapped).
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Hexenherz posted...
tbh I didn't have any interest in AVP either... until I watched it. But I did enjoy most of the movies (minus AVP2 and the one where they got kidnapped).
Predators? That one was awesome.
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Recently rewatched the Alien series and I find every movie has the cast make stupid decisions, Prometheus wasn't really unique there.
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Recently rewatched the Alien series and I find every movie has the cast make stupid decisions, Prometheus wasn't really unique there.
It was in the sense that they were Earth's greatest scientists.

Alien 1 was truckers. Alien 2 was marines. Alien 3 was prisoners. Alien 4 .. I truly don't know. Prometheus was Earth's best scientists. Covenant was colonizers. Romulus was children of slave miners.

Prometheus stands out like a sore thumb because of all the entries (again I truly forget 4), they were heads and shoulders above the rest in sheer intelligence.
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B18Champ posted...
I think if Prometheus was like 3 hours long it would have been a much better movie. So much content got cut out that we were left with far too many questions. I still enjoyed the movie

It kind of felt too long at times tbh

ClayGuida posted...
Prometheus rocked if you didn't put any thought into it.

Eh no, even then its too slow in the first half

dancing_cactuar posted...
Reminder that for Alien Covenant they thought it was OK to film the character development scenes, but then cut them from the movie and instead just have them uploaded to youtube.

That's some "Palpatine announces he's alive via Fortnite" shit right there.

Damn, lets find out soon i suppose

What happened to ridley scott btw, he seems to have peaked a very long time ago
Scott's still a great director.
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AvP 1 was kinda weird but it had a good setting and some good lore development.

AvP 2 was like a hokey teenage horror movie and I'm pretty sure they just slapped the aliens/predator theme on there as an after thought, it really could have been any monster(s) and it would have been the exact same movie.
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ImAMarvel posted...
AvP1 and 2 are the only two in the series I haven't seen yet

I hear they're not good by any means but the concept is so strong, it makes me want to see it.

Yeah. lol Like it made complete sense that the characters in the other characters would make poor decisions and if you took a look at what they were thinking or feeling internally, it was entirely logically consistent with their characters or understandable. And a lot of the decisions they made weren't even as dumb. But with Prometheus, it's like everybody was insisting on acting as stupidly as possible.
I believe the fucking geologist got lost. And he had a robots routing him pathways and still got lost.

Like what the fuck? As I said, I loved Prometheus in the theater as it played. After talking with friends 15 minutes later, I was like wtf did we just watch?
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I remember enjoying Prometheus and Covenant when I first watched them, but I can't remember much of anything about them so it makes me question myself.

I do remember them doing a bunch of stupid stuff, like breaking obvious quarantine protocols on an alien planet.
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I kinda feel like the whole Aliens universe was made worse by examining "how they came to be". I'd rather they have just been left as a weird scary alien threat that we knew next to nothing about. Their origins just didn't need to be examined.

Yep. The more we learn about them the less interesting they are. Especially because the keys to the franchise have been thrown around between directors and the lore is pretty inconsistent and confusing at this point. There's been too many half explored ideas haphazardly brought up then discarded

They should have stopped after Aliens from an artistic standpoint but hey, $
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thronedfire2 posted...
I remember enjoying Prometheus and Covenant when I first watched them, but I can't remember much of anything about them so it makes me question myself.

Prometheus would be a much better film if there was no xenomorph stuff. Like every attempt to tie it back to the Alien franchise falls flat.

Covenant was bad cause it was trying to tie up all the prometheus shit.
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Also, id recommend watching 3 and Resurrection.

They arent as good as the first 2 but they are still fun watches. Also, i never considered 3 a bad film at all
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